Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

RELATIVES OF CHINESE PASSENGERS THREW WATER BOTTLES AT AIRLINE OFFICIALS DURING BRIEFING



12.Mar.2014

Angry relatives threw water bottles at Malaysia Airlines officials after they were unable to offer any more information on the disappearance of flight MH370.

Four members of staff of the airline faced relatives of Chinese relatives on board the flight during a briefing yesterday afternoon.

According to The New York Times, one of the relatives shouted ‘All Malaysians are liars,” before adding “do you know what ‘liars’ means?”

Nearly 100 people crammed themselves into the room for the 20-minute briefing, which journalists were officially barred from, the paper reported.

Meanwhile, more than 100 of the relatives, who have been holed up in a Beijing hotel anxiously awaiting news of their family members, have signed a petition demanding answers and government assistance, The Washington Post has reported.

The airline sent professionals to counsel and support the families over the weekend.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/...uring-briefing

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post 1793, a long but plausible theory.

At this rate the RNLI will be warming up soon.

In this Century an airline should have some idea where its planes are.

^^ there are 3 types of Malaysians, Bumi's ( dead lazy) Chinese Malaysians and Indian Malaysians. The latter 2 are usually industrious.
To a greater degree. Chinese Industrious, Indians resourceful.

and the scope for active imaginations is huge....

one theory circulating is that it was in fact hijacked and was going to be crashed somewhere on mainland malaysia in a 9-11 style attack and that the malaysian? airforce pre-emptively downed the plane.

Originally Posted by taxexile

and the scope for active imaginations is huge....

one theory circulating is that it was in fact hijacked and was going to be crashed somewhere on mainland malaysia in a 9-11 style attack and that the malaysian? airforce pre-emptively downed the plane.

Thar's right up there in whack job theory country.

why?

if a hijacked plane was suspected of being aimed at a populated area/capital city do you not think the military would down it first?

Just when we thought something coming together....

"Malaysia's air force chief has denied an earlier media report that the military last tracked a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner over the Strait of Malacca, far west from where it last made contact with civilian air traffic control when it disappeared four days ago.

"I wish to state that I did not make any such statements," Malaysian air force chief Rodzali Daud said in a statement on Wednesday.


So, back to square one on that one??????

And it would explain why the communications where switched off and why the airplane changed course

Why did none of the passengers make any phone calls to people on the ground ?

thumb-twiddling

Navy may cease hunt for MH370
March 12, 2014
The search by the Royal Thai Navy in Thai-Malaysian waters for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 might end soon if no progress is seen, a senior Navy commander said yesterday.
However, the operation would resume if requested by Malaysian authorities, said Vice Admiral Taratorn Kajitsuwan, chief of the Third Naval Area Command.
He explained that no additional vessels were needed as a close search had already been conducted in the area assigned to the Thai Navy - in the Andaman Sea from Langkawi Island to Pangkor Island off Malaysia's Perak state.
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Vietnam said Wednesday it had suspended its air search for MH370 as it waited for Malaysia to clarify the potential new direction of the multi-national hunt.

"We've decided to temporarily suspend some search and rescue activities, pending information from Malaysia," deputy minister of transport Pham Quy Tieu said, adding a sea search was still ongoing, but on a smaller scale.

.we can only continue to guess...and the scope for active imaginations is huge....

the pilot, already proven to be something of a loose cannon, knew in advance that the stories of him canoodling with passengers in the cockpit were about to be released by the australian press and committed suicide in a blaze of glory, like the egypt air pilot did a couple of years ago when he downed his passenger plane in the atlantic.

Originally Posted by taxexile

.we can only continue to guess...and the scope for active imaginations is huge....

the pilot, already proven to be something of a loose cannon, knew in advance that the stories of him canoodling with passengers in the cockpit were about to be released by the australian press and committed suicide in a blaze of glory, like the egypt air pilot did a couple of years ago when he downed his passenger plane in the atlantic.

Although didnt that story only come to light after the airplane went missing ?
It happened two years ago and the woman only disclosed it after they recognised the pilot from their video .

Originally Posted by Fluke

Why did none of the passengers make any phone calls to people on the ground ?

If you read about the conspiracy theory for 9/11 you find that you can't make a phone call using a mobile phone above a certain height.

Although didnt that story only come to light after the airplane went missing ?
It happened two years ago and the woman only disclosed it after they recognised the pilot from their video .

oh, i thought it happened recently.

Now I'm as perplexed as everybody else as to how, where and why, I'm open to any rational idea at this stage. Admittedly favouring hijack with the passport issue earlier perhaps it's just back to something more mundane like a badly crippled aircraft in some way with a major electrical problem (still wouldn't rule out a bomb which crippled avionics but not their ability to fly). For a long time now people have been saying why on earth are they on the west side of the pennisula (when the first news of search efforts in the Straits of Malacca hit)... I have no reason to disbelieve if these guys thought they could get the aircraft back safely they would try their damned hardest to do so. Yes if there was a raging fire onboard they might have tried WMKN (TGG) but from FL350 there's a heck of a lot of height to lose in a short distance. Same for WMKC (KBR) and anyone who's been there it's not much of an airport in a populated area. WMKP is more logical for a rapid descent to land in a straight line - if their controls were compromised who wants to man-handle a 777 more than necessary except a turn to finals and we've have no idea if they could get the gear out for example so even PEN might only be a second choice. Bear in mind all these airports are closed for the night (PEN maybe not, but very low key) at this time so crashing on the field is a last resort action especially since there appears to be a lack of communication they've no way of announcing their imminent arrival. I wouldn't be surprised if the crew felt KUL was their best, safest option and on top of that (and for the life of me can't fathom why nobody posting here didn't say it earlier) there is a Lost Comms approach procedure for KUL which this crew would have known. If they were down to basic night VFR flying then how best to get to KUL and comply with the procedure... find the west coast, turn south and fly until you pass KL. They could line up for a straight in similar to a KIKAL2 for RWY14L or give ATC a chance to guess what they are doing (if they hadn't already) and head down towards the lights of Malacca to come back for RWY32R approximating a LAPIR2 arrival. Makes logical sense if they were comms crippled so why people think it's stupid for the authorities to be searching the West Coast is a bit rich. If the guys were trying to get back to KUL then it's sad they might have been within reach of KUL and dropped it in the drink for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Although didnt that story only come to light after the airplane went missing ?
It happened two years ago and the woman only disclosed it after they recognised the pilot from their video .

oh, i thought it happened recently.

December 2011 on a short flight from Phuket to KL. Just two attention whores seeing an opportunity to sell their story to the tabloids and get their mugs on trash TV.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Fluke

Why did none of the passengers make any phone calls to people on the ground ?

If you read about the conspiracy theory for 9/11 you find that you can't make a phone call using a mobile phone above a certain height.

That may have been the case ten years ago , but the height is now 35 000 metres and a relative did manage to make a call to the plane , although the exact time of the call hasnt been disclosed

December 2011 on a short flight from Phuket to KL. Just two attention whores seeing an opportunity to sell their story to the tabloids and get their mugs on trash TV

....... and bring to public attention the unprofessional behaviour of the pilot, who btw had been praised to heaven for his dedication by malaysian airlines before this revelation.

stories like that, however tawdry they may seem, involving airline pilots and other professionals who are responsible for the safety of others, are better off in the public domain.

it will lead to a tightening of procedures.

cabin crew of asian airlines, where a culture of deference and face dominate, would never dare to report the captain for behaviour like that. western cabin crew would.

its all about maintaining professional standards.

in asia its hard to do.

^I fully agree the end result is positive. I certainly doubt any thoughts such as that crossed their minds.

as you say, it was their 15 minutes of fame.

I have to concur with FLUKES last post.....a total electrical failure although unlikely is possible, particularly if a cable or equipment fire was involved, and all the factors he raises make sense! I would not like to be attempting a visual let down, with absolute basic instruments and no navigation equipment, on a dark night with the usual Malaysian cloud cover.

Originally Posted by taxexile

December 2011 on a short flight from Phuket to KL. Just two attention whores seeing an opportunity to sell their story to the tabloids and get their mugs on trash TV

....... and bring to public attention the unprofessional behaviour of the pilot, who btw had been praised to heaven for his dedication by malaysian airlines before this revelation.

stories like that, however tawdry they may seem, involving airline pilots and other professionals who are responsible for the safety of others, are better off in the public domain.

it will lead to a tightening of procedures.

cabin crew of asian airlines, where a culture of deference and face dominate, would never dare to report the captain for behaviour like that. western cabin crew would.

its all about maintaining professional standards.

in asia its hard to do.

Although it may be relevant to the flights disappearance .
If the pilots regularly did this , allowed passengers into the cockpit , persons wanting to gain access to the cockpit would choose one of his flights to go on.

Whole thing is just BIZARRE!!