Noam Chomsky

**Bettyboo** · 04-08-2015, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why does this matter anyway? It matters because behavioural psychology, the foundations of modern understanding of the human mind, is intimately linked with Chmoskian Universal Grammar. If there is no universal grammar then much of what we assume about human psychology is based on false premises. Fo me that's a good thing in way - Chomsky has overshadowed the fields of behaviourism and linguistics for so long that he now stifles research (although he himself has said of behaviourism "Whatever 'behaviorism' may have served in the past, it has become nothing more than a set of arbitrary restrictions on 'legitimate' theory construction . . . the kind of intellectual shackles that physical scientists would surely not tolerate and that condemns any intellectual pursuit to insignificance." (Bjork, 1993, p.204))"- if you're not Chomskyan you don't get grants or tenure. For all his apparent openness to new ideas in the field of linguistics he is a jealous God. An upheaval in recursion and universal grammar would breathe new life into these subjects.

The first part, I think gives him far too much credit that he does not deserve.

The second part, which I underlined, seems much closer to the way I'd state it although it seems to be pretty well accepted that his linguistics is just plain wrong. In a similar way that Saussure is plain wrong, but bought many important areas into focus which were developed into real knowledge as a result.

Here's a basic link for some folks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_de_Saussure

**DrB0b** · 05-08-2015, 05:26 AM

blimey, an 8 year old thread suddenly rises from the dead. I was a right smart-ass back then.

**Black Heart** · 05-08-2015, 07:21 AM

[QUOTE=Bettyboo;3072541]

Originally Posted by barbaro

Chomsky seems to be good at arguing as long as it fits into his framework which seems to have two parts: 1) discuss subjects on his terms, according to the frame he has laid out and feels comfortable in, if not then: 2) revert to insults and refuse to discuss the subject.

I've seen #1.

It's even in the interview posted to some degree.

I've not seen #2, although I've not seen nor read all of Chomsky's work.

**bsnub** · 05-08-2015, 08:13 AM

^ Why are you quoting yourself?

**Bettyboo** · 05-08-2015, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

blimey, an 8 year old thread suddenly rises from the dead. I was a right smart-ass back then.

I didn't realize it was that old, sorry. Times change and people move on...

**Black Heart** · 05-08-2015, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Why are you quoting yourself?

I wasn't.

I was quoting Beetyboo, but the quote box did not include his/her name. Bettyboo's name is above the quote box.

**Bettyboo** · 05-08-2015, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Black Heart

his/her name. Bettyboo

I am a cartoon character!

**Black Heart** · 05-08-2015, 03:21 PM

^ Male? Female? In real life?

**Klondyke** · 23-09-2017, 08:12 PM

Am I here right on a Noam Chomsky thread? (seeing what is here above...)
I was redirected here in order not to filth another thread (while speaking about democracy)

The Secret of Noam: A Chomsky Interview
Jeff Jetton | Mar 9, 2011 |

Jeff Jetton: How do you feel about Julian Assange of Wikileaks?

Noam Chomsky: Basically, I think it’s a public service. I mean, why should – if you believe in democracy, why shouldn’t you know what the government is doing?

Jeff Jetton: So you don’t think the United States will let democracy flourish?

Noam Chomsky: They don’t want democracy here, why would they want it in the Middle East? In fact, what’s going on in – you mentioned Wisconsin and that’s quite appropriate. The last thirty years have been a major assault against democracy here, and the governor of Wisconsin is trying to carry it forward. Finally there’s some resistance, but plainly elites here don’t want democracy. And why should they? Democracy is always harmful to elite interests. Almost by definition. In the Middle East it’s dramatic because of the attitudes of the population.

Read more
https://brightestyoungthings.com/art...msky-interview

The Secret of Noam: A Chomsky Interview
Mar 9, 2011 |

**TuskegeeBen** · 18-12-2018, 03:09 PM

Thanks, ...Happy Holidays

**foobar** · 18-12-2018, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Chomsky seems to be good at arguing as long as it fits into his framework, if not then he reverts to insults and refuse to discuss the subject.

Can you link some examples of Chomsky dishing out insults and refusing to discuss the subject matter?

**cyrille** · 18-12-2018, 05:08 PM

**TuskegeeBen** · 18-12-2018, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by foobar

Can you link some examples of Chomsky dishing out insults and refusing to discuss the subject matter?

No doubt,...Betty has definitely confused Noam Chomsky,...with certain personality-type posters on TD.

**SKkin** · 25-12-2018, 05:00 AM

Here's a variety of links about Chomsky and the subject of 9/11...

Noam Chomsky is in denial about 9/11
By Mark H Gaffney

Noam Chomsky: Controlled Asset of the New World Order
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoamAsset

Analysis of the sophistry of Noam Chomsky on 9/11
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/11/...homsky-on-911/

Noam Chomsky and The War on Straight Answers
https://politicalfilm.wordpress.com/...aight-answers/

9/11 and the Zionist Question: Is Noam Chomsky a Disinfo Agent for Israel? - Part 7

https://ahtribune.com/opinion/1111-n...y-zionism.html

Chomsky on 9/11 and JFK - "Who cares"

longer version["brilliant comment" ?? judge for yourselves...]:

Thread: Noam Chomsky

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