View Poll Results: Was 9/11 an inside job - 2016 TD poll

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    ^I haven't read the whole thread, just the last few pages. Thanks for the heads up because I don't think I'll bother if that's the gist of what's on offer.

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    Oh gawd, yes don't read it!

    That's one of the more sane things that has been posted! And it has been posted approx. 348 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    The terrorists made manuevers similar to that which any beginner can do in a car, if they do not value their lives. Any idiot can put their foot down on the accelerator and do amazing stuff which experts will not do because the experts :

    1) Know the machine will not stand it for long before disintegrating, and

    2) Value their lives and know that certain maneuvers have a high probability of causing a crash, whereas beginners either don't know or are too brainless to care about this.

    These particular terrorists took flying courses and concentrated on certain aspects only. They did not bother to learn much regarding takeoff or landing. This should have caused great suspicion but didn't.
    They took over the controls of a plane that had everything prepared : started, fueled-up, warmed up, taken off and flown to a certain altitude.
    5555- Do you really think any idiot who doesn't value his life can do 'amazing stuff' with an aeroplane he has never flown before? Pilots interviewed said to be able to guide those planes into the targets-at speeds well beyond the planes' normal. safe speed- took the skill of an experienced pilot with 20 years flying time behind him. The saudi trainees had never flown those jets before and had no skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
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    Ok that makes sense. Cheers.

    Next.!
    Next- few in the scientific community doubt that it's theoretically possible for a building to experience failure if it is subjected to devastating heat for a sufficient period of time. And additional factors like no fire-proofing, no sprinkler systems, insufficient steel to "bleed off" heat or inferior construction greatly increase the possibility. However, what is "doubted" (or more accurately; considered downright impossible) is that such a failure would resemble anything like what was witnessed on 9/11. Gradual, isolated, asymmetrical failures spread out over time...perhaps. Simultaneous disintegration of all load bearing columns (leaving a pile of neatly folded rubble a few stories high)...no way.

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    Has a building that collapsed from fire ever fallen so quickly and so neatly?

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    The video you quoted shows and explains both how it is possible and exactly how it happened.

    Funny how the building collapses from the top down as clearly demonstrated in the video, and yet according to you demolitions on the ground floor did that? LMAO, yeah....I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    Why you guys feel the need to believe this stuff in spite of all evidence as well as basic common sense I just will never understand.
    Some people just have trouble dealing with the fact that we live in a world where horrible shit happens and/or people do extraordinarily nasty things to each other. They feel a lack of control on their lives so they need to order it in a way that makes sense to them and gives them a sense of power if not actual control over it - they can see the machinations of the shadowy forces behind it all, the normal 'sheeple' can't.

    I've seen it described: "Conspiracy theories are labor-saving devices and home remedies for anxiety and depression [...] It shrinks the unreasonable world down so you “can get your mind around it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    The video you quoted shows and explains both how it is possible and exactly how it happened.

    Funny how the building collapses from the top down as clearly demonstrated in the video, and yet according to you demolitions on the ground floor did that? LMAO, yeah....I don't think so.
    demolition charges are placed throughout the building on different floors


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Now 'pull' is used in demolition terms not finance term which is what Larry is involved in.
    Pull

    I stated this before on one of this idiots (Albert Shagnastier) threads (maybe this thread?),…..

    As one of the few members here (maybe the only) who is licensed to do anything with explosives except sell it,………you don’t yell pull before a blast.

    I had told him on the poll thread he started that the building wasn’t set with explosives.

    Pull
    Last edited by S Landreth; 24-06-2017 at 05:47 AM.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Now 'pull' is used in demolition terms not finance term which is what Larry is involved in.
    Pull

    I stated this before on one of this idiots (Albert Shagnastier) threads (maybe this thread?),…..

    As one of the few members here (maybe the only) who is licensed to do anything with explosives except sell it,………you don’t yell pull before a blast.

    I had told him on the poll thread he started that the building wasn’t set with explosives.

    Pull
    As an expert on explosives, would you say categorically that building 7 as seen in the clip below did not fall because of explosives?


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    Crestofawave can you delete the 's' at the end of 'http' before you 'copy' as this will centralize your video when 'paste'-ing. Thanks. I'm not a 'mod'. I just like a clean house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    AIG insurance of the WTC purchased just 6 weeks ago

    Was the insurance due for renewal anyway? Was there some change in the policy?

    I would assume the law requires occupied buildings to have liability cover.
    The WTC was purchased by Lucky Larry just 6 weeks ago. "Lucky" - because 911 was the only day when he and his daughter did not breakfasted there - appointment at a doctor...

    And read the links (and many others) who and what everything were residing in the WT7, about his fradulent insurer AIG and more then 20 other insurers. And all the interesting connections...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Crestofawave can you delete the 's' at the end of 'http' before you 'copy' as this will centralize your video when 'paste'-ing. Thanks. I'm not a 'mod'. I just like a clean house.
    Apologies Pragmatic but when I removed the 's' as previously advised, Firefox and Google Chrome told me TD was an unsafe site and refused to allow me to post.
    So I'm sticking to the left for now.






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    Question:
    How can an aluminium plane slice through a concrete and steel building?

    Answer:
    It can't.


    Last edited by ENT; 24-06-2017 at 07:56 AM.

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    Question:
    How do two concrete and steel towers collapse after 1 and 2 hours burning?

    Answer:
    They can not.



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    The planes and pilots.


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    Passengers?



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    Sadly that video above is really just a repeat of the one above it ENT. It's been proposed that all the passengers from the 4 flights were taken to Cleveland Hopkins airport- see the enclosed report and video. What happened to them afterwards is anyone's guess but it can't be good.



    Phil Jayhan: The "4" Flights of 9/11 ? What Happened to the Passengers?

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    crestofwave,

    Please delete the "s" in the "https" when you post a youtube link. It will position your youtube embeds better.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestofawave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Crestofawave can you delete the 's' at the end of 'http' before you 'copy' as this will centralize your video when 'paste'-ing. Thanks. I'm not a 'mod'. I just like a clean house.
    Apologies Pragmatic but when I removed the 's' as previously advised, Firefox and Google Chrome told me TD was an unsafe site and refused to allow me to post.
    So I'm sticking to the left for now.
    Yes, this seems...odd.

    Anyway, certainly on 'Chrome' you can access a site marked in this way just by clicking on the 'options' and then on 'proceed'.

    But the idea this is linked to the 's' is really strange.

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    Well this is the conspiracy nutters thread... it's the NSA, watching him because their cover up is being leaked

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Question:
    How can an aluminium plane slice through a concrete and steel building?

    Answer:
    It can't.
    It can, you utter dunce.

    Planes are not made of ordinary aluminium....it is an alloy of other metals mixed in, which gives it incredible strength. Would you be flying back and forth from New Zealand in a plane with wings which had an internal structure made of ordinary aluminium ? I don't think so.

    Aluminum alloy 1100 is essentially pure aluminum, and has many uses when higher strength is not needed.

    6061-T6 is a medium strength alloy, about 3 times stronger than pure aluminum (Fty=35ksi). This is just about equal to the Fty=36ksi strength of ASTM A36 structural steel used for I-bejams in buildings.

    2024-T3 and 7050-T7 are two very high strength alloys about twice as strong as 6061-T6.


    Plus, due to their speed, those planes had incredible momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Well this is the conspiracy nutters thread... it's the NSA, watching him because their cover up is being leaked
    Come on Ant-answer the questions:
    How could the single propeller, very amateur trainees fly jets with such finesse?
    How could the towers collapse just as in a demolition? Towers on fire tend to break up over time, not go staaaaaaaight down.
    How could so many passengers make mobile phone calls? Impossible at that height and speed.
    This is a time for Johnny Nash and i'll try to centralize the video though my heart is on the left

    .

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    Those questions - and more - have been answered repeatedly in this thread. You just have no interest in any answers that don't fit your narrative. It's called confirmation bias.

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