Well, the salient point here is the "Thug" culture that infests these inner cities. Take the hoodlum out of the 'hood' with no access to a gun and you get harmony...:)
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Well, the salient point here is the "Thug" culture that infests these inner cities. Take the hoodlum out of the 'hood' with no access to a gun and you get harmony...:)
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Originally Posted by Boon Mee
hallelujah .
What you have just written has been the liberal suggestion to solve inner city crime problems for decades now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Well, so long as they continue to receive food stamps, a free phone etc & remaining out of work the cycle will go on forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
You think cutting people off food stamps would lead to a reduction in violence? What about all the vets who will be left watching their families starve because they can't put food on the table any longer? Are they supposed to take that lying down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
The subsidized phone was a Reagan initiative expanded under Bush, as I have pointed out to you before. Cancel that and you make it even harder for the downtrodden to find a job and reinforce the very cycle that you rail against.
Cut farm subsidies to big agro, let Medicare Part D negotiate for the same rates that regular people get and eliminate tax breaks for oil companies and you might start to make a difference.
Stopping buying tanks that the military doesn't want and extra engines for planes that can't fly yet might also help.
If they had to get off their asses and go to work in order to put food on the table, they would have as much time to 'gangbang' with their posse. Deny Food Stamps to those who can work and continue to help the Vets who have served their country with pride as opposed to the welfare chilizers...Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
New book looks at Hitler’s use of gun control to disarm Jews
Stephen Halbrook’s new book could earn him an interesting evening on Piers Morgan’s CNN show.
In his recently released “Gun Control in the Third Reich: Disarming the Jews and ‘Enemies of the State‘,” the famed Second Amendment attorney attempts to take a scholarly look at gun control in Germany before-and-after Hitler took power. But Halbrook doesn’t shy away from pointing out what he sees as parallels, if not comparisons, between what happened then with what is happening in America now.
“Actually, there are parallels between the firearm bans and registration requirements enacted by the Weimar Republic and those proposed by President Obama,” Halbrook, a Research Fellow at the Independent Institute, told The Daily Caller when asked what he would say to those who will argue making such a comparison sounds a bit hysterical. ”Only law-abiding persons obeyed those laws. Weimar authorities warned that the lists of gun owners must not fall into the hands of ‘radical elements.’ The lists fell right into the hands of the Nazis when they assumed power. Gun owner data can be misused by the government today just as it did in the IRS scandal, and it can be hacked for nefarious purposes.”
New book looks at Hitler's use of gun control to disarm Jews | The Daily Caller
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16 American cities foreign governments warn their citizens about.
Aren't these all liberal bastions of gun free zones and other liberal kumbayah nonsense? I mean, these aren't exactly hotbeds of Tea Partiers and such right?
I thought this was a pretty good review of the book....Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Marvin (Palm Desert, CA)'s review of Gun Control in the Third Reich: Disarming the Jews and "Enemies of the State"
Fun with numbers
Americans overwhelmingly prefer firearms to ObamacareDuring the same time period that only 106,185 people signed up to purchase Obamacare, a total of 1,687,599 background checks for firearm purchases went through the NICS system, according to the FBI."What a difference 90 degrees makes"
Anti-gun groups thrive on dishonesty, Exhibit 3,256,918:
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Here is an illegal stop and many other violation by the LEO.
Complete Dashcam Video of Illegal Arrest of Army Master Sergeant CJ Grisham - YouTube
The Glock Ad You'll Never See On TV
Glock’s Fantastic Pro-Gun Commercial Is Sure To Offend A Liberal, And Make Conservatives Laugh Out Loud.
If you are a thief and try to break into someone else’s home you better make sure they are not packing heat. Try a Liberal’s house, you may have better luck.
Glock’s pro-gun commercial is sure to offend a Liberal, and make all Conservatives laugh out loud.
Watch what happens when this would be burglar tries to mess with the wrong girl!
Gunny & Glock - Wrong Girl - Extended Version - YouTube
They Should All Be Carrying Pitchforks -
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‘Looks Like Weimar Germany’: The Viral Photo Out of Connecticut That’s Giving Some Gun Owners Chills.
Wierdos, why do they need high capacity rifles with more than 10 round magazines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
What did you think of the video in Post #687? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KoojoWierdos, why do they need high capacity rifles with more than 10 round magazines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
When Seconds Count. The Police Are Only Minutes Away!
Right...
Dallas Store Manager Shoots at 5 Armed Robbers, Police Arrive 74 Minutes Later.
*chirping crickets* regarding post #687? :mid:
we're about to start the 6th year of obama's presidency......whatever happened to those gun and ammo seizures the right wing fever swamps promised were coming?
he's just waiting for his 7th and 8th year to begin the "great confiscation", right?
:rolleyes:
rubes.
Some recent headlines, and who's behind the drive for gun control?
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It's not about GUN control specifically but Control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainfall
You see, Libs want to tell you how to run your life...:mid:
The yanks should arm "all" Blacks and Latinos with guns.
That will protect the good ole USA...
Blacks and Latins with anything is dangerous.
They need to learn how to read and write first. :sssh:
i don't normally C&P entire articles, but this one is behind the NYT pay wall.
it offers a peek inside the extremes of the gun nut culture.
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Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns
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Dick Metcalf in Barry, Ill. He said in a column that “all constitutional rights are regulated,” alarming the gun community.
By RAVI SOMAIYA
Published: January 4, 2014
BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.
In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”
The backlash was swift, and fierce. Readers threatened to cancel their subscriptions. Death threats poured in by email. His television program was pulled from the air.
Just days after the column appeared, Mr. Metcalf said, his editor called to tell him that two major gun manufacturers had said “in no uncertain terms” that they could no longer do business with InterMedia Outdoors, the company that publishes Guns & Ammo and co-produces his TV show, if he continued to work there. He was let go immediately.
“I’ve been vanished, disappeared,” Mr. Metcalf, 67, said in an interview last month on his gun range here, about 100 miles north of St. Louis, surrounded by snow-blanketed fields and towering grain elevators. “Now you see him. Now you don’t.”
He is unsure of his next move, but fears he has become a pariah in the gun industry, to which, he said, he has devoted nearly his entire adult life.
His experience sheds light on the close-knit world of gun journalism, where editors and reporters say there is little room for nuance in the debate over gun laws. Moderate voices that might broaden the discussion from within are silenced. When writers stray from the party line promoting an absolutist view of an unfettered right to bear arms, their publications — often under pressure from advertisers — excommunicate them.
“We are locked in a struggle with powerful forces in this country who will do anything to destroy the Second Amendment,” said Richard Venola, a former editor of Guns & Ammo. “The time for ceding some rational points is gone.”
There have been other cases like Mr. Metcalf’s. In 2012, Jerry Tsai, the editor of Recoil magazine, wrote that the Heckler & Koch MP7A1 gun, designed for law enforcement, was “unavailable to civilians and for good reason.” He was pressured to step down, and despite apologizing, has not written since. In 2007, Jim Zumbo, by then the author of 23 hunting books, wrote a blog post for Outdoor Life’s website suggesting that military-style rifles were “terrorist” weapons, best avoided by hunters. His writing, television and endorsement deals were quickly put on hiatus.
Garry James, a senior editor at Guns & Ammo, said in a phone interview several weeks ago that its readers were the magazine’s main concern and its editorial independence was not at risk. But, he added, “advertisers obviously always have power, and you always feel some pressure.” He declined to discuss Mr. Metcalf’s matter specifically, and the company did not respond to further phone calls and emails seeking comment on other aspects of the operation.
Mr. Metcalf said he was told that advertisers feared customers would boycott their products if they continued to advertise on TV shows and magazines featuring his work.
Two major advertisers with InterMedia are the gun companies Ruger and the Remington Arms Company. Ruger’s general counsel, Kevin B. Reid Sr., said in an email that it did have a conference call with InterMedia to discuss the column, but that it was informed “that the decision had already been made to part ways with Mr. Metcalf.” He denied Ruger pressured InterMedia to fire Mr. Metcalf.
A spokesman for Remington did not respond to messages seeking comment.
Editors of gun magazines are unapologetic in acknowledging that their content caters to the gun enthusiasts who believe their rights are under constant threat, and to the firearms companies that account for much of their revenue. At some magazines, said Jan Libourel, a former editor of both Guns & Ammo Handguns and Gun World magazines, “the editors only want editorial content for some key advertisers.”
Reporters and editors say that reviews are often written in close consultation with manufacturers. If a gun is judged to be of poor quality, magazines will quietly send it back for improvements rather than writing a negative review. The system is broadly accepted at these publications, gun writers say.
Mr. Venola, the former Guns & Ammo editor, described the relationship between the magazine’s editors and the gun makers as a necessarily cozy one. “You have to be in cahoots with the manufacturer, in order to make the publication appeal to the readership,” he said. “Say you write about boats. At some point you’re going to end up on the sun deck of a boat, downing sundowners after testing one, with the guy who makes it. It’s just how it happens.”
(Mr. Venola had murder charges against him dismissed in Arizona last year. He said he was defending himself after fatally shooting a neighbor during an argument.)
Mr. Metcalf said he invited a reporter to his home because he despairs that the debate over gun policy in America is so bitterly polarized and dominated by extreme voices. He says he is still contemplating how a self-described “Second Amendment fundamentalist” who keeps a .38 snub-nose Smith & Wesson revolver within easy reach has been ostracized from his community.
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” he said. “People think it means giving up your principles.”
A trim, avuncular man, Mr. Metcalf lives on a farm that has been in his family since 1837. The heads of 23 giant bucks line the walls of his shooting club. Plump wild turkeys gather by the dozen nearby.
Mr. Metcalf began his journalism career with a column in Shooting Times, a more technical gun publication, explaining the patchwork of gun laws across America to readers, while teaching at Cornell. Since then, he said, he has written for dozens of gun magazines within the group now owned by InterMedia, culminating with the back-page column in Guns & Ammo.
In the column that led to his dismissal, he said that too many gun owners believed that the constitution prohibits any regulation of firearms. He noted that all rights are regulated, like freedom of speech. “You cannot falsely and deliberately shout, ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater,” he wrote.
“The question is, when does regulation become infringement?” he continued. Mr. Metcalf ended the column arguing that requiring 16 hours of training to qualify for a concealed carry license was not an infringement.
Though his editors had approved the column before it went to press, they reversed course after publication. Jim Bequette, editor of Guns & Ammo, issued an apology to the magazine’s roughly 400,000 readers. He told them Mr. Metcalf had been dismissed, and that he, Mr. Bequette, would move forward plans to hand the editorship on to his successor.
Acknowledging that some readers were “hopping mad,” he wrote: “Let me be clear: Our commitment to the Second Amendment is unwavering.”
Mr. Metcalf says his only regret about the column is that it was too short. “Some topics you should never try and discuss too briefly because they can’t be dealt with like that,” he said.
He knows that the odds of returning seamlessly to his old career are slim. When people ask him what’s next, he shows them a photograph taken shortly after InterMedia dismissed him. In it, he holds a gun, and a sign that reads “Will Hunt For Food.”
Not going to happen. Nor is any significant change to the status quo of current gun control laws. Obama and the rest of the gun control advocates are good at expressing regret and condolences to the families of shooting victims but all have failed to do a damn thing to reduce the number of deaths. They all get a big "F-" and a Unsat for effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
The whole issue has become nothing more than an exercise in political rhetoric by both sides of the issue.
This thread will continue Ad nauseam.
Because you have a political system hamstrung by Corporate lobbying, and their Political whores. A do nothing government, as intended. The people do not even factor, until election season. The rest of the time, they are strictly at the back of the queue.
Norton and Sabang are both spot-on.
"Gun Control" is just another "all talk and no action" issue.