Support Sharia Law and keep blaming Hillary for something she didn't do. You are the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Printable View
Support Sharia Law and keep blaming Hillary for something she didn't do. You are the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
^ you are becoming hysterical again.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even..._of_libya_was/
You have forgotten to take your autism meds again.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Progress?Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
I bet you really giggled when Pan Am flight 103 blew up over Lockerbie. Or am I being hysterical?
Go ahead, post some nutjob You Tube video that says otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Heart
Give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humbert
Aspergers more like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humbert
We'll be hearing more of this.
Bernie Sanders backers demand Washington superdelegates feel the Bern
Originally published March 26, 2016 at 11:05 am Updated March 28, 2016
After a massive win Saturday, Sanders' backers in Washington state are demanding superdelegates follow the vote of the people. Many of them have backed Hillary Clinton.
By Jim Brunner
Seattle Times political reporter
Supporters of Bernie Sanders are demanding Washington’s 17 “superdelegates” fall in line and support Sanders if he wins today’s caucuses.
A petition circulated on MoveOn.org demands those delegates “follow the lead of average Democratic party voters and uphold authentic democracy.” The petition was started by Charlie Best, who works for the King County Labor Council, but said he was acting as a private citizen and not for the organization.
Sanders backers have chafed at the less-than-democratic superdelegate system, in which top elected Democrats and party officials are automatic delegates to the Democratic National Convention. Unlike regular delegates, the superdelegates are unpledged, meaning they are free to back whichever candidate they want, regardless of their state’s caucus or primary results. Those superdelegates nationally have favored Hillary Clinton by a huge margin. That’s true in Washington too, where a majority of the 17 superdelegates have endorsed Clinton. Republicans, by contrast, have no superdelegate system.
“To be able to have these delegates that have no accountability to the Democratic Party members seems to me to be a tad undemocratic,” Best said in an interview. “When the party base speaks, the leadership should follow the lead of the party base.”
Washington’s superdelegates include Gov. Jay Inslee, U.S. Sens. Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray, and U.S. Reps. Jim McDermott, Suzan DelBene, Rick Larsen, Adam Smith, Denny Heck and Derek Kilmer – who have all publicly backed Clinton. Other superdelegates are state Democratic Party officials, including chairman Jaxon Ravens, who have said they’ll remain neutral until after the caucuses.
As of Saturday morning, the petition had more than 6,000 signatures. By Sunday evening, the number had risen to nearly 23,000. One signatory from Seattle warned elected leaders, “You work for us. We want Bernie. Respect us or lose your job.”
Bernie Sanders backers demand Washington superdelegates feel the Bern | The Seattle Times
You are still being hysterical.:ourrules:Quote:
Originally Posted by Humbert
Snap out of it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaAspergers more like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humbert
Get a grip.
Bernie says some interesting things about the GOP.
Seems to me this race is getting more and more interesting.Quote:
Rachel Maddow posed an interesting question to Sen. Bernie Sanders during their interview on Wednesday: Would he like to see the Republican Party just disappear? Sanders' answer was also an interesting one. He didn't take the bait; instead, he offered an alternative theory—the GOP would disappear if corporate media simply told the truth about the party's agenda.
Sanders didn't mean that as hyperbole. By his estimate, the Republican Party would drop to single-digit support if it weren't for negligence by the press:
I think if we had a media in this country that was really prepared to look at what the Republicans actually stood for rather than quoting every absurd remark of Donald Trump, talking about Republican Party, talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks for the top two tenths of 1 percent, cuts to Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, a party which with few exceptions doesn't even acknowledge the reality of climate change, let alone do anything about it, a party which is not prepared to stand with women in the fight for pay equity, a party that is not prepared to do anything about a broken criminal justice system or a corrupt campaign finance system, I think, to be honest with you—and I just don't, you know, say this rhetorically, this is a fringe party. It is a fringe party. Maybe they get 5, 10 percent of the vote.
"The Republican Party today now is a joke," he continued, "maintained by a media which really does not force them to discuss their issues."
Sanders was returning to one of his driving issues over the years—a fervent belief that corporate-owned media was steering democracy off a cliff. In 1979, he wrote an essay arguing that TV networks were "using the well-tested Hitlerian principle that people should be treated as morons and bombarded over and over again with the same simple phrases and ideas" to prevent them from thinking critically about the world around them. He hit those same themes (albeit more diplomatically) in his book, Outsider in the House, arguing that TV news coverage was dumbing down America by inundating viewers with superficial coverage of O.J. Simpson instead of "corporate disinvestment in the United States." Not surprisingly, when Maddow asked Sanders in an interview last fall what his dream job might be, he quickly blurted out, "president of CNN."
A corporate media that obsesses over the issues Sanders obsesses over would certainly have some impact on the political landscape. But Sanders' dismissal of the Republican base seems to miss a far more obvious takeaway. People vote for Republicans not because they've been brainwashed, but because they actually like what Republicans like Trump are proposing.
Bernie Sanders Has an Interesting Theory About Why the Republican Party Exists | Mother Jones
Seems Hillary stole the AZ election primary through nasty polling station shenanigans.
https://web.facebook.com/PeopleForBe...7955972424609/
Go for the Bern, Fuck the corporate owned cnut Hillary!
:cmn:
^ F$&7 Bernie and the Bots ... They're not Democrats.
^Didn't realise that you are a party purist, SK.
I read somewhere that with regards to party identification Repubs are at 23% (and falling) , Democrats at 29%, and Independents at over 40% of voters. Even though there are fewer registered Pubes, they do make a good fist of controlling statehouses and governorships. Bastards...
Bernie - get them off your lawn :)
Quote:
Bernie Sanders’ Bronx Rally Proves the Power of Live Campaigning
Tracy Peguero was shoeless and searching for her other boot.
It was an odd place to lose a boot, of course, standing there in the middle of a public park in the Bronx, surrounded by thousands of strangers. But the boots had about a two-inch heel on them, and Peguero, a 17-year-old student at Mott Haven Village Prep, didn’t want them to get in the way of all the jumping up and down and dancing she and her classmates planned to do that night.
For Peguero, this night was a rare opportunity to see a presidential candidate—in this case, Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders—up close, just blocks away from their high school, and some silly heels weren’t going to stop her from joining in what was, for many Bronx natives, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
As Peguero’s history teacher Melissa Cohen put it, “No one ever comes to the South Bronx.”
It wasn’t the first time I heard that sentiment on Thursday night as 18,500 Sanders supporters gathered in St. Mary’s Park, waiting for him to take the stage. “Things like this don’t happen in the Bronx, and I was born and raised here,” said Pablo Muriel, another teacher from nearby Alfred E. Smith High School, who brought several dozen students out to the event.
“He’s making us visible again,” said Dhalimu Robinson, a South Bronx small business owner with an “I Heart Bernie” pin affixed to his lapel. “He’s here during the primary season. He’s not just saying I’ll get to them later, and then forgetting about us like every other candidate usually does.”
full story hereQuote:
And yet, Sanders’ central obstacle to winning the New York primary on April 19 will be cutting through the name recognition that former New York Senator Clinton has in this and other predominantly minority neighborhoods in New York. A recent Quinnipiac poll found that 66 percent of black Democrats in New York back Clinton, versus 31 percent for Sanders.
In his opening speech Thursday night, Sanders supporter and director Spike Lee admitted as much, saying, “We have to talk to our parents, because the older generation, they on this Clinton thing.”
Sure, the Sanders campaign can (and does) spread the word about the senator on social media, but the people of the Bronx could just as easily tune it out. A nearly 19,000 person block party smack in the middle of the Bronx was pretty hard to miss. What’s more, it only fueled the already impressive social media operation the Sanders campaign has built, as thousands of Facebook posts and Tweets shared from the event made the hashtag #BernieIntheBronx start trending.
Bernie Sanders? Bronx Rally Proves the Power of Live Campaigning | WIRED
I've started to develop a strong dislike and contempt for Bernie supporters. And since I still believe HRC will get the nomination it makes me nauseous to even think of them climbing back on the D-train.Quote:
Originally Posted by happynz
Bernie got into this thing to make a difference for the future. He's not going to abandon the Democratic party out of pique, and he will encourage he fans to vote for Hillary.Quote:
Originally Posted by StorekeeperI've started to develop a strong dislike and contempt for Bernie supporters. And since I still believe HRC will get the nomination it makes me nauseous to even think of them climbing back on the D-train.Quote:
Originally Posted by happynz
Here's an insightful article (and I think exciting and sound also) from Salon.com re: Bernie, in particular, and the state of the election, in general:
SATURDAY, APR 2, 2016 07:00 PM +0700
Democrats need to accept a hard truth about Bernie Sanders: He can get a lot more done as a senator than president — and here’s why
He's been a huge, positive influence on the primary. But maybe Sanders would do more from outside the Oval Office
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/04/87.jpg
Quote:
By the standards of a jaded and cynical journalist who believes it’s almost miraculous that human imperfection hasn’t yet resulted in the destruction of civilization as we know it, I like Sen. Bernie Sanders as much as the next guy (or gal).
I am very happy he decided to run for president; and even if he loses, which at this point seems quite likely, he has done the American Left a great service. If Hillary Clinton ultimately becomes the next president, which at this point seems increasingly likely, I expect her to enter office with an administration that’s appreciably more left-leaning than it would have been if Sanders had decided to forego the ordeal of a presidential campaign and stay in beautiful Vermont, thank you very much.
I believe that Sanders’ influence on American politics has been, overall, for the good. His campaign has helped legitimize an unapologetic style of liberalism that was long thought to be electoral poison. It’s hard to imagine that a generation of young Democrats swooning over a self-described socialist won’t have serious, enduring consequences. And his apparent personal integrity is commendable and rare.
But — sigh — I gotta tell ya something. When he says stuff like this, I start to wonder whether, all things considered, his falling short of the Democratic Party nomination isn’t for the best:
Rachel Maddow posed an interesting question to Sen. Bernie Sanders during their interview on Wednesday: Would he like to see the Republican Party just disappear? Sanders’ answer was also an interesting one. He didn’t take the bait; instead, he offered an alternative theory—the GOP would disappear if corporate media simply told the truth about the party’s agenda.
Uh oh. The idea that no one could truly disagree with you — that ignorance or delusion is the only explanation for why a person might come to a conclusion that’s opposite your own – has a long history in politics. Taken altogether, the history isn’t very good.
On the Left, the concept used to be commonly referred to as “false consciousness” (even if the term actually has a more specific definition in Marxian discourse). On the Right, it tends to be described as the workings of the so-called liberal media. In both cases, though, the essential conceit is the same. It holds that there is only one legitimate way of thinking: mine.
But maybe this author’s paraphrase does Sanders a disservice? The piece is by Timothy Murphy of Mother Jones — not exactly a hotbed of anti-Sanders feeling. But, hey, crazier things have happened. Maybe what Sanders actually said would look a lot better if we could read it in his own words. He doesn’t actually think he knows what people really want and believe better than they do themselves, right?
Well, here’s the quote in full. Murphy’s paraphrase was, unfortunately, spot-on:
I think if we had a media in this country that was really prepared to look at what the Republicans actually stood for rather than quoting every absurd remark of Donald Trump, talking about Republican Party, talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks for the top two tenths of 1 percent, cuts to Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, a party which with few exceptions doesn’t even acknowledge the reality of climate change, let alone do anything about it, a party which is not prepared to stand with women in the fight for pay equity, a party that is not prepared to do anything about a broken criminal justice system or a corrupt campaign finance system, I think, to be honest with you—and I just don’t, you know, say this rhetorically, this is a fringe party. It is a fringe party. Maybe they get 5, 10 percent of the vote.
Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
Seems like the Bernie movement is all about revealing the ugly truth of racist corporate muppet government and corrupt(super-delegate) big business supported politics.
I've rarely seen a politician say the stuff Bernie is saying.
Corporate media hates it.
I foking love it!
Are you a corporate media muppet, Sailor?
Would think his free college bit would be very appealing to you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
I like Obama's idea of 2 years free community college. That's pretty much my limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
"Consider the number of college graduates today, who can’t find work in their chosen field. Hundreds of thousands of highly educated twenty-somethings are either unemployed or getting paid a pittance to do something totally unrelated to the education they borrowed a fortune to acquire. Collectively, they hold 1.3 trillion dollars of debt, and no real training for the jobs that actually exist. Now, consider the countries widening skills gap – hundreds of thousands of good jobs gone begging because no one wants to learn a useful trade. It’s madness. “College For All” might sound good on the campaign trail, but in real life, it’s a dangerous platitude that reinforces the ridiculous notion that college is for people who use their brains, and trade schools are for people who use their hands. As if the two can not be combined.
Last month, I was invited to comment on the annual list of America’s “Top Jobs” and “Top Schools,” (as determined by one of America’s “Top Magazines.”) I passed. Not just because I’m suspicious of lists – I passed because nowhere on the list of “top colleges” was a single trade school mentioned. Not a one. Not surprisingly, none of the careers my foundation supports made the list of “top jobs.”
This is a classic example of how society quietly discourages careers in the skilled trades. We don’t publish lists of careers called “Jobs We Don’t Want Our Kids To Do.” Instead, we publish “America’s Top Jobs,” and leave off dozens of critical professions. Likewise, no one makes a list called “Schools To Attend If You’re Not That Bright.” Instead, we announce the “Top Colleges,” and omit schools that train people for a whole category of critical vocations. It’s a brilliant way to reinforce the existing stereotype, promote a one-size-fits-all approach to education, and guarantee a workforce that’s dangerously out of balance. But the scariest thing about these lists, is not their obvious bias – it’s their degree of influence on otherwise sensible people.
Would a sensible person recommend The Godfather to someone who hates violence – just because it won Best Picture? Would a sensible person recommend a Steakhouse to a vegetarian, just because Yelp gives it 5-stars? Would a sensible person recommend The Ritz to a traveler on a budget, just because Trip Adviser says it’s the best hotel in the city? Of course not. But every year, lots of otherwise sensible people recommend a four-year college to kids who would be far better served by Trade School. They defer to someone else’s idea of what a Top School is – regardless of suitability and cost."
Off The Wall: The Right of Free College | Mike Rowe
^College for All? Bernie Sanders supports tuition free education in community colleges and state institutions. Please try not to misrepresent his position.:)
Bernie Sanders continues to roll. He won big in Wisconsin tonight and has won 7 of the last 8 Caucasus and primaries. Next up is New York.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us...ults.html?_r=0
john oliver on congressional fundraising - the dems and the repubs are nothing but parasitic corporationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Earl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylomy1Aw9Hk
would you rather have a load of ill educated trailer trash who would only be useful to send to mexico to do menial work ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
like healthcare , education in the US and also Aust is being directed into the realm of corporate scammery where unscrupulous scum create institutes off bullsh1t to take money of those being forced to take loans by the govt and pay for courses of no intrinsic value owned by cronies of the legislators
Bernie is indeed leading a swelling movement and stating out loud many of the ills that are afflicting our devotion to this parasitic verison of immoral capitalism
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/04/255.jpg
From the above article.