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    Roll over you did already, you just don't know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Roll over you did already, you just don't know yet.
    Care to elaborate on that?
    btw, had a look at the video yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    btw, had a look at the video yet
    I did, as usual your links didn't address the issue at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.
    oh yeah, try flying a plan at that speed 2m above the ground to hit a target. Impossible. This was a precise hit that a plane couldn't achieve, so take the blue pill and wake up from your dreams Neo.
    Better you watch this video and get back to us?

    That video is of a tiny jet hitting a tiny wall in a very controlled environment .

    You can't seem to accept that you were bullshitted by the Bush team and you swallowed it and asked for seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    btw, had a look at the video yet
    I did, as usual your links didn't address the issue at hand.
    B.S.
    Issue at hand is y'all's continued delusional fantasy that there was some kind of conspiracy. That Khon Kaen Krippler getting to your brain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    'Brought the mighty USA to its knees'? Oh, come on, what are you talking about? The only reason the USA reacted like it did simply reveals the depth of paranoia that exists in that country, and xenophobia. You talk like it's a game. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who've been killed as a direct result of the US military involvement in those countries.
    Well, it's still "Let's Roll" not Roll Over...
    In fact it is "Let's Roll Over & Get Fcuked By Corporate America and Their Agenda"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Issue at hand is y'all's continued delusional fantasy that there was some kind of conspiracy.
    Of course there was.
    pulling all the cameras from the area immediately after the missile hit is proof enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    btw, had a look at the video yet
    I did, as usual your links didn't address the issue at hand.
    pathetic and sad attempt at a spin by Boon Mee , wonder how long he looked for that piece of crap to NOT prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    pulling all the cameras from the area immediately after the missile hit is proof enough for me
    exactly, if they have nothing to hide, why haven't they release the FULL footage of the security camera

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Issue at hand is y'all's continued delusional fantasy that there was some kind of conspiracy.
    Of course there was.
    pulling all the cameras from the area immediately after the missile hit is proof enough for me.
    Good...you'll sleep easy in your bed tonight knowing the 'truth'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
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    Issue at hand is y'all's continued delusional fantasy that there was some kind of conspiracy.
    Of course there was.
    pulling all the cameras from the area immediately after the missile hit is proof enough for me.
    Yeah , lets it was only the focking PENTAGON - there was only one security camera that day ?

    That ONLY captured some suckass footage that does show nothing that looks like a jumbo Jet hitting the building.

    This was a horrible case of slight at hand pulled off by a birthday party magician and the masses stood back at watched like an episode of the Simpson's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.
    oh yeah, try flying a plan at that speed 2m above the ground to hit a target. Impossible. This was a precise hit that a plane couldn't achieve, so take the blue pill and wake up from your dreams Neo.
    We all know Butters is a provocateur. The first step is to generate doubt and the next step is to say Communism never got a fair chance.

    I'm with Wallace on this. Why can't people believe the chance of the plane flying in as it did? They're willing to accept even odder happenings to explain conspiracies.

    keda, greenies are on the way.


    To the OP: no the attack on the Pentagon was not justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    pulling all the cameras from the area immediately after the missile hit is proof enough for me
    exactly, if they have nothing to hide, why haven't they release the FULL footage of the security camera
    And why did the FBI seize the security tapes from a neighbouring gas station? They have never been released.
    Wht was no trace of two eleven ton engines found at the Pentagon? And no impact holes or damage? A turbine fan was shown as evidence- it did not come from a B737, too small!
    Why did the US government quash any investigation into the startling options trading activity in the lead up to 911, and seize and classify information?

    Too many questions here. I don't know how far this conspiracy thing might go, but something is being covered up imo.

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    if they lied for the Pentagon, why stop there ? they only got caught on the Iraq WMD lies, and it's a shame we will never know the truth about 911 and the motivations behind it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    if they lied for the Pentagon, why stop there ? they only got caught on the Iraq WMD lies, and it's a shame we will never know the truth about 911 and the motivations behind it
    I agree.

    If there is anything to be known.

    But I am very skeptical that 19 guys could pull this off.

    I have always believed in: L.I.H.O.P.

    Let It Happen On Purpose.


    The PNAC mission statement notes something similar to Pearl Harbour happening to promote the PNAC agenda.

    Not saying it was a conspiracy, but it was the perfect opportunity for the PNAC to move ahead with their agenda. Bush stacked DoD, State, UN, and his administration with PNAC members.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Is the Pentagon a military target? Did the WTC towers contain Federal offices?
    Not only military and economic symbols, but important strategic targets.

    To expand on your questions: Are powerstations and water reservoirs military targets? Was Dresden a military target, or Nagasaki? Were Laotian forests and Vietnamese villages military targets? Are politicians' and leaders' homes military targets?

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    For all you in the Lunatic Brigade (and you do know who you are) remember, NOTHING that happened on September 11th needs any more explanation than what was obvious from the second impact...namely, that Islamic terrorists hijaked four American aircraft and flew three of them into their targets. To try to convince folks of missile attacks and rigged explosives and mystery jets is nothing more than an intentional assault on reason and common sense, one that damns the innocent and protects those mass murderers with our blood on their hands. There are none so blind than those who will not see...
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    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    It would seem to me the reasonable thing to do then to squash these scurrilous rumours once and for all, by-
    1- releasing the footage from the gas station next to the Pentagon.
    2- releasing the records of the options trading in the two or three days before 911.

    I don't subscribe to the full conspiracy theory thing, but I do suspect certain people, including Mossad, knew what was going to happen and financially benefited from it.
    And there are serious, credible questions about what really happened at the Pentagon.

    Easily squashed though- again, why is the Government withholding information?

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    Have you ever seen a controlled demolition? Shows like this are all over The Discovery Channel. Do people realize how all of the insulation and paneling must be stripped away from the support beams? Do they not understand how these beams must be cut open and the explosives placed with great care? Have they not any idea of the amount of time this takes – months – and the forest of wires that runs through the structure to the detonating mechanism? Have they given no thought – none? – to what an enormous job this is, and how much work goes into getting these explosives exactly where they need to be?

    Apparently not. They just figure someone leaves a suitcase somewhere, I guess.

    Anyone who has ever – ever – seen what is required to bring down a building of that size knows that the site is a disaster area of det cord, pulled paneling, and huge bundles of explosives taped to the structural columns across many floors.

    Has no one considered that this all had to be started after everyone went home on Monday night and before people reported for work the next day? On multiple floors of two of the busiest public spaces in the world? No one noticed this on Tuesday morning? Hey Jim, what do you suppose that huge bundle of plastic explosives is doing there where the water cooler used to be? And where do those wires go?

    Well, must be some logical explanation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Too bad they missed the White House. Now that would have been funny.

    The WTC was definitely spectacular. A job well done.
    Well, folks who express opinions like that are frankly paranoid and delusional in that you expresses delight in the death of thousands. People with that degree of paranoia are more often found on psychiatric wards - not posting on TD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Too bad they missed the White House. Now that would have been funny.

    The WTC was definitely spectacular. A job well done.
    Well, folks who express opinions like that are frankly paranoid and delusional in that you expresses delight in the death of thousands. People with that degree of paranoia are more often found on psychiatric wards - not posting on TD...
    I have to agree with booner here- there were Arabs, Euro's & Aussies in those buildings too y'know. They were there to earn a buck, not suppress the masses.
    Murder is murder, and this was a particularly vile act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Have you ever seen a controlled demolition?
    WTC building 7 was a very good example.
    Last edited by ChiangMai noon; 15-04-2007 at 08:11 AM.

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    ^
    Well, some people will believe anything if they want to believe it hard enough...

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    Folks, what is your opinion on the documentary "Loose Change?"

    I downloaded part of it and watched about 40 minutes.

    Yes, there were some errors in the film, but some very intrigueing points as well.

    1. Who's seen it?

    2. What do you think as a whole?

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    yeah, Boon how do you explain WTC 7 ? it didn't take month of preparation to do that one ? they took it down in less than a few hours in a controlled demolition ? see your story doesn't even hold up. As usual, I might add.

    You are the guy who still believe that Iraq has WMD hidding somewhere, maybe it be Iraq or Iran or even Syria

    Now tell me Boon who is the dillusional one ?

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