Rabid right-wing bloggers exposed and humiliated!!!

**stroller** · 22-01-2007, 06:44 PM

US right-wing bloggers have long proven to be nothing but hate-spewing thugs, the truth is revealed:

Packs of right-wing bloggers spent the last several weeks trying to destroy the credibility of Associated Press's war reporting
...
And within the last twelve hours, multiple people have written comprehensively about the profound and long overdue humiliation which these right-wing bloggers just suffered. Greg Sargent re-caps how this incident exposes - yet again - the complete lack of credibility of the reckless, truth-free lynch mobs that compose the "right-wing blogosphere" and which hilariously see themselves as watchdogs over the media even though they traffic in the most reckless innuendo, gossip, and rank, error-plagued speculation that exists.

Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald: The "credibility" of the right-wing blogosphere

**El Gibbon** · 23-01-2007, 10:15 AM

^ Thanks for posting the link, interesting reading no matter your political stance. Seems all these folks are wannabe Rush Limbaughs.

There is an interesting line developing between mainstream news, mainstream political commentary and the blogisphere.

With no real supervision or measureable standards, anyone with an agenda can publish whatever trash "they" see fit.

It is not only the strident right that deals in this shit. Take for instance the "leak" that Obama attended a jihadist school.

Seems you have to be a mystic or read everything on both sides of an issue to get anywhere near the true story. In a past life I mediated some very strident arguments. The first thing I would tell both parties was that they were both lying to some extent and the truth lay somewhere in between the two points. It (the truth) may be closer to one than the other but assuredly it was somewhere 'between' the two sides.

E. G.

**man with no head** · 23-01-2007, 03:25 PM

The key to wading through the trash is to do research.

Just because it's posted on someone's blog doesn't make it even remotely credible. And simply reposting a link to someone's blog really is a waste of everyone's time.

**ChiangMai noon** · 23-01-2007, 05:14 PM

Oh dear.
poor Boon Mee's world is collapsing.

**Anonymous Coward** · 23-01-2007, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

And simply reposting a link to someone's blog really is a waste of everyone's time.

Could you repeat this loudly and clearly and make sure that everyone who knows my e-mail address gets the message....

**stroller** · 23-01-2007, 06:04 PM

Curious that noone noticed that I quoted from a 'left-wing' blog! I thought that was funny, ironic.

Not that I disagree with what's been said...

**man with no head** · 23-01-2007, 06:12 PM

I saw the word 'blog' in the URL and ignored it.

Blogs suck period. It's as if a massive collective of AOL users got ahold of proper writing techniques and threw them out the window. Really the second worst possible use for the internet.

I really wish we had a rule here about no links to blogs whatsoever.

**stroller** · 23-01-2007, 06:24 PM

That was discussed before, they vary in quality, and some other sources are just as unreliable.

-opinions vary as to which ones.

**man with no head** · 23-01-2007, 07:18 PM

If it's on a blog, and, there's actually a source for the blog to quote then perhaps the poster should not post the link to the blog and should instead post his or her opinion with links to the source.

Nah, too much trouble for some people.

**raycarey** · 23-01-2007, 10:54 PM

how do you define 'blogger'?

IMO a political blogger is either:

1. some jackass who still lives in his parents' basement and has an internet connection and a grudge/obsession. the few dollars he's making are from google....and his parents

2. propagandists for special interest groups--plenty of boonie's links are simply carrying water for the radical conservative agenda. once in a while it filters up to foxnews and the washington times, and then finally to the regular media.

but it gets muddier after that. what about this guy kos? he's making a real salary, and he has credibility and influence in some circles.

and there's a column i occasionally cite from the washington post named 'white house daily briefing'....however, the column never appears in the print edition of the paper.

**Boon Mee** · 24-01-2007, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Oh dear.
poor Boon Mee's world is collapsing.

Doubt it.
The majority of left-wing blogs are even more virulent and hate-spewing than any Rush Limbaugh can imagine...

**stroller** · 24-01-2007, 10:10 AM

There's always someone worse, isn't there?

**Begbie** · 24-01-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Oh dear.
poor Boon Mee's world is collapsing.

Doubt it.
The majority of left-wing blogs are even more virulent and hate-spewing than any Rush Limbaugh can imagine...

Got a link for that ?

**Boon Mee** · 25-01-2007, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Oh dear.
poor Boon Mee's world is collapsing.

Doubt it.
The majority of left-wing blogs are even more virulent and hate-spewing than any Rush Limbaugh can imagine...

Got a link for that ?

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

**Boon Mee** · 25-01-2007, 12:56 AM

Here's one of the worst: The Smirking Chimp - News And Commentary from the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy

**Little Chuchok** · 25-01-2007, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's one of the worst: The Smirking Chimp - News And Commentary from the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy

they look pretty much on the ball to me...

Hey, Gang of 500 - Fox News is Not a Real News Outlet

by Cenk Uygur | Jan 24 2007 - 1:15pm | permalink
article tools: email | print | read more Cenk Uygur
This blog post was put together by a number of people in the progressive movement who believe that journalism matters and that Fox News Channel does great disservice to the institution of the media (perhaps intentionally) by pretending to be legitimate members of the press (hence, I agree completely with this post, but this is not solely my work):
The who guide Washington DC's conventional wisdom.
The message: Fox News is and deserves zero respect as a news outlet.
At the end of this post, I ask you to share your ideas on how we can send that message. Should Democratic politicians refuse to go on Fox? Should news viewers pressure the White House Correspondents' Association (202-452-4836) to deny membership to Fox? Should the DNC (202-863-8000) deny Fox floor rights at the 2008 convention? Should Fox advertisers be denied our dollars?
As you ponder those questions, I'll give credit where credit is due - to Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz for being among the first of 500 to directly call out Fox for "raising questions about journalistic behavior."
Moonlighting on CNN this Monday, that "a little-known conservative magazine" published a story "based entirely on unnamed sources" alleging that Senator Obama was schooled in a Muslim madrassa. "Fox News channel touted the claims on two programs," Kurtz said and showed a clip of Fox talking about the "outing" of Obama's "madrassa past."
"As we now know, there is no madrassa past," Kurtz concluded. "This, unfortunately, is how the media food chain works. A bogus charge appears on some magazine or on some website and works its way up to bigger news outlets - all based on little or no evidence."
He was so close to getting the story 100% right. But, Howard, Fox is not a "bigger news outlet." That would require it to be a news outlet. Next time, try "bigger tabloids posing as news outlets."
Wolf Blitzer came on screen and made up for Kurtz's mistake, saying, "CNN did what any serious news organization is supposed to do in this situation - we actually conducted an exclusive first-hand investigation." to see the playground and classrooms Obama went to as a 6-year old, and the school's administrator talking about religious tolerance.
One final note: Kurtz reports that "Fox News executive Bill Shine says some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions." But those hosts' fake mea culpa on Monday, one says "We were reporting a story from Insight magazine" and another says, "That's what it says in Insight magazine, so we reported that..."
The third host says, "Senator Obama was on our show when his book came out and we would love to have him back...Come back, Senator Obama." Should he? How do you think we should send a meaningful signal that Fox is not a real news outlet? Share your thoughts here...

**Boon Mee** · 25-01-2007, 03:05 AM

And at Huffington Post, your one-stop shop for leftist lunacy, we see why Markos “Screw Them” Moulitsas was able to get away with an ugly remark about civialian contractors killed in Fallujah—because Markos is not the only one who thinks that way: Private Security Company Helicopter Shot Down Over Baghdad...5 Civilians Killed...

**Mr Earl** · 26-01-2007, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by stroller

Curious that noone noticed that I quoted from a 'left-wing' blog! I thought that was funny, ironic.

Do we really need to belabor the obvious?

Not that I disagree with what's been said...

since none of it is verifiable what's to agree or disagree?

Carping is carping from whichever side it's coming from!

**stroller** · 26-01-2007, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

since none of it is verifiable what's to agree or disagree?

Of course "it" is verifiable, the facts the opinions expressed are based on. You cannot disagree with facts, but dispute them, opinions you may agree or disagree with.

But rather than making the effort to research the facts and comment on them, I simply linked to a blog.
Leave it to those who disagree with the opinion to research and prove the blog wrong, which noone has done - hardly surprising.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Carping is carping from whichever side it's coming from!

I am glad you realise this now...

**raycarey** · 29-01-2007, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The majority of left-wing blogs are even more virulent and hate-spewing than any Rush Limbaugh can imagine.

what you fail to grasp boonie, is that no one on this board (that i've seen) has ever posted a link to the daily kos or the smirking chimp....you, however, have included yet another link to the little green footballs site (LGF).

For "promoting Israel and Zionism" and "presenting Israel's side of the conflict," LGF won the "Best Israel Advocacy Blog" award from the Jerusalem Post in 2005.[2] Gil Ronen, a reporter for Israel National News, has written:[3] If anyone ever compiles a list of Internet sites that contribute to Israel's public relations effort, [Charles] Johnson's site will probably come in first, far above the Israeli Foreign Ministry's site.

In the United States, LGF is perhaps best known for playing a key role in exposing the forged Killian documents about President Bush,[4][5] that preceded the resignation of CBS' Dan Rather.

Bill O'Reilly and other high-profile conservative pundits have praised LGF

Little Green Footballs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Wallace** · 29-01-2007, 10:23 AM

I don't know, Ray, why bother with the BBC when you get all the news from the Huffington Post or LGF. Now, where's that link..........

**raycarey** · 29-01-2007, 03:49 PM

Jeffrey T. Kuhner, whose Web site published the first anonymous smear of the 2008 presidential race, is hardly the only editor who will not reveal his reporters’ sources. What sets him apart is that he will not even disclose the names of his reporters.

But their anonymity has not stopped them from making an impact. In the last two weeks, Mr. Kuhner’s Web site, Insight, the last remnant of a defunct conservative print magazine owned by the Unification Church led by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, was able to set off a wave of television commentary, talk-radio chatter, official denials, investigations by journalists around the globe and news media self-analysis that has lasted 11 days and counting.

The controversy started with a quickly discredited Jan. 17 article on the Insight Web site asserting that the presidential campaign of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was preparing an accusation that her rival, Senator Barack Obama, had covered up a brief period he had spent in an Islamic religious school in Indonesia when he was 6.

(Other news organizations have confirmed Mr. Obama’s descriptions of the school as a secular public school. Both senators have denounced the report, and there is no evidence that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign planned to spread those accusations.)

In an interview Sunday, Mr. Kuhner, 37, said he still considered the article, which he said was meant to focus on the thinking of the Clinton campaign, to be “solid as solid can be.” But he declined to say whether he had learned the identity of his reporter’s sources, and so perhaps only that reporter knows the origin of the article’s anonymous quotes and assertions. Its assertions about Mr. Obama resemble rumors passed on without evidence in e-mail messages that have been widely circulated over the last several weeks.

Feeding Frenzy for a Big Story, Even if It’s False - New York Times

**raycarey** · 31-01-2007, 10:54 AM

in this video jon stewart exposes and humiliates fauxnews and their role in duping the likes of boonie....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/...-Obama-FOX.wmv

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