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You mean besides putting himself in for Purple Hearts - minor flesh wounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
A real American Hero! :rofl:
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You mean besides putting himself in for Purple Hearts - minor flesh wounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
A real American Hero! :rofl:
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What a SHOCKER, eh?
The US arms foreign Islamists to overthrow a secular state, and is mildly disapproving about a secular peoples revolution in Egypt. Whatever the US stands for these days is not to be found in it's Bill of Rights.
Yes, yes. "These days."
Latin American Death Squads of the 70s and 80s brought to you by the Bill of Rights.
I thought it was only teenagers who think sex was invented by their generation.
They wuz a fightin' communism, the one true cause du jour. Now I really dunno what we is a fightin'.
Well, ask the Drone Ranger?Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I'm sure we'll get a straight answer. It's quite amusing to watch barry debate himself, on Youtube. :rolleyes:
What you mean is... you bought the communism scam but can't do the same with the equally bogus "terrorist" scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
This tendency to pretend that America has somehow morphed into an evil killer on the international scheme is part and parcel of the successful implementation of the History for Dummies program, cf. the chapter on Amnesia or How I Learned to Love Myself by Ignoring the Murder I Supported.
The man has no core beliefs other than to campaign for some nebulous ideal(s) associated with wealth redistribution.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Maybe- I'm certainly not supporting Reagans foreign policy in Sth America in particular, I think it stunk. It failed, too. But I don't recall the US switching horses midstream, and arming (and funding, and training) a Communist insurgency drawing in nasty Communista guerilla's from around the world, to overthrow a democracy.
Switch horses, ride two at a time... Iran Contra represents what in your "Holy Moly Batman!" moment?Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Cuba at that time was in the expansionist mode so there was a need to stifle some of that activity much the same as in Chile and Grenada.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
^^ Everything I'm warning against- the security state acting outside of it's constitutional and legal boundaries, and misleading or covering it up from Congress, and thus the people. This could be considered a form of coup. You seem to be saying, "it goes on, and this is no different, so it doesn't matter". But I recall something (insipid) being done about the Contra scandal- not being shrugged off by an indifferent public and a corporate media, which totally shirks it's responsibility in the modern era. Congress has a responsibility to get to the bottom of this, which it is visibly shirking. That is who Edward Snowden should be talking to.
Congress is too busy squabbling among itself, and entangling legislation, to step up to the mark. It is making itself an irrelevance, and others are more than happy to fill the vacuum.
My point is that things haven't changed at all in terms of how the American system works at the level of those in power.
What has changed is that no one cares any more and even "liberals" listen to voices like that of larva and struggle to be mature and accept that democracy means disenfranchisement just like war means peace.
Your problem, from my perspective, is that you think the government's perfidy and illegality are new. They aren't. Not by a long shot.
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HRC is yesterdays news..
Republicans in search of an attack line against Hillary Clinton have begun to cast her as a tired relic of the past — an implicit contrast to their own bench of up-and-comers like hip hop-listening Marco Rubio and libertarian-leaning Rand Paul.
But Democrats are confident that giving voters the chance to make history by electing the first female president — by definition a forward-looking act — would trump any argument that Clinton is too 20th century and give her a “change” mantra of her own.
“If Secretary Clinton runs, she’ll be the nominee — the first female nominee of either party,” said Stephanie Cutter, a former top adviser to the Obama White House and campaign. “That breaks through the ‘old’ tagline that the Republican geniuses are cooking up because, if handled correctly, women of all ages will absolutely be inspired by that. I don’t recommend that be the totality of her message or platform, but there’s no way to hide that fact and it certainly shouldn’t be discounted. “
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And this article showing what a joke they (rethugs) are.
Is This A Joke?
Welcome Crooks & Liars!
Is someone at the New York Times getting pwned or is this for real?
The 2016 election may be far off, but one theme is becoming clear: Republican strategists and presidential hopefuls, in ways subtle and overt, are eager to focus a spotlight on Mrs. Clinton’s age. The former secretary of state will be 69 by the next presidential election, a generation removed from most of the possible Republican candidates.
Despite her enduring popularity, a formidable fund-raising network and near unanimous support from her party, Mrs. Clinton, Republican leaders believe, is vulnerable to appearing a has-been.
“Perhaps in the Democratic primary and certainly in the general election, there’s going to be an argument that the time for a change of leadership has come,” said the Republican strategist Karl Rove. “The idea that we’re at the end of her generation and that it’s time for another to step forward is certainly going to be compelling.”
For a party trying to make inroads with women voters, calling Hillary Clinton’s age into question seems a dubious strategy. But also:
• The party that ran John McCain, born in 1936, for president in the 2008 election questions the age of Hillary Clinton, born in 1947?
• The party that constantly invokes the sainted name of the long-dead Ronald Reagan, the oldest president ever elected, questions Hillary Clinton’s age?
• The party whose base shows up wearing Revolutionary War costumes is questioning how current the likely Democratic Party candidates are?
• The party whose White House hopes rest with Jeb Bush, brother of the last failed Republican president and son of a failed Republican president before that, is throwing around words like “change of leadership” and “end of a generation”?
• The party whose unofficial motto is “party like it’s 1954″ is calling the Democratic Party old-fashioned?
• The party whose pick for governor of Virginia is actively trying to bring back long outmoded anti-sodomy and anti-oral sex laws dares question the modernity of the Democratic Party?
[ADDING ... the party which is trying to repeal Obamacare for the gazillionth time says Democrats don't have new ideas?]
Hilarious!
Seriously, they just don’t have a clue, do they?
One can only imagine the howls of spastic apoplexy if either Obama or Clinton had brought up McCain's age in 2008. Unreal.Quote:
Republican strategists and presidential hopefuls, in ways subtle and overt, are eager to focus a spotlight on Mrs. Clinton’s age.
Hillary Clinton continues to rule the 2016 roost
In an early snapshot of the 2016 presidential race, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads both Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., and Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday.
Clinton tops Christie 46 to 40 percent, and she beats Paul by a margin of 50 to 38 percent. Vice President Joe Biden, by contrast, trails Christie, 46 to 35 percent, and is tied with Paul at 42 percent apiece.
Fifty-five percent of voters view Clinton favorably, while only 38 percent view her unfavorably. Christie, who is not as well known, still boasts strong favorability numbers, at 45 to 18 percent. Even 41 percent of Democrats view Christie favorably, while only 19 percent view him unfavorably.
in the same poll more information that should make a nice weekend for the rethugs :)
68 percent of voters say congressional Republicans are doing too little to reach across the aisle
51 percent of voters blame the gridlock on the GOP's determination to block any initiative backed by the president
54 percent of voters said undocumented immigrants living in the United States should be given an eventual path to citizenship
62 percent of voters voiced agreement with the recent Supreme Court decision extending federal benefits to same-sex couples
Clinton Covered Up Ambassador's Pedophilia - YouTube
U.S. Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman routinely ditched his security detail in Brussels and solicited prostitutes—this according to a suppressed Inspector General report. Further, Gutman was alleged to have been engaged in pedophilia—sex with children. When agents discovered that Howard Gutman was having sex with children—underage prostitutes—it was allowed to continue for months! Why? It proved to be too damaging to the State Department. It proved to be too damaging to Hillary Clinton, slated by the Democrat party to run for President in 2016.
A recent photo of the TDMA's heroine! :rofl:
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Christ on a Crutch! She's looking even frumpier than DemocraticCongresswoman Rosa DeLauro!
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Michelle Obama's Mirror
^^^^^ Thanks for the article.
Trying to use age and a "has-been" for HRC will fail, IMO.
She got the name recog, financial backing, and support of the party machine.
She can appeal to women voters (Romney got killed by single and married women voters in the last election).
The GOP needs to focus on ISSUES.
Not these side-tracking shallow things.
S Landreth ... I'd prefer Elizabeth Warren over HRC. Far more intelligent but probably no chance in hell of winning.
The fake Native American?Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
Yes, I guess the same ... And now a Senator. And a brilliant watchdog of the financial market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon MeeThe fake Native American?Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
Ready For Hillary PAC Rejects Million-Dollar Donation Offer, Says It's Focusing On Grassroots
Though she has kept silent about whether she plans to run for president in 2016, Hillary Rodham Clinton's potential candidacy has continued to pick up steam. Ready for Hillary, a super PAC pushing Clinton to run, has reportedly already received -- and declined -- offers for donations worth millions of dollars.
"We have turned away seven-figure checks," Adam Parkhomenko, the group's executive director, told Agence France-Presse.
As an independent expenditure committee, Ready for Hillary is legally allowed to accept unlimited donations from individuals and corporations. But the organization has chosen to instead focus on the same kind of grassroots efforts that gave the competitive edge to then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who defeated Clinton in the 2008 primary.
Ms. Warren seems to be doing a good job where she is it at now. I think it would be nice if she kept it up and not thin the party out too much. Better to have both women, Clinton and Warren working for the American public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
a horse race, an outliner or just Iowa
In a possible 2016 White House matchup, 41% of Iowa voters say they would back Clinton, the former secretary of state, 2008 presidential candidate, U.S. senator, and first lady, if she were the Democratic nominee, with an equal amount saying they would back New Jersey Gov. Christie if he were the GOP nominee. In a hypothetical general election showdown with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Clinton has a 46%-39% edge.
According to the poll, Clinton has a 52%-41% favorable/unfavorable rating with Iowa voters. Christie stands at 42%-16%, with the vice president at 38%-47% and nearly two-thirds saying they don’t know enough about the Wisconsin governor to form an opinion.
"Quinnipiac University has tested Clinton against a variety of Republicans in a number of states and Christie seems to be running the best so far."
Iowa (IA) Poll - July 22, 2013 - Quinnipiac University Connecticut
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Originally Posted by Boon MeeWell, one can only hope for a Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz as a change for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
BM, you don't have a clue :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
In a short interview with ABC News, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) laid out just how little he thinks of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, saying Hillary Clinton would "destroy" either of them if they become their party's nominee in 2016. For a hawk like King their isolationist talk is complete anathema.
PETER KING: I think she’s very strong on foreign policy, and I think that if we nominate somebody from our isolationist wing of the party, she’ll destroy them. We need somebody that can stand up to her.
Once again HRC shows what a shameless hag she really is.
Hillary Clinton ✔ @HillaryClinton Congratulations from across the pond to the Duke and Duchess! Wishing you the best of luck and a bit of advice: It Takes a (Royal) Village!
8:01 PM - 23 Jul 2013
Ludicrous...
Heh, it seems that the prospect of Prez Hillary is causing some great discomfort..
Stop Hillary PAC Implies Clinton Presidency Would Make Them Suicidal
Seems like a compelling reason to support her bid to me, I wonder what would happen if she picked Pelosi for the VP slot? :D
Hollyweird doesn’t produce much of any interest these days, but don’t count it out yet. Here’s a trailer for a horror film due out in 2016 that will raise the hair on the back of your neck:
So Help Us - Stop Hillary PAC - YouTube
If Hillary Clinton taking the oath of office as President of the United States doesn't scare you -- and make you fear for the future direction of our county -- I don't know what will.
Quote of the Day
"The funny thing about Hillary Clinton is how vastly her reputation exceeds her accomplishments. In reality, the only reason anyone has heard of her is that she married Bill Clinton. Otherwise, she would have toiled away as an obscure, reasonably competent if obnoxious lawyer. She was a relatively unpopular First Lady who is best remembered for being embarrassed by her husband's serial infidelities. She served a brief term as a Senator from New York, a role in which she achieved nothing. Then she lost the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, and punched her ticket during a singularly unsuccessful stint as Secretary of State. Never has she had an original thought, formulated a successful strategy, or stepped out of the shadow of her singular husband.
But none of that matters: Hillary already has the establishment's enthusiastic backing as she prepares for her next presidential run."
And she's well on her way to getting the highly coveted Maverick endorsement.
They don't call him McRino for nothin'...
S Landreth post 346
Cruz and Rand Paul will never get elected as potus, and getting the nomination is highly doubtful.
Long way to go for the next election, but the GOP heavyweights want Cristie to run and they are willing to bankroll, fund raise, and get the funds for his run.
The GOP often annoints a person for the nomination. This is what they are doing with Cristie.
I think a Cristie vs. HRC campaign would be very interesting, and I would vote for Cristie.
Here is an article on Rand having good chances for bieng potus. I disagree with it. He does not present himself well, IMO, has little experience, is too Libertarian to win against Hillary. I don´t think he is viable after 2016, either. Better to stay in the Senate.
He also does not seems as sharp as his father.
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President Rand Paul Watch out, he's becoming a better politician every day
BY JULIA IOFFE
It was the first time in recent memory that the Iowa GOP Lincoln Day Dinner sold out nearly two weeks in advance, and it was on the strength of its headliner, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, who, in turn, was invited on the strength of his 13-hour filibuster against the Obama administration’s use of drones. During the happy hour at a small Cedar Rapids hotel, local donors stood in line to have their pictures taken with Paul, almost completely ignoring their own congressmen, Representative Steve King and Senator Chuck Grassley. They had come to see Paul, and he got a standing ovation before he even started talking.
Paul began in stand-up mode, describing a recent trip to New York in which he had driven by the Federal Reserve—the crowd booed on cue—to find it blocked by police cars. “We go up to the police, and we ask what’s going on, and they say the Federal Reserve has been robbed. And we said, really?!” Paul said, his voice nearly cracking in mock disbelief. “They said, ‘Yeah, but we caught the thieves. They got in front of the safe, they had the big safe open, but they were perplexed. They were flummoxed. They didn’t know what to do with minus sixteen trillion dollars!’ ”
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Rand Paul keeps his fingers crossed.
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The audience roared—which was to be expected, since they were, as Paul himself joked, “an easy crowd.” His father, Ron Paul, the libertarian Quixote, who famously preached a return to the gold standard and wrote a book called End the Fed, had come in third in the state’s presidential caucuses last year. Rand’s timing, too, was fortuitous: That day, the attendees were buzzing about the news that the IRS had apologized for picking on the kinds of conservative grassroots groups that make up the Paul family base.
In fact, in the months since Rand Paul’s blockbuster filibuster, the news cycle has handed him gift after gift after gift. Not long after the IRS revelations came the Department of Justice’s aggressive pursuit of national security leaks to the Associated Press. Then news broke that the National Security Agency was dredging up massive amounts of telephone data from millions of Americans on a daily basis. Paul quickly threatened to bring a class action lawsuit against the agency. This is a moment tailored for Rand Paul, more than for Marco Rubio or Chris Christie, or anyone else in the potential Republican 2016 lineup.
Entire - President Rand Paul: He's Becoming a Better Politician Every Day | New Republic
Here are 16 reasons why Hillary Clinton is poised to be elected (The Daily Beast) the next president of the United States, in order of importance.
1. Madame President: A Great Social Movement in the Making
2. The Media Is Ready to Crown a Queen
3. Groupthink: It’s Her Time, and She Deserves It
4. Organization the Obama Way
5. Barrels of Money
6. The Electoral College is Slanted Toward Hillary and the Democrats
7. Hillary Will Have Either Symbolic or No Primary Opposition
8. The Hispanic Voting Bloc Is Hillary’s to Lose
9. The African-American and Asian Vote Is Also Hillary’s to Lose
10. Bill Clinton Will Be a Tremendous Asset to Hillary
11. Hillary Will Run for Either Obama’s Third Term or Bill Clinton’s
12. The Republicans Have a Weak Bench With Little Star Power
13. The Long GOP Primary System Plays to Hillary’s Advantage
14. Hillary Will Make the Case That She Is the Only Leader Who Can Bring Us Together
15. Calling Hillary ‘Old’ Insults the Old Republican Base
16. The GOP Has Weak Arguments Against Hillary
And Finally…
Because of reasons No. 1 through 16, and in spite of the fact that Hillary is extremely polarizing and travels with a lot of baggage, she is still poised to win in 2016 because frankly, there is no one who can stop her.
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More about #7 above,…..
Ready For Hillary, the super PAC with close ties to Clinton confidants, has raised $1.2 million since its inception this year— with a good chunk of the cash coming from mega-donors to President Barack Obama.
While it’s hardly a breathtaking amount of money by today’s standards, the effort drives home the painful message to other potential Democratic presidential hopefuls that Clinton controls the field three years before any votes are cast.
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Political operatives close to Vice-president Joseph Biden, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley say privately that the men will not run if Clinton gets into the race. “He doesn’t have a death wish,” said an advisor to one.
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And just for fun (what people think about Palin in her home state),…..
PPP's newest Alaska poll finds that Hillary Clinton would have a chance at winning the state in 2016...but only if Sarah Palin was the Republican candidate for President. Clinton would lead Palin 49/40 in a hypothetical match up. Only 18% of Alaskans think Palin should run in 2016 to 77% who think she shouldn't, and even among Republican voters 72% think she should sit out the race.
Heh...The Hillary Fascination Tour Continues.
Basically, she's only a 'rock star' because people keep calling her one. Can anyone name a truly interesting thing HRC has said? What has she ever accomplished, eh?
She's only in the spotlight because of her old man...:mid:
^^That's a fascinating article. Someone sent it to me about an hour ago. If the assumptions are correct by and large, and if her health holds (which I think is a big IF), she is looking very strong.
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OK, but what has she accomplished? :chitown:
Unfortunately, that's not the point. The same bleating flocks that brought Obama in based on nothing other than his being a half-black guy who could shout "Change" over and over will bring her in based on name recognition, the fact that there are no other viable candidates, and the fact she is allegedly female. If you read the article, it makes some very good points - not on why she SHOULD be elected, but on why she WILL be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by Davis KnowltonUnfortunately, that's not the point. The same bleating flocks that brought Obama in based on nothing other than his being a half-black guy who could shout "Change" over and over will bring her in based on name recognition, the fact that there are no other viable candidates, and the fact she is allegedly female. If you read the article, it makes some very good points - not on why she SHOULD be elected, but on why she WILL be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Low-Information Voters again...:confused:
That, and the fact that Blowjob Bill has somehow gone from being a lying, duplicitous, total piece of shit to being a revered elder statesman. I just don't get America anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
WTF happened to politics? It used to be about visions on how to make life better for all people and giving them a purpose, but now the 'media is ready to crown a queen'. You and Boon Mee will quarrel about her for many years, and not realise that she's appointed to fcuk both of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth