2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

**RPETER65** · 24-06-2015, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Why did you leave out dividing the US to an unprecedented level not seen since the civil war.

No RPeter, not the truth at all. Just the 'truth' for a minority of aging white men that cannot get over the fact that a half-nigga was elected President of the USA, twice consecutively. You sir, are a bigot.

You have no idea what I am as I have stated in previous posts I could care less about skin color, some of my best friends over the years have been black people, native Americans, and Hispanics. You talk about conservatives having a habit of lying and you come out with a blatant lye. My problem with Obama is his policies, and disrespect for the constitution.

**RPETER65** · 24-06-2015, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes but when you can only choose from one of two, it shouldn't be that fucking difficult.

I mean who in their right minds would vote for Mitt the Twit or the coffin dodger?

Oh.....

People who had the foresight to see the damage Obama would do to The US.

The damage was already done before Obama even got elected.

Bush wrecked the economy.

Bush started two needless wars and destabilised the Middle East, creating ISIS in the process.

That's why it's incredible that people were dumb enough to want vote for more of the same Republican idiocy and greed.

Do you even study history?

Or do you just get your 'facts' off Fox News like Booners?

Why did you leave out dividing the US to an unprecedented level not seen since the civil war. Probably causing more to the US than all the things you listed.

Where do you get this shit? You've had a couple of riots in cities where white cops have killed blacks.

They're nothing on the '92 riots (under Bush Sr. - 53 dead). Or the '65 riots for that matter (Johnson - 34 dead, although you could argue racial tension in '65 was nearing its peak).

If there is any racial divide now, it's being stoked up by racist republicans who don't like a black man in the whitehouse, and Fox squealing every day that the police killing unarmed or fleeing blacks "didn't have any choice" or "were innocent". They took a few days off after Charleston, probably hiding in embarrassment, but they started afresh today with a fucking frenzy.

And if you think localised disturbances did more damage to the US than Bush's screw up (millions of Americans lost their homes and many more their jobs) or the wars (cost $2 Trillion and 8,300 US servicemen and womens' lives - ignoring the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani dead), then you are even more deluded than I thought possible.

Try again.

You repeatedly state that conservatives don't like Obama as president because of his black heritage, show me the proof. Maybe you should open yourself to the fact that conservatives don't like the policies Obama has brought to the Oval Office. Then what about the educated blacks who don't like Obama in the the White House, oh how silly of me of course they are all Uncle Toms.

**sabang** · 24-06-2015, 10:55 PM

Of course you were alive and kicking in the days of LBJ, the 'Great society' and the Civil Rights act RPETRI. I wonder what you were saying then?

**harrybarracuda** · 24-06-2015, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

In response to post #1947 and 'Bush wrecked the economy' statement - OK, Dubya didn't have a good record going into his second term but in terms of who is responsible for the lousy economy today?

You got only one person and that's the failed community agitator to blame.

"Didn't have a good record"?

Is that how you describe someone who created the worst global financial crisis since the Great Depression?

What do you call Hitler? A "cheeky rascal having a bit of a laugh"?

Charles Manson? A "fun loving hippie"?

You seem to ignore the fact that democrats were implicit in creating the conditions which led up to the housing collapse.

One word: ENRON

**harrybarracuda** · 24-06-2015, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You repeatedly state that conservatives don't like Obama as president because of his black heritage, show me the proof. Maybe you should open yourself to the fact that conservatives don't like the policies Obama has brought to the Oval Office. Then what about the educated blacks who don't like Obama in the the White House, oh how silly of me of course they are all Uncle Toms.

Before I answer that, do you accept that your attempt claim that Obama is responsible for "dividing the US to an unprecedented level not seen since the civil war" is in fact total bollocks?

**RPETER65** · 25-06-2015, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Of course you were alive and kicking in the days of LBJ, the 'Great society' and the Civil Rights act RPETRI. I wonder what you were saying then?

What does that have to do with today, we are talking about Obama not LBJ, but to answer your question, I have never been prejudice period, never.

**RPETER65** · 25-06-2015, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You repeatedly state that conservatives don't like Obama as president because of his black heritage, show me the proof. Maybe you should open yourself to the fact that conservatives don't like the policies Obama has brought to the Oval Office. Then what about the educated blacks who don't like Obama in the the White House, oh how silly of me of course they are all Uncle Toms.

Before I answer that, do you accept that your attempt claim that Obama is responsible for "dividing the US to an unprecedented level not seen since the civil war" is in fact total bollocks?

Absolutely not.

**harrybarracuda** · 25-06-2015, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You repeatedly state that conservatives don't like Obama as president because of his black heritage, show me the proof. Maybe you should open yourself to the fact that conservatives don't like the policies Obama has brought to the Oval Office. Then what about the educated blacks who don't like Obama in the the White House, oh how silly of me of course they are all Uncle Toms.

Before I answer that, do you accept that your attempt claim that Obama is responsible for "dividing the US to an unprecedented level not seen since the civil war" is in fact total bollocks?

Absolutely not.

Even in the face of facts.

Well there's fuck all point debating the point with you, you don't have a clue.

**bsnub** · 25-06-2015, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Snubble reds me for posting some facts about hitlery "ohhhh you evil old granny" cliiton.

I redded you because you are a right wing big oil shill.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well there's fuck all point debating the point with you, you don't have a clue.

No there really isnt. He is a lemming. Brainwashed even worse than the boontard..

**RPETER65** · 25-06-2015, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

In response to post #1947 and 'Bush wrecked the economy' statement - OK, Dubya didn't have a good record going into his second term but in terms of who is responsible for the lousy economy today?

You got only one person and that's the failed community agitator to blame.

"Didn't have a good record"?

Is that how you describe someone who created the worst global financial crisis since the Great Depression?

What do you call Hitler? A "cheeky rascal having a bit of a laugh"?

Charles Manson? A "fun loving hippie"?

You seem to ignore the fact that democrats were implicit in creating the conditions which led up to the housing collapse.

One word: ENRON

No comment on your heroes the democrats in leading to the housing collapse?

**bobo746** · 25-06-2015, 06:02 AM

I'm not into yank politics but look at the list of losers who would vote for this party.No wonder the place has gone to the dogs.

Nixon
Ford
Regan
Bush
Bush

**S Landreth** · 25-06-2015, 06:11 AM

I think this post/news about Mrs. Clinton should be rubbed in a bit more. I would also like to add and highlight a couple things,……..

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oooooh this will get Booners blubbing!

Ex-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has a commanding advantage for the Democratic presidential nomination and a lead of eight to 13 points over her most likely Republican foes, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

“Democratic socialist” challenger, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, has been drawing big crowds — 5,500 in Denver over the weekend — but trails Clinton by a 75-15 percent margin among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters.

In general election matchups, Clinton has a 48-40 percent lead over Jeb Bush, a 50-40 percent lead over Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, and a 51-37 percent advantage over Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Bush, Walker and Rubio lead the Republican field in the poll.

The survey was conducted June 14-18, shortly after the formal kickoff of Clinton’s campaign and spanning the formal launch of Bush’s bid for the White House.

Clinton has come under fire on fronts ranging from preferring Manhattan digs to her Brooklyn headquarters, to her family’s luxury vacation rentals in the Hamptons on Long Island and her vague position on proposed Pacific and Atlantic free trade agreements.

She is also a behind-closed-doors campaigner who was briefly in Seattle on Saturday for a private $2,700 a person fundraiser.

The only public event Clinton has held here over the last seven years was a 2014 book signing, followed by a Clinton Foundation fundraiser on the Eastside. The price of a seat at the head table was a whopping $50,000.

The criticism isn’t hitting home, according to the NBC/WSJ findings.

“Hillary Clinton continues to lap the field on the Democratic side,” said veteran Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who conducted the survey along with Republican opinion expert Bill McInturff.

Clinton occupies the “strongest and most advantageous position” of any non-incumbent seeking his or her party’s nomination of any candidate he has ever seen, McInturff told NBC News.

A whopping 92 percent of Democratic voters say they could support Clinton, a figure that has climbed from 86 percent in March. Despite that level of support, however, 62 percent of Democrats said they want a contested race for their party’s nomination.

Bush is doing much better among the Republicans in recent months. Seventy-five percent of the Republican voters polled said they could support the former Florida governor, up from 49 percent in March.

The Republican field is still splintered. Bush was on top in the poll with 22 percent, followed by Walker at 17 percent. (Walker has been running ahead in Iowa caucus polls.) Rubio was third with 14 percent, followed by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 11 percent.

The pecking order is important, because Fox News says it will allow only 10 GOP candidates on stage when the right-wing channel hosts the first Republican debate later this summer. It will consult polls in making its pick.

The other six who would qualify, according to NBC/WSJ figures, are ex-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (9 percent), Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky (7 percent), ex-Texas Gov. Rick Perry (5 percent), Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (4 percent), New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (4 percent) and former business executive Carly Fiorino (2 percent).

Republic strategists have been extremely nervous at the possible presence of billionaire real estate mogul Donald Trump on stage. Trump announced last week, with scalding remarks about immigrants as well as his GOP opponents.

He gets exactly 1 percent in the NBC/WSJ poll, the same as Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina.

Ex-Sen. Rick Santorum, who won primaries and caucuses in 2012, does not even reach one percent.

President Obama had an unchanged 48 percent job approval rating in the survey, which was conducted June 14-18, with interviews of 1,000 voters (400 by cell phone) and has a margin of error of plus/minus 3.1 percent.

Hillary Clinton is the candidate to beat in 2016: NBC/Wall Street Journal poll - Strange Bedfellows ? Politics News

538 rates the NBC/Wall Street polls at A-, so we know they are accurate numbers.

and just because I like the color blue

It isn’t too early. It isn’t wide open. This election is already settled, because the rethugs haven’t anything to offer.

I wonder why Mrs. Clinton released the video below, today?

The pecking order is important, because Fox News says it will allow only 10 GOP candidates on stage when the right-wing channel hosts the first Republican debate later this summer. It will consult polls in making its pick.

The other six who would qualify, according to NBC/WSJ figures, are ex-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (9 percent), Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky (7 percent), ex-Texas Gov. Rick Perry (5 percent), Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (4 percent), New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (4 percent) and former business executive Carly Fiorina (2 percent).

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (4 percent)

Ted Cruz at 4%

Carly Fiorina (2 percent)

I think I saw where Fiorina was closer to 1.8%. Maybe they’re just rounding up

__________

But don’t get all depressed teabaggers, there’s still hope if you want to believe a FOX News poll.

**Storekeeper** · 26-06-2015, 12:40 PM

Below stolen from Webb's Facebook page. He's taken a stance on the Confederate Flag:

"An excerpt from a response sent by Senator Webb to a letter from an African American resident of Richmond received yesterday: - Staff

“I want you to know how much I appreciate your email, and how much I respect your journey. You and I are the same age. A lot has changed in our lifetimes. For me, as a child of the South I was very lucky to grow up in the military, which despite its flaws was the first institution that was racially integrated.

Here are my thoughts. The Confederate battle flag was misused and abused, there is no question about this. But I am deeply concerned that the larger politics of the war are being put onto the backs of the soldiers who were called upon to fight it — which, by the way, caused more than 1/3 of them to lose their lives. Two of my ancestors died in that endeavor, one in Virginia and one in Tennessee. Neither of them owned slaves and one of them, from the far mountains of SW Virginia, had never seen one, I’m sure. You mention Vietnam. I fought there and was wounded. My son fought in Iraq. Neither of these wars are being remembered with a great deal of respect, but that does not mean we should wrongly characterize the service of people who fought there. BTW one of my great-grandfathers fought for the Union as a sergeant in the Kentucky infantry. I respect him in the same manner.

According to John Hope Franklin, probably the most eminent Black historian in American history, only five percent of the whites in the South owned slaves in 1860, and only about 25 percent had any personal or economic connection to the institution of slavery. As a Richmond native, I’m sure those percentages were higher in your area. But the irony to me has always been trying to figure out what this looked like from the soldiers’ perspective, not the politicians. Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland and Delaware all were slave states and stayed in the Union. Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation did not include the slave owners in those states. The writer in me tries to imagine what it must have been like for the typical soldier to sort out all of these things. This has always led me to deplore the institution of slavery but to try to understand those who served.
Again, I very much appreciate your letter and I respect your viewpoint.”

**Storekeeper** · 26-06-2015, 12:43 PM

Long before James Webb became secretaryof the Navy or a U.S. senator—or even potentially a 2016 Democratic presidential candidate—he was a 23-year-old Marine fighting in Vietnam’s An Hoa basin, west of the city of Da Nang, as part of the Fifth Marine Regiment. During his tour as a rifle platoon and company commander, Webb was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star, two Bronze Star Medals and two Purple Hearts for his actions in combat. An enemy grenade left him with shrapnel lodged in his head, arm, leg and back. Recounting his gritty combat tour during some of the war’s darkest days—in one eight-week period, his rifle platoon suffered 51 Purple Hearts among those killed or wounded—he told an interviewer in 1988, “My greatest feeling in Vietnam was that I was a pawn.”

Webb’s time at the war helped to inspire his career as a writer; his 1978 debut novel, Fields of Fire, is considered one of the best books ever written about the Vietnam War, and his writing ever since has often focused on combat. It’s an experience, Webb says, that the average civilian can never understand. As he wrote in his 2014 memoir, “I and my fellow combat veterans stand on one side of a great impassable divide, with the rest of the world on the other.”

This is Webb’s first piece of fiction published since September 2001.

Read more: To Kill a Man - Jim Webb - POLITICO Magazine

**panama hat** · 26-06-2015, 07:40 PM

Still begs the question why a secessionist flag, which isn't the state nor federal flag, flew/flies over government buildings

We all have ancestors who died in whichever wars and to use them to score political points is pathetic

**Storekeeper** · 26-06-2015, 08:30 PM

After re-reading what Webb said it appears he dodged addressing where he stands on the confederate flag at this time.

**Boon Mee** · 28-06-2015, 04:48 PM

8,000 Empty Seats At Clinton Speech...

Grandma is old news, man. Washed up and to be put out to pasture

Virginia Democrats gave away tickets to a Hillary Clinton speech

The Democratic Party of Virginia was giving away free tickets to an event featuring Hillary Clinton on Friday night.

Clinton is headlining the party's annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner on Friday evening. Though the event is raising money for the Virginia Democrats rather than her presidential bid, it is considered an important campaign appearance for Clinton. The dinner is Clinton's first campaign stop in Virginia, a crucial swing state. It's also one of her first stops outside of the early primary states.

Virginia Democrats are giving away tickets to Hillary Clinton's speech tonight - Business Insider

Heh...

**S Landreth** · 29-06-2015, 05:20 AM

Mrs. Clinton vs the GOP dregs on the Supreme Court decision about Same Sex Marriage and Obamacare

Hillary Clinton Praises Gay Marriage Decision and Hounds GOP

"Equality triumphed, and America triumphed"

Hillary Clinton praised the Supreme Court decision to guarantee same-sex marriages on Friday night and forcefully condemned the Republicans’ response to the ruling, warning the GOP presidential field not to turn LGBT issues into a “political football for this 2016 campaign.”

“It was an emotional roller coaster of a day, Clinton said. “This morning, love triumphed in the highest court in our land. Equality triumphed, and America triumphed.”

“Instead of trying to turn back the clock,” Clinton continued, Republicans “should be joining us in saying no to discrimination once and for all.”

Clinton’s comments on Friday evening were her first public remarks in the wake of Friday’s Supreme Court ruling that the Constitution guarantees the right for same-sex couples to marry. Her campaign issued a statement Friday in support of the decision and touted it on social media.

Nearly all the Republican presidential hopefuls have criticized the Supreme Court’s decision, with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker calling it a “grave mistake” and Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee naming the Supreme Court “an imperial court.” The Republicans have said the issue should be decided by the states, and several called for a constitutional amendment.

Among the general electorate, the issue of gay marriage favors the Democrats: nearly 60% of Americans support same-sex marriage, a count that has grown rapidly in recent years. It is likely to be a boon for Democrats in a general election.

Clinton called Friday’s Supreme Court decision a ruling that reinforced American values. “Today was not about discovering new rights—it was about getting closer to the ideals that have defined our nation from the very beginning,” she said.

Much of the former secretary of state’s address was a preview of what her stump speech in a general election might sound like. Clinton ticked off a list of issues that she said made the Republicans sounds like the “party of the past,” including gun control, immigration reform, same-sex marriage and the Affordable Care Act.

She praised the Supreme Court for upholding the Obamacare subsidies in states with federal-run exchanges, and called on all states to accept funding for Medicaid expansion.

The Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Constitution guarantees a right to same-sex marriage, bringing an end to a patchwork of marriage laws across the U.S. and decades of activism pushing for marriage equality.

Obamacare, Same Sex Marriage, Fair Housing

the teabaggers had a bad week last week and they don’t have a future to look forward to.

**Storekeeper** · 29-06-2015, 07:23 AM

Ben Carson wins conservative straw poll in Colorado for second year - The Denver Post

"Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb was the favorite of the conservatives in Denver with 83 votes, far outpacing former New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with 48. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders collected 42 votes, and Vice President Joe Biden had 39.

Besides Pelosi,who finished last, Democrats receiving votes were Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 21; former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley-17; former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee, 16; first lady Michelle Obama, 15; and Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, 8".

Rest of article in the link.

**longway** · 29-06-2015, 03:07 PM

Shillary used to be against gay marriage. So what are bernie Sanders chances of winning the nomination in place of this awful woman?

**Humbert** · 29-06-2015, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by longway

Shillary used to be against gay

A lot of people have changed their thinking on this issue. Good for her.

**Boon Mee** · 29-06-2015, 06:22 PM

Bernie is kicking Grandma's ass!

In Bernie Sanders, an unlikely ? but real ? threat to Hillary Clinton - The Washington Post

Say it ain't so!

**misskit** · 29-06-2015, 09:16 PM

^ Why do you keep calling Clinton "grandma," Grandpa BoonMee? Has her age or the shape of her cankles anything to do with her politics?

Go Bernie.

**harrybarracuda** · 30-06-2015, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

^ Why do you keep calling Clinton "grandma," Grandpa BoonMee? Has her age or the shape of her cankles anything to do with her politics?

Go Bernie.

It's called desperation.

**Boon Mee** · 30-06-2015, 05:59 AM

Hillary Clinton on Gay Marriage 2004

How shameless is Hillary Clinton’s pandering after the SCOTUS same-sex marriage ruling?

Hillary Clinton ✔@HillaryClinton
Proud to celebrate a historic victory for marriage equality—& the courage & determination of LGBT Americans who made it possible. -H

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