Thread: Iran - the next US target?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

it was Dubya's fault all the way

about time you said something sensible.

MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran's borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.


"The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran," the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.


He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran "that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost."


He also said the U.S. Naval presence in the Persian Gulf has for the first time in the past four years reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.


Col.-Gen. Leonid Ivashov, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran's military infrastructure in the near future.
A new U.S. carrier battle group has been dispatched to the Gulf.


The USS John C. Stennis, with a crew of 3,200 and around 80 fixed-wing aircraft, including F/A-18 Hornet and Superhornet fighter-bombers, eight support ships and four nuclear submarines are heading for the Gulf, where a similar group led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has been deployed since December 2006.


The U.S. is also sending Patriot anti-missile systems to the region.

Link: RIA Novosti - Russia - Russian intelligence sees U.S. military buildup on Iran border

Well, what's the latest on the Brit hostages?
We don't go in there and rescue them properly (not like that miserable peanut-farmer attempted to do), it'll be another major embaresment for the West...

^ Won't have to rescue them.

The sailors are just being used as pawns in a chess game.

This is in no way related to the 1979 Hostage Crisis in the U.S.

Apples and Oranges.

A femail will be released soon.

This is just a game.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, what's the latest on the Brit hostages?

They are not "hostages", it's Brit military apprehended during an illegal operation in Iran waters.
Should be kept and tried under observation of the UN Charter.

It was funny to see the British and American governments complain about them being blindfolded after they tore up the Geneva Convention (describing it as "quaint"). I'd rather be blindfold than suffer sensory deprivation beatings and sexual torture in a legal balck hole in Afghanistan or Cuba. Hypocrits and fools !

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, what's the latest on the Brit hostages?

They are not "hostages", it's Brit military apprehended during an illegal operation in Iran waters.
Should be kept and tried under observation of the UN Charter.

Its not really clear where they were. We can only say with certainty that they had, at least, strayed dangerously close to Iranian waters.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

There just isn't the will amongst the American population for further conflict.

Who decides, the population or the pres?

Originally Posted by mad_dog

I don't think even the those mutha fuckers in the White House could be that stupid....

Umm, making an educated guess based on empirical data, I would say...

I hope you are right.

Whatever the US public might know or think, the US military is already showing signs of strain. Recruitment is getting harder, reserve forces are being deployed where they should not be, and so on. And the US public is getting more disillusioned.
A ground invasion of Iran would be lunacy. Don't forget Shia Iraq (who run the security forces now), Hezbollah and Hamas.
A missile strike is feasible, but that also would release mayhem in the Middle East. So I bet against it, but then again I thought the build up of US forces prior to the invasion of Iraq was a bluff too.
Whether it's colonialism, economic colonialism, energy dependency or what, trying to exert global hegemony is an expensive business.

Originally Posted by sabang

Whatever the US public might know or think, the US military is already showing signs of strain. Recruitment is getting harder, reserve forces are being deployed where they should not be, and so on. And the US public is getting more disillusioned.
A ground invasion of Iran would be lunacy. Don't forget Shia Iraq (who run the security forces now), Hezbollah and Hamas.
A missile strike is feasible, but that also would release mayhem in the Middle East

There will not be a ground invasion of Iran, IMO.

Perhaps the troops that are at the border are there as a door-stop.


If there is military action it will be in the form of air-strikes, laser guided "smart bombs" hitting the nuke sites and certain apparatuses.


Who's in charge? The Executive. No one can stop him, Constitutionally.


Hard to say what will happen, if anything.

And I agree, it would enrage and aggravate the Middle East, which is pretty complicated right now (as it's always been).

Yes it is, but still all the arab countrys know that the persians want to control the whole of the mid east and especially the oil producing countrys , That was clear while the Shah was still in control, and since the shah has been out they have wanted to smoke Israel too, which they will try to do and most likely get some nukes to think about.
No Iran is safe as long as they don't get to foxy and start something.

Whackjob's flexing his ability to confound the West while demonstrating to the world that democratic niceties leave civilised society weak, impotent, and being bogged down in Iraq has it unable and unwilling if not shuddering at his offer to open up another, more intransigent, resilient and fanatical front.

The hostages are unlikely to be physically harmed, but they will be systematically humiliated as the Brit authorities are made to sing and dance and leap through lots of hoops before the renegade regime grudgingly hands them back.

Importantly, the West is rapidly losing the last vestige of control in the region, and desperation leads to unpredictability.

Originally Posted by keda

The hostages are unlikely to be physically harmed, but they will be systematically humiliated as the Brit authorities are made to sing and dance and leap through lots of hoops before the renegade regime grudgingly hands them back.

Well, let's hope they are not beheaded and dragged behind some vehicle in another 'propaganda' ploy. Anther reason for Blair and Bush to fully 'grow a pair' and serve justice whether it's increased sanctions or Thomahawks...

Interesting in that it seems Brits now don't seem to like Ahmadinejad.

I'd like to see a little humiliation of some of the captives.


The Brits in the pubs I frequent might tame their tone, a tad.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Interesting in that it seems Brits now don't seem to like Ahmadinejad.

I'd like to see a little humiliation of some of the captives.


The Brits in the pubs I frequent might tame their tone, a tad.

I think Ahmadinejad is ok.I just hope he doesn't sink to the American's torturing POWs ways.

Looks to me like from what I hear, ain't been in Bagdad for some years now, but seems to me that everyone that has been taken by the opposition, even their own people have suffered some heavy duty torture with a drill motor and other devises before they got a bullet behind the ear or their head removed while still alive, for you M.D.

What does the treatment of 'captives' by terrorists and insurgents in Iraq have to do with the Iranian government?
Have any POW in Iran been tortured or decapitated?

True, true, civilised people indeed that have never beheaded or tortured anyone, erm, POWs, not that they've owned too many unless we count the Iraqi POWs who as we know were so well treated that when it came time to be repatriated they petitioned the ayatolah to keep them a bit longer.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^I think they are trying to sort out the current fiasco and finally dealing with a major instigator: Iran.

Iran is just a minor player in Iraq. The real instigator and occupier is the US.