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    it's time for today's installment of "unbelievably hypocritical republicans":

    During the food stamp debate, GOP Rep. Stephen Fincher, who received thousands in farm subsidies, responded to a Democratic Congressman during the debate over the cuts by quoting the bible, saying “the one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

    Fincher himself has received his own large share of government money. From 1999 to 2012, Stephen & Lynn Fincher Farms received $3,483,824 in agriculture subsidies. Last year he took in $70,574 alone.

    Another Republican congresswoman who voted to make cuts to the food stamp program was Rep. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri. Her farm received more than $800,000 in Department of Agriculture subsidies from 1995-2012. In 2001, her farm received $135,482 in subsidies.

    Rep. Kristi Noem of South Dakota, who also voted to make cuts to the program, was a partner in Racota Valley Ranch, her family’s farm and previously had nearly a 17% stake through 2008. The farm received $3.4 million in subsidies from 1995-2012. The Environmental Working Group, which analyzes subsidy data, says the “estimated amount of subsidies attributed to Rep. Noem from 1995-2012 is $503,751.”

    Rep. Marlin Stutzman, a Republican Rep. from Indiana also received his fair share of government subsidies. He personally took in nearly $200,000 for the farm he co-owns with his father.

    According to the New York Times Stutzman said Thursday the bill cutting food stamps by $39 billion over the next ten years “eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path.”
    These Republicans Who Voted To Cut Food Stamps Personally Received Large Farm Subsidies

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    it's time for today's installment of "unbelievably hypocritical republicans":

    During the food stamp debate, GOP Rep. Stephen Fincher, who received thousands in farm subsidies, responded to a Democratic Congressman during the debate over the cuts by quoting the bible, saying “the one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”

    Fincher himself has received his own large share of government money. From 1999 to 2012, Stephen & Lynn Fincher Farms received $3,483,824 in agriculture subsidies. Last year he took in $70,574 alone.

    Another Republican congresswoman who voted to make cuts to the food stamp program was Rep. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri. Her farm received more than $800,000 in Department of Agriculture subsidies from 1995-2012. In 2001, her farm received $135,482 in subsidies.

    Rep. Kristi Noem of South Dakota, who also voted to make cuts to the program, was a partner in Racota Valley Ranch, her family’s farm and previously had nearly a 17% stake through 2008. The farm received $3.4 million in subsidies from 1995-2012. The Environmental Working Group, which analyzes subsidy data, says the “estimated amount of subsidies attributed to Rep. Noem from 1995-2012 is $503,751.”

    Rep. Marlin Stutzman, a Republican Rep. from Indiana also received his fair share of government subsidies. He personally took in nearly $200,000 for the farm he co-owns with his father.

    According to the New York Times Stutzman said Thursday the bill cutting food stamps by $39 billion over the next ten years “eliminates loopholes, ensures work requirements, and puts us on a fiscally responsible path.”
    These Republicans Who Voted To Cut Food Stamps Personally Received Large Farm Subsidies
    This is the same type of posting style that got BM suspended. Just lefty crap instead of righty. Cut and paste crap ...

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    He is spot on because the right wing believes; socialism? For me only!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    He is spot on because the right wing believes; socialism? For me only!
    I think it's universal, Rainfall.

    I used to say this to these so-called "socialists" Vietnamese I met in Vietnam.

    I used to repeat this saying:

    Socialism defined:

    "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is all of ours."

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    He is spot on because the right wing believes; socialism? For me only!
    I think it's universal, Rainfall.

    I used to say this to these so-called "socialists" Vietnamese I met in Vietnam.

    I used to repeat this saying:

    Socialism defined:

    "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is all of ours."
    But don't you think the gap between the haves and have nots has grown way out of proportion since the 70s? The rich just getting richer and even worse they're starting to act like they have some sort of birth right to wealth ... like they're royalty or something wanting to give the peasants a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    He is spot on because the right wing believes; socialism? For me only!
    I think it's universal, Rainfall.

    I used to say this to these so-called "socialists" Vietnamese I met in Vietnam.

    I used to repeat this saying:

    Socialism defined:

    "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is all of ours."
    But don't you think the gap between the haves and have nots has grown way out of proportion since the 70s?
    Yes, I agree, SK. I don't think this, but like you - we know - that it is a fact.

    The Gini Index among lots of other data confirm this.

    The income gap in the US is an indicator of not only what the US is now, but where the US is headed. And this isn't good.

    (Vietnam has a major income gap, also, but my focus is on the US.)


    The rich just getting richer
    Yes, big time.

    and even worse they're starting to act like they have some sort of birth right to wealth ... like they're royalty or something wanting to give the peasants a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.
    Every so often....people have to start killing people.

    I have no problem with wealth. But wealth = power and power = wealth.

    We live in a Rent Seeking society.

    Power lobbyists spend multi-millions petitioning the government to GIVE them money that has already been created.
    ............

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    6 kids. How many different fathers? Any child support being paid?

    Oops. Food Stamp computer glitch.

    EBT Food Stamp System Crash: "How Am I Going to Feed My Family?" - YouTube

    [yt]VW-0xJb_FM4[/yt]

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    6 kids. How many different fathers? Any child support being paid?

    Oops. Food Stamp computer glitch.

    EBT Food Stamp System Crash: "How Am I Going to Feed My Family?" - YouTube

    [yt]VW-0xJb_FM4[/yt]
    With close to 50 million Americans relying on EBT to put food on the table an extended outage could get ugly quick, but from what I've read it seems this was a temporary glitch.

    Who cares how many fathers Barbaro? Should kids' food be dependent upon the lifestyle of their parents? Food stamp eligibility is based on gross and net income and includes child support. Gross income limits are established by the federal government and adjusted annually.

    Certainly there is abuse in the system and it must be addressed, but I wonder if there have been any studies that try to estimate how many recipients are abusing the system?

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    Entitlement Nation or What?



    Shelves in Walmart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, LA were reportedly cleared Saturday night, when the stores allowed purchases on Food Stamp cards even though they were not showing limits. [Full cart]

    Walmart stores stepped into the breach when computers that handled EBT sales crashed. Panicked consumers were evidently informed en masse by text messages and hopped immediately into their 4x4s, destination Wallyworld. The pic speaks for itself. When computers suddenly went back on line, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. Others simply left their carts and hotfooted it out. The modern version of store looting. The chance of restoring this nation to its former glory is now nil.

    Walmart shelves in Springhill, Mansfield, cleared in EBT glitch - KLTV.com-Tyler, Longview, Jacksonville, Texas | ETX News

    But, but, wasn't the Messiah going to pay my mortgage & put gas in my car?
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    More on that EBT system “glitch” temporarily eliminated card limits.

    Thanks to the fact that the card holders all have Obamaphones, they advised all their social network friends with EBT cards of this manna from heaven.



    It was like Christmas…only free!



    Shoppers abandoned carts at Walmart when EBT glitch was fixed.

    Ripped from here

    That thin veneer of 'civilization' is getting thinner by the day with Democrats and their enablers in power...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That thin veneer of 'civilization' is getting thinner by the day with Democrats and their enablers in power.
    This from a Teabagger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    6 kids. How many different fathers? Any child support being paid?

    Oops. Food Stamp computer glitch.

    EBT Food Stamp System Crash: "How Am I Going to Feed My Family?" - YouTube

    [yt]VW-0xJb_FM4[/yt]
    With close to 50 million Americans relying on EBT to put food on the table an extended outage could get ugly quick, but from what I've read it seems this was a temporary glitch.
    The problem is, close to 50 million are NOT relying on food stamps. It's an extra fill.

    Who cares how many fathers Barbaro? Should kids' food be dependent upon the lifestyle of their parents?
    People like this are bottom-feeders. How much child support is she getting?

    Food stamp eligibility is based on gross and net income and includes child support. Gross income limits are established by the federal government and adjusted annually.
    Certainly there is abuse in the system and it must be addressed, but I wonder if there have been any studies that try to estimate how many recipients are abusing the system?
    Agreed, but the net has been widened so much. The net for eligibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    6 kids. How many different fathers? Any child support being paid?

    Oops. Food Stamp computer glitch.

    EBT Food Stamp System Crash: "How Am I Going to Feed My Family?" - YouTube

    [yt]VW-0xJb_FM4[/yt]
    With close to 50 million Americans relying on EBT to put food on the table an extended outage could get ugly quick, but from what I've read it seems this was a temporary glitch.
    The problem is, close to 50 million are NOT relying on food stamps. It's an extra fill.

    ^ Do you know this for a fact or is it supposition? This last recession was brutal and has created a huge new class of working poor- people who work full time but still live in poverty because these crap jobs don't pay a living wage.

    Who cares how many fathers Barbaro? Should kids' food be dependent upon the lifestyle of their parents?
    People like this are bottom-feeders. How much child support is she getting?

    You don't know a thing about the woman in the video other than the fact she has 6 children. Does she work or is she a full time mom to her 6 kids? Does she receive child support? Who knows?

    Food stamp eligibility is based on gross and net income and includes child support. Gross income limits are established by the federal government and adjusted annually.
    Certainly there is abuse in the system and it must be addressed, but I wonder if there have been any studies that try to estimate how many recipients are abusing the system?
    Agreed, but the net has been widened so much. The net for eligibility.
    ^ Has it? Have the standards been lowered? A link to substantiate this claim sure would be nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That thin veneer of 'civilization' is getting thinner by the day with Democrats and their enablers in power.
    This from a Teabagger.
    Your post makes utterly no sense at all.

    A smaller, more responsible government and an adherence to the Constitution and Bill of Rights is some how wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That thin veneer of 'civilization' is getting thinner by the day with Democrats and their enablers in power.
    This from a Teabagger.
    Your post makes utterly no sense at all.

    A smaller, more responsible government and an adherence to the Constitution and Bill of Rights is some how wrong?
    You make no sense ever. The bullshit you suggest has been tried continiously since Reagan, and nothing trickles down. It's streaming up. People with full-time jobs are on foodstamps in the dozens of millions because their private employers pay wages too low for a living. Meanwhile, more than $ 1 trillion is lost every year in the US to means of tax evasion open to corporations and very rich individuals only, funds that could finance the food stamps many times over. Not the government or the worker suck the economy dry, but the enemy of the US are the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    People like this are bottom-feeders. How much child support is she getting?
    So you want to starve children to inflict retribution for bad decisions made by their parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Obamaphones
    You mean Lifeline right? The program created during the Reagan Administration and expanded in 2005 to cover mobile phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    People like this are bottom-feeders. How much child support is she getting?
    So you want to starve children to inflict retribution for bad decisions made by their parents?
    Of course not.

    Why would you ask that?

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    Sickening…Aunt Cares More About Foodstamps Than Her Nephews



    Entitlement Nation or what?

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    Poor White Cash: GOP and Food Stamps

    Republicans have become so deluded that they're engaged in class warfare against their own loyal voters.

    (The Root) -- The Republican Party is engaged in class warfare against poor and middle-class white Americans. It is a little-discussed fact but an ironic one worth noting, since those are the very same people who elect them.
    This week, House Republicans passed a nutrition bill that eliminates $39 billion from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, previously known as food stamps. Nearly 47 million Americans currently rely on SNAP -- roughly 15 percent of the population -- and 17.6 million U.S. households are considered food insecure, which means they aren't sure where their next meal will come from. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (pdf), nearly 17 million of these people are children, 5 million are seniors and 300,000 are elderly veterans.
    And despite prevailing racial stereotypes, which first became mainstream during President Ronald Reagan's tenure and his propagation of the myth of a "welfare queen" from the South Side of Chicago, the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients are white. And curiously, many of them are Republicans. USDA data show that in 2011, 37 percent of food stamp users (pdf) were from white, non-Hispanic households.


    Republican Cut in Food Stamps Hurts GOP Voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    [B]the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients are white. And curiously, many of them are Republicans. USDA data show that in 2011, 37 percent of food stamp users (pdf) were from white, non-Hispanic households.
    I've long known this statistic, but how can 37% be considered an "overwhelming majority?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    [b]the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients are white. And curiously, many of them are Republicans. USDA data show that in 2011, 37 percent of food stamp users (pdf) were from white, non-Hispanic households.
    I've long known this statistic, but how can 37% be considered an "overwhelming majority?"
    Indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    [b]the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients are white. And curiously, many of them are Republicans. USDA data show that in 2011, 37 percent of food stamp users (pdf) were from white, non-Hispanic households.
    I've long known this statistic, but how can 37% be considered an "overwhelming majority?"
    You are welcome to look it up if you don't believe me. Unlike Boontard I base my statements in FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    I've long known this statistic, but how can 37% be considered an "overwhelming majority?"
    Because it is the "overwhelming majority" OF FOOD STAMP RECIPIENTS. Which is what Tony wrote.

    Are you really incapable of comprehending a single short sentence?

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    Notice the part in bold: And who was President during the 1996 job requirement? Clinton who also did welfare reform with bipartisan efforts.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...snap_data.html

    How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?

    Slate’s interactive tool for finding local SNAP data.
    By Chris Kirk

    Since the turn of the millennium, participation in the food stamp program, known officially as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, has more than doubled to 15 percent of all U.S. residents in January. In some parts of the country, as few as 1 in 20 people receive food stamps. In others, the figure is more than 1 in 3. Low-income households that meet SNAP eligibility requirements receive a payment card that can only be used to buy government-approved essential foods.


    Under President Obama’s watch, the value of the benefits distributed by the program each year has more than doubled as more people have fallen below the poverty line and more households have joined the program. Obama has expanded eligibility under the theory that it helps the economy, which led Newt Gingrich to dub him the “food stamp president” early in the 2012 election season. Due to the high unemployment rate, the Obama administration has also waived a 1996 job requirement—a rule that made finding a job or enrolling in job training a prerequisite for receiving SNAP benefits—for 46 states. Republican leaders are trying to reinstate the requirement to counteract the program’s escalating cost.

    To find out how many people participate in the program in your area and how that number has changed since 2000, enter your ZIP code, city, or county and state in the widget below.

    At link:
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...snap_data.html

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    ^ Your link doesn't work, it's a 404.

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