Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

its been reported on our nightly news ,that friends of the passengers are ringing on their mobiles , only to hear them ring out unawersed if the plane crashed in the sea this would not happen,this only adds to the mystery..Will this event ever be solved?6 days and nothing. Why the secrecy?

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Who knows how accurate this is...



Vietnam Navy says Malaysia Airlines plane crashes off Tho Chu Island | Tu

The Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing Saturday crashed off Vietnam’s Tho Chu Island, northwest off the country’s southernmost Cape Ca Mau, the Vietnamese High Command of Navy announced.
According to a High Command of Navy statement, the plane went down at the waters between Vietnam and Malaysia, some 153 nautical miles (300km) off Tho Chu Island in Kien Giang Province.
The Naval Zone 5 is ready for the search and rescue mission.
There were no immediate reports of casualty.
The flight MH370 disappeared at 2:40 am local time (1840 GMT Friday), about two hours after leaving Kuala Lumpur International Airport, according to AFP. It had been due to arrive in Beijing at 6:30 am local time (2230 GMT Friday).
It was carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, from 13 different nationalities, and 12 crew members. China's state television said 158 of the passengers were Chinese.

Out of date.

UPDATED : 03/08/2014 10:16 GMT + 7

How about this though?

The Federal Aviation Administration had warned weeks before the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that Boeing 777s — the model of the missing Malaysia craft — were suffering from serious cracking and corrosion issues.
Specifically, the FAA ordered that hundreds of 777s registered in the United States undergo extra scrutiny to check the fuselage skin beneath the satellite antenna for cracks, NBC News reported.

The checks were necessary to “detect and correct cracking and corrosion in the fuselage skin, which could lead to rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity of the airplane,” the FAA directive stated, NBC reported. That directive was first composed in September and ultimately approved in February to go into effect on April 9, NBC said.

Included in the directive was a pilot finding of a “16-inch crack” in the skin of the fuselage on a 14-year-old craft. The Malaysia plane that’s gone missing was 12 years old, NBC reported.

That’s not to conclude that the Malaysia flight was downed due to cracks in the fuselage. Airline officials said they’d already started conducting the extra maintenance check as part of their regular routine, and that the craft that’s missing was last serviced on Feb. 23, NBC reported.

Originally Posted by beppi712

its been reported on our nightly news ,that friends of the passengers are ringing on their mobiles , only to hear them ring out unawersed if the plane crashed in the sea this would not happen,this only adds to the mystery..Will this event ever be solved?6 days and nothing. Why the secrecy?

oooooooooooh spooky

or:
Don't read too much into ringing phones

Updated: Wednesday March 12, 2014 MYT 6:53:26 PM
Videos of the ringing phones have gone viral on social media, in turn leading to speculations that the jetliner is still safe.

Technology industry analyst and "E-Commerce Times" columnist, Jeff Kagan told CNN that no conclusions could be reached concerning the ringing phones.

"When a cell phone rings, it first connects with the network and attempts to locate the end-user's phone, if it doesn't find the phone after a few minutes, after a few rings, then typically, it disconnects and that's what's happening.

"So, they're hearing ringing and they're assuming it's connecting to their loved ones, but it's not. It's the network sending a signal to the phone letting them know it's looking for them."" he said.

Kagan said the technology meant he couldn't speculate on what ringing phones in this situation could mean.

"Just because you're getting ringing, just because the signs that we see on these cell phones, that's no proof that there's any - that's just the way the networks work." he said.

Bomoh uses 'magic carpet' to find Boeing

Updated: Wednesday March 12, 2014 MYT 6:41:47 PM



SEPANG: Bomoh Ibrahim Mat Zin held a second session of rituals on Wednesday in efforts to help locate the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing plane.

Ibrahim, who calls himself Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP with the title of Datuk Mahaguru, conducted the rituals at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA).

He was accompanied by several assistants who helped in the rituals using "Zam-Zam" water, two coconuts, a "magical" walking stick and carpet.

The session that was held at the Anjung Tinjau of KLIA attracted a crowd of people.

"The purpose of the rituals is to weaken the bad spirits so that the rescuers can find the plane if it indeed had crashed," he told reporters.



Ibrahim said the symbolic rituals have been used for many generations.

He clarified that he was doing it on his own free will despite reports that leaders of the country invited him.

On Monday, Ibrahim used a binoculars made of bamboo and a fish trap hook during his first session of rituals at KLIA to help locate the missing aircraft.

Bernama reported that Ibrahim, who has 50 years of experience as a bomoh, had become popular after offering his service to search for the victims in several major cases such as the Highland Towers tragedy and the Mona Fendy case.

A 25-second video of Ibrahim's second session has gone viral.

Originally Posted by prawnograph

Bomoh uses 'magic carpet' to find Boeing

When all else fails, why not.

Better chance than Malaysian Airlines. The whole thing makes me thing of the Malaysia slogan.
"Malaysia, truely Asia." Hit than one dead on the head.

Chinese ridicule Malaysia’s recruitment of ‘witch doctor’ to track missing plane


PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 12 March, 2014, 5:01pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 12 March, 2014, 8:09pm




Ibrahim Mat Zin, also known as the Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP, used spiritual methods and prayers at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport to help locate the missing plane.

"I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea" said IBRAHIM MAT ZIN

Chinese netizens have mocked reports that the Malaysian government invited a witch doctor to help hunt for the missing state carrier's plane amid increasing criticism of the search and rescue operation.

Malaysian media reported that Ibrahim Mat Zin, a famous “bomoh” [shaman] also known as the Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP, performed a prayer at Kuala Lumpur International Airport on Monday to help locate the missing MH370, allegedly at the invitation of one of the country’s top leaders.

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying.

Cynical Weibo users in China ridiculed the conclusion. “Wow, that is exactly what I think too,” many wrote.

One user who claimed to be Malaysian wrote: “I feel so ashamed as a Malaysian for the first time, not because of any wrongdoing on Malaysia’s part but for having a brainless prime minister.

"Instead of hiring a witch doctor holding two coconuts to be ridiculed, would be better off to do something down-to-earth. …. Stop losing Malaysia’s face!”


Another message that was reposted more than 10,000 times within less than a day read: “In the past few days, Vietnam has cleaned up all the trash on the sea. Whatever Vietnam found, Malaysia shook its head and just said ‘NO NO NO’. Out of distrust of Vietnam, it kindly invited a witch doctor to determine the location.”

Many expressed astonishment that spiritual methods were being considered in the hunt for the plane, as the operation entered its fifth day.

“China deployed 10 satellites, Malaysia deployed a few witch doctors…..is this action art?” said another message.

Jamil Khir Baharom, a minister in the Malaysian Prime Minister’s Department, had earlier said the government welcomed any help in tracing missing flight MH370, including that from bomohs, as long as their methods did not contravene the practices of Islam, Free Malaysia Today reported.

Muslims make up more than half of Malaysia’s population of 22.7 million people. Malaysian Muslims respect spiritual power and bomohs are well respected among believers.

I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea IBRAHIM MAT ZIN
The Raja Bomoh, who has 50 years of experience, rose to fame after offering his services in searching for victims in several major cases, including the Highland Tower tragedy, Kuala Dipang flood and the Mona Fendy murder, according to Free Malaysia Today.

“We use a fish trap hook and a bamboo binocular to search and ask for the victims to be found as soon as possible,” he said. He added that he would go back to the airport to perform another prayer in two days.

It is not unusual in parts of Malaysia for believers and politicians to turn to shamans. More than 200 people in the country were defrauded of a total of more than 23.4 million yuan (HK$30 million) in 2012 in cases involving shamans.




http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1447159/chinese-ridicule-malaysias-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane


one can only gape in amazement at such medieval pseudo religious arsewipe.

Latest blog from Ben Sandilands reporting on todays press conference.

MH370 Day Five yields a new last possible radar fix | Plane Talking

MH370 Day Five yields a new last possible radar fix
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After running more than two and a half hours late the day five media briefing in Kuala Lumpur has come up with a new last possible radar trace for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

It was picked up by defence radar at 2.15 am on Saturday morning, 200 nautical miles or 360 kilometres NW of Penang as an unidentified aircraft at 29,500 feet according to the chief of the Royal Malaysia Air Force, Rodzali Daud.

This is almost precisely where Mr Rodzali earlier today denied saying to the Malaysia Media that this was where defence radar saw the missing airliner after it was tracked flying across the Malaysia peninsula to the northern approach to the main Strait of Malacca.

In other words, in this very chaotic media conference, the air force chief confirmed what he denied he said yesterday, although he did not go into as much detail as was reported in the national media.

This time he said “I am not saying it was MH370.” And he also gave the radar trace a new time, 2.15 am local time, not 2.40 am, which was coincidentally or otherwise the time of last contact with the airliner originally given by Malaysia Airlines before it began a process of changing times and event descriptions on a regular and confusing basis.

It was made clear, through the clutter of the media conference, that this radar sighting inspired the original extension of the search area from the Gulf of Thailand to include the western side of the Malaysia peninsula, and today’s further extension much deeper into the Andaman Sea.

MH370 was a 777-200 service carrying 239 passenger and crew on a regular Kuala Lumpur to Beijing service. To recap, it left KL at 12.40 am, it disappeared as a commercial radar trace at 1.22 am close to the area where such radar visibility to the Malaysia air traffic control system drops off, and was never observed as entering Vietnam controlled air space on a path intended to cross that country to the South China Sea and continue past Hong Kong toward its destination.

There are reports of emergency frequency radio contact with MH370 up to 1.30 am, which haven’t been convincingly ruled out, and which was originally the revised time Malaysia Airlines said it had its last contact with the airliner in the same breath that it said it lost the radar trace at 1.22 am.

It is this constant stumbling over what should be precise and unambiguous markers for the progress of MH370 which have helped undermine the credibility of the airline, which seems to be rewriting the basic information every time it opens its mouth.

This Wednesday night’s delayed media conference was a hair tearer for the technical aviation media because for its brief duration the panel reversed the usual definition of primary and secondary radar, referring to the primary radar used by Malaysia defence as being secondary in purpose, and the secondary commercial radar as performing the primary role. Which is both right sounding but wrong.

The commercial radar uses transponders on airliners to identify them by flight number to air traffic controllers. The defence radars primarily records flying objects without using transponder generated identification for commercial flights.

The acting transport minister and minister of defence Hishammuddin Hussein said that apart from looking further into the Andaman Sea, the search would also maintain a dual focus on the South China Sea between Vietnam and Hong Kong.

The air force chief Rodzali Daud said the agencies from other countries were helping Malaysia reconcile the radar traces picked up by defence radar with those recorded by the commercial air traffic control radars as well as enable a better understanding as to what the military radar saw near Pulau Perak, as he didn’t say it did to the Malaysian media yesterday.

If it wasn’t an airliner looking like an airliner at 29,500 feet in Malaysia airspace that was seen by the defence radar, at a point where it should also have been easily discoverable by normal civilian ATC radar that in itself on a ‘normal’ day would be a puzzle that the authorities would presumably try to resolve without delay.

What is so frustrating in the lack of detail given by the Malaysian authorities is their failure to address such obvious questions. It would have known precisely what by way of scheduled airliners was flying over western Malaysia on Saturday morning. It doesn’t need military radar to answer that question.

These evasions or omissions in the briefing last night make it overwhelmingly likely that the original reports attributed to Rodzali Daud were correct, and that there is a cover up of important detail being attempted by the authorities, with less and less success with every day.

If they are in the Andaman or South China Seas, the traces of those who were on board MH370 are rapidly vanishing, and the dispersal of floating items of wreckage will make the location of the crash site and the black box flight data and voice recorders, which would have sunk, that much more difficult to find.
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Originally Posted by beppi712

its been reported on our nightly news ,that friends of the passengers are ringing on their mobiles , only to hear them ring out unawersed if the plane crashed in the sea this would not happen,this only adds to the mystery..Will this event ever be solved?6 days and nothing. Why the secrecy?

Please look back in this thread, that has been resolved !!!!!!

Wife and kids, and a bunch of other Filipinos, were downstairs watching the coconut juggler - rolling on the floor laughing. Wife is still laughing....fucking Malaysians are making their rep - across Asia and the world.

Originally Posted by aging one

Ibrahim's attempt to locate the plane on Monday using bamboo binoculars and a fish-trap hook was unsuccessful.

Wow, there's a surprise.

Whole hings looking more and more like a Hollywood thriller, not read one theory that sounds plausible.
Malaysians don't seem to know the difference between north, south, east or west, for that matter all their clocks are set at different times.
Military radar sees a plane, then it didn't see a plane, yet commercial radar didn't see any plane.

No one see a plane blow up in fight in an area full of fishing and other boats.
If the craft nose dived into the sea, the black boxes are equipped withe sonar beacons, what none of the ships have passive anti sub listening gear.

Don't know how deep the waters are, but it's not the Atlantic, or Pacific. If they track subs running silent, surely they can hear an active sonar boy from a long ways off. Jim

Since all we seem to have right now is a big fat nothing, time to float whacky theories. My guess is they flew the plane to Somalia and are going to hold it ransom.

Wow. China calls on Malaysia to be more transparent.

Could this all be just an elaborate publicity stunt for the new Liam Neeson film Non-Stop?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2024469/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

It goes to show they're truly SE Asians..

They're rich(er) because of oil.

If this had happened in Thai waters exactly the same spectacle would be unfolding

It probably is in Thai waters, I reckon Pattaya Bay

Originally Posted by Dillinger

It probably is in Thai waters, I reckon Pattaya Bay

With all the usual debris, no one would probably notice. Pattaya Daily News reporting over 200 suicides might ring a few bells though.

My money is still on Islamist madmen:

Was missing flight MH370 jet brought down by a shoe bomber? | Mail Online

Originally Posted by xanax

My money is still on Islamist madmen:

Was missing flight MH370 jet brought down by a shoe bomber? | Mail Online

New twist, if they had a young pilot back then, he could have worked his way up, big planes, international routes.
He would know how to switch off the transponders etc and where the holes in the radar coverage were.
Plot thickens, what could have been the target, India perhaps, not going to find out soon I think.

Is it possible it flew to high and went into space?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by aging one

Ibrahim's attempt to locate the plane on Monday using bamboo binoculars and a fish-trap hook was unsuccessful.

Wow, there's a surprise.

All joking aside, this shows a staggering lack of respect for the families and friends of the missing people. Really, Malaysia, its government, Malaysia Airlines and Islam are looking ridiculous and really thoroughly insulting.

(Reuters) - Malaysia's military has traced what could have been the jetliner missing for almost five days to an area south of the Thai holiday island of Phuket, hundreds of miles from its last known position, the country's air force chief said on Wednesday.

After a series of at times conflicting statements, the latest revelation underlined that authorities remain uncertain even where to look for the plane, and no closer to explaining what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 or the 239 people on board.

The flight disappeared from civilian radar screens shortly before 1:30 a.m. on Saturday, less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur, as it flew northeast across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand bound for Beijing. What happened next is one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation history.

Malaysian air force chief Rodzali Daud told a news conference that an aircraft was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast.

It was not confirmed that the unidentified plane was Flight MH370, but Malaysia was sharing the data with international civilian and military authorities, Rodzali said.

"We are corroborating this," he added. "We are still working with the experts, it's an unidentified plot."

Malaysia Airlines Plane Missing: Jet May Have Strayed Toward Andaman Sea

I find the tweets at the bottom of the link interesting.