History coaching, WW2

**harrybarracuda** · 24-12-2013, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by barbaro

Just want to say thank you for this thread, Rainfall.

I think that since WW2 the blame has soley been put on Hitler and Germany and it's more complicated than that.

Germany was a major agressor that lead to the start of WWII, but the other had a strong hand in it also.

Interesting thread that has caused me to want to learn more.

There is nothing wrong with researching all of the facts behind the history of the world wars, which are closely interlinked.

What is stupid is attempting to rewrite it to suit your own agenda.

**Begbie** · 24-12-2013, 08:52 PM

I'm speculating that this is an English Noodles troll. No real person could be this dishonest.

**Rural Surin** · 24-12-2013, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What is stupid is attempting to rewrite it to suit your own agenda.

Exactly...
Yet, this is how conventional/surface history is promoted and suggested. Over and again.....without exploring all facets, facts, perspectives, and theories.

Certainly, from scholarship and academia [establishment], less from everyday common understanding.

**barbaro** · 24-12-2013, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by barbaro

Just want to say thank you for this thread, Rainfall.

I think that since WW2 the blame has soley been put on Hitler and Germany and it's more complicated than that.

Germany was a major agressor that lead to the start of WWII, but the other had a strong hand in it also.

Interesting thread that has caused me to want to learn more.

There is nothing wrong with researching all of the facts behind the history of the world wars, which are closely interlinked.

What is stupid is attempting to rewrite it to suit your own agenda.

And who re-wrote it to suit their own agenda?

**barbaro** · 24-12-2013, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What is stupid is attempting to rewrite it to suit your own agenda.

Exactly...
Yet, this is how conventional/surface history is promoted and suggested. Over and again.....without exploring all facets, facts, perspectives, and theories.

Certainly, from scholarship and academia [establishment], less from everyday common understanding.

And I ask, who....are you referring to?

**Rainfall** · 24-12-2013, 11:13 PM

Sincere thanks for the valuable input of the posters before Barbaro, much appreciated. It's late, so only one quote for the day's conclusion,

"At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror. I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war. But we, (England), declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the ‘Americans’ (Jews) around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler’s pleading, not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label."

The British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, March 16/1984.

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