Man Attempts to Set Off Explosives on Northwest Airlines Plane

Federal officials and police are interviewing a Nigerian man, who allegedly tried to "explode" a powdery substance aboard a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, injuring himself and two other passengers, law enforcement officials said.

The man said he was directed by al Qaeda to explode a small device in flight, over U.S. soil, ABC News has learned. Authorities have no corroboration of that information, and the credibility of the suspect's statements are being questioned, officials said.

The man was apparently already on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists, according to a senior intelligence official.

"The subject is claiming to have extremist affiliation and that the device was acquired in Yemen along with instructions as to when it should be used," a federal situational awareness bulletin stated.

The suspect told authorities that he had explosive powder taped to his leg and used a syringe of chemicals to mix with the powder that was to cause explosion. This is of concert because it is a method of mixing that is consistent with terror techniques.

link: Explosives on Northwest Airlines Plane from Amsterdam to Detroit - ABC News

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The man was apparently already on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists, according to a senior intelligence official.

So much for all their pre checking passengers and homeland security bullshit.

this explains it, two dept's not talking to each other.

Hello? It's nearly 2010!

The suspect had been in a law enforcement-intelligence database but was not on the government's no-fly list, according to a law enforcement official.

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The government had no immediate plans after the incident to raise the threat level, a federal government source said.

Looks like this is a yet another news item blown out of all proportion to what actually went on.

Good thing it was America and not Britain. In Britain the passengers who bravely intervened would have been charged with assault and sent to prison.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8430612.stm

Detroit airliner incident 'was failed bomb attack'

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An incident on an airliner arriving in the US city of Detroit from Amsterdam in the Netherlands was a failed bomb attack, senior US officials say.
Sources say a man injured himself trying to ignite an explosive device on the jet with 278 passengers on board but nobody else was seriously hurt.
In custody, the suspect said he had been acting on behalf of al-Qaeda, a police source told AP news agency.
President Barack Obama has ordered increased security for air travel.
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Eyewitness aboard the jet

The White House spokesman Bill Burton said the president was monitoring the situation.
US and Dutch media report that the suspect is a Nigerian national studying in London.
Northwest Airlines Flight 253 had been coming in to land at Detroit Metropolitan Airport on Friday afternoon when the incident occurred.
'Taped to his leg'
Reports quote officials as saying the suspect seems to have tried to ignite some kind of incendiary device.
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A passenger said the man had been severely burned on one leg, and a fire extinguisher was used at one point.
Another passenger, Syed Jafri, told AP he had been seated three rows behind the suspect and had seen a glow and noticed a smoke smell.
Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him".
"Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," Mr Jafri added.
As the suspect was being tackled, he was reportedly shouting and a passenger said she had heard the word "Afghanistan".
Another unnamed passenger heard a "little pop", then saw "a bit of a smoke and then some flames".
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After "yelling and screaming", the passenger added, "they took him out and it was really quick".
The suspect later told the US authorities he had had explosive powder taped to his leg and used a syringe of chemicals to mix with the powder that was to cause explosion, the ABC television network reports.
Another US intelligence official quoted by AP said an explosive device had been used consisting of a "mix of powder and liquid".
Peter King, who sits on the US House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee, reported details of the incident in interviews for US TV channels.
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"He [the suspect] has third-degree burns," he said.
Mr King, a New York Republican, said the suspect appeared to have "al-Qaeda connections, certainly extremist terrorist connections".
The FBI and the Federal Aviation Administration are investigating, and a robot was used to check the plane at one stage.
At least one passenger was taken to the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor.

Terrible .

Terrible events in todays society.

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The man was apparently already on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists, according to a senior intelligence official.

So much for all their pre checking passengers and homeland security bullshit.

Well, like, the plane started in like Nigeria so like Homeland Security don't have to much authority down there...

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Well, like, the plane started in like Nigeria

and like , we have yet another glimpse into your comprehension and logic process.

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so like Homeland Security don't have to much authority down there...

Thank God....

But does homeland have any say in your countries airline passengers?

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so like Homeland Security don't have to much authority down there...

Thank God....

But does homeland have any say in your countries airline passengers?

Haven't seen too many of them hanging around Swampy lately. Having said that, I saw that this guy was on a watchlist so actually, the all-powerful Homeland Security should have picked up on this POS.:)

should be one airline for muslims and one airline for non muslims.

..... and yes, he is a muslim.

Christmas is a good time for a terror attack that will be remembered by many on each anniversary. New Year and other celebrated occasions are also good.

Not surprising that some apportion blame from the comfort of a keyboard, yet these will often be among the first to howl at profiling and other efforts that breach privacy, civil liberty and human rights.

Anyway, I hope they give the suspect the best available treatment for his 3rd degree burns after he is mirandised, otherwise we'll soon be debating his civil suit.

Just an opinion,…………….

Not So Scary “Terror”

Obviously, people shouldn’t be lighting anything on fire inside airplanes. That said, all the big Christmas airline incident really shows to me is how little punch our dread terrorist adversaries really pack. Once again, this seems like a pretty unserious plot. And even if you did manage to blow up an airplane in mid-air, that would be both a very serious crime and a great tragedy, but hardly a first-order national security threat.

And then there’s Peter King:

“This was the real deal,” said Representative Peter T. King of New York, the ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, who was briefed on the incident and said something had gone wrong with the explosive device, which he described as somewhat sophisticated. “This could have been devastating,” Mr. King said.

Ultimately, it does no favors to anyone to blow this sort of thing out of proportion. The United States could not, of course, be “devastated” by anything resembling this scheme. We ought to be clear on that fact. We want to send the message around the world that this sort of vile attempt to slaughter innocent people is not, at the end of the day, anything resembling a serious challenge to American power. It’s attempted murder, it’s wrong, we should try to stop it, but it’s really not much more than that.

Link: http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/12/not-so-scary-terror.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&u tm_campaign=Feed%3A+matthewyglesias+%28Matthew+Ygl esias%29

terrorist came from London base as usual

BBC News - Met Police search London flat in US plane attack probe https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2009/12/1286.jpg Forensic officers have been searching the mansion block in central London

Police are conducting searches at a mansion block in London in connection with the inquiry into an attempted act of terrorism on a US passenger plane.
Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a Nigerian being held after the flight to Detroit, is thought to have been a student at University College London.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK would take "whatever action was necessary" to protect passengers.
UK airport operator BAA said searches for flights to the US would increase.
BAA said: "Passengers travelling to the United States should expect their airline to carry out additional security checks prior to boarding."
Meanwhile, a statement on the British Airways website said Washington has revised its security arrangements for all travellers to the US and they would only be allowed one piece of hand luggage.
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Gordon Brown

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US probes flight 'terror attack'

A BA spokesman said the directive meant US-bound passengers on all airlines would be subjected to additional screening.
"We apologise to passengers for any delays to their journeys. Safety and security are our top priorities and will not be compromised."
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Passengers on the Northwest Airlines Flight 253 operated by Delta say a man was overpowered on Christmas Day after trying to ignite an explosive device as the Airbus 330 approached Detroit from Amsterdam.
According to reports in the US, Mr Abdulmutallab has links to al-Qaeda.
UCL said it had a record of a student with a name similar to the man being questioned in the US.
A spokesperson said that while the name Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab did not appear in its records, a student called Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was enrolled on a mechanical engineering course between September 2005 and June 2008.
It added: "It must be stressed that the university has no evidence that this is the same person currently being referred to in the media."
BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said the British authorities were informed of a possible connection to the UK on Thursday evening.
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The MI5 and police teams assigned to the case are trying ascertain whether Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is the same person, he added.
It is understood one of their key priorities will also be to check whether the arrested man has cropped up in the course of any other investigations.
The prime minister said he had been in contact with Sir Paul Stephenson, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, because of the "serious potential threat".
Mr Brown said: "The security of the public must always be our primary concern.
"We have been working closely with the US authorities investigating this incident since it happened."
£1.5m flats
BBC News correspondent Richard Slee said there was fairly low-key police activity at the last known address of Mr Abdulmutallab, a basement flat in a mansion block near Harley Street in central London.
Reporting from the scene, he said police forensic officers have been seen going into the building on Mansfield Street.
Flats in the building sell for between £1.5m and £2.5m and residents are now asking how a student could afford to live in such an exclusive location, our correspondent said.
A blue English Heritage plaque states that philanthropist Sir Robert Mayer once lived there.
The Metropolitan Police said its officers were liaising with the US authorities.
A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said: "Searches are being carried out at addresses in central London."

he came from Londonistan the terror base

what will they do when they hide the explosives in their rectum ?

First Fort Hood and now this. Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation. They were afraid of the Bush / Cheney duo!

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I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation. They were afraid of the Bush / Cheney duo!

Every kunt was afraid of those two psychopaths mate

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what will they do when they hide the explosives in their rectum ?

This is a very good question as they already have but not blown a plane up with this method, only a matter of time I should think

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he came from Londonistan the terror base

And most likely quite misunderstood.:rolleyes:

With a little counsling and a stint in Club Gitmo...oh, that's right - Gitmo is closing ...so, they'll keep him out of the general population at some other country-club federal prison and after a few years repatriot him to a island paradise like so many others recently let loose. Heaven forbid the authorities perform 'torture' on the prick like a little water boarding to determine who else is coming our way, eh?:mid:

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First Fort Hood and now this. Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation. They were afraid of the Bush / Cheney duo!

The signs were in place pre-Fort Hood that Nidal was a jihadist, though nobody was prepared to risk 'offence' and compromise their career by sticking their neck out...esp under the current US-hating admin. It's telling that until the fateful day, Nidal was guilty of no crime and the entire saga could just as easily have been a staged controversy. Nothing new, and that's the type of conundrum facing Western security services daily; act too early and be mocked on the way to court, or a moment too late and be accused of ignoring the "obvious" signs.

Still, Fort Hood as a jihad attack was quickly dismissed out of hand by the Anointed One and his cohorts in the Zionist-controlled media, so that's ok then. Otoh, it'll be interesting to see how they wriggle out of this one, esp since it has been revealed that for about a year prior to the attack Nidal had been in communication with a known radical imam, during which he asked for guidance about killing American military personnel.

Fort Hood: Hasan Asked Awlaki If It Was Okay to Kill American Soldiers - ABC News

Expect the peacelovers to be emboldened by your President's naivete, timidity, and cooperation.

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what will they do when they hide the explosives in their rectum ?

This is a very good question as they already have but not blown a plane up with this method, only a matter of time I should think

Yup, our guardians did real well by prohibiting liquid on planes, except of course there are any number of liquids on every flight, and no way they can prevent a determined passenger from concealing volatile liquids on his person or hand luggage anyway. Cavity searches next? - will that deter a determined passenger from anything but the giggles?

Let's hope the knee-jerks (sic) don't now go overboard by banning harmless chemicals in all three states, including those that can be purchased in any supermarket and combined with other as harmless chemicals to bring down an airliner.

No credit to Western security agencies for this failed attempt. As with the 'shoe bomber' and many other failures, had the terrorists used quality product and mechanics, every one of these operations would have been successful and with devastating consequences.

Sure Islamic terror has won, and a long time back, though expedience prevents Western leaders from conceding just yet.

to be honest this 'attack' seems more like a mentally impaired fellow, than a terrorist mastermind...

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should be one airline for muslims and one airline for non muslims.

..... and yes, he is a muslim.

So no more Emirates, Etihad, Gulf Air et al flights for me then? Is there an atheist/agnostic airline? :mid:

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what will they do when they hide the explosives in their rectum ?

they will blow it out their arse of course.

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Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation.

yep , not long before that sand nigger hijacks air force 1 and dive bombs it into a church full of kittens singing hymns, eating big macs and watching oprah on television.

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Let's hope the knee-jerks (sic) don't now go overboard by banning harmless chemicals in all three states, including those that can be purchased in any supermarket and combined with other as harmless chemicals to bring down an airliner.

Probably be a noticed increase in airport security again, only takes one prat to fcuk it up for the rest.

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

Domestic - 2 hrs before departure
International - 3 hrs before departure
International to USA - 4 hrs before departure

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should be one airline for muslims and one airline for non muslims.

..... and yes, he is a muslim.

Dirty racist Islamophobe! Don't you foking know Islam is a the religion of peace.

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That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

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That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office.

Ft Hood isn't being treated as a terrorist attack according to the FBI. It has characterized now as a "horrific out burst of violence".
Times have changed from all that nasty George W. Bush hate mongering against Muslims.

For some reason :rolleyes:, Obama is so afraid to say the word terrorist. If Osama Bin Laden parked a van full of explosives in front of building he would scream illegal parking violation. :)

WASHINGTON -- A 23-year-old Nigerian man was charged Saturday with trying to destroy a Northwest Airlines flight with a powerful explosive device attached to his body as the jetliner approached the Detroit airport on Christmas Day.

When Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab set off the device he sparked a fire instead of an explosion, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Detroit.

Passengers told federal investigators that Abdulmutallab went to the bathroom for about 20 minutes. When he returned to his seat, he said he had an upset stomach and pulled a blanket over him. Passengers then heard a popping noise, similar to a firecracker. They smelled an odor and some passengers saw Abdulmutallab's pant leg and the wall of the airplane on fire.

A passenger told federal investigators that Abdulmutallab was holding a partially melted syringe that was smoking.

A preliminary analysis of the device shows that it contained PETN, also known as pentaerythritol. Convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid used this material when he tried to destroy a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001 with explosives hidden in his shoes.

One law enforcement official told The Associated Press that the suspect had used a condom or condom-like bag to hide the PETN near his genitals. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Link: http://www.miamiherald.com/692/story/1399151.html

Airline bomber was barred from Britain

Former student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who allegedly attempted to blow up US jet, had UK visa request refused in May

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Abdul Umar Mutallab pictured in 2004 on a Duke of Edinburgh Award test in Togo.

David Leppard and Chris Gourlay

div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;} THE son of a prominent Nigerian banker, who allegedly attempted to blow up a transatlantic flight over America, was barred from returning to Britain earlier this year.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, graduated from a university in London last year but his visa request was refused in May when he attempted to apply for a new course at a bogus college.
Abdulmutallab, described as a devout Muslim, attempted to ignite an explosive device on a plane from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day after shouting about Afghanistan.Bomb materials had apparently been sewn into his underwear, an authoritative American report said.
The incident led to increased security at UK airports and delays of up to five hours for passengers in Britain yesterday.

For the past two years Abdulmutallab has been on a United States watchlist for people known to have extremist links, but he was not prevented from flying to America. UK officials indicated that he had passed across MI5’s radar but was not deemed sufficiently threatening to warrant surveillance.
Abdulmutallab began his journey in Nigeria and then changed planes in Amsterdam. Peter King, a Republican congressman, claimed he did not go through full-body image screening at either airport.
All airlines flying to America have now imposed heightened security, including “pat-down” checks for all passengers and a hand luggage check at the gate.
Abdulmutallab was from a privileged background. His father, Dr Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was until recently the head of First Bank of Nigeria and had been a government minister during the 1970s.
Abdulmutallab studied engineering for three years at University College London. His father said yesterday that he had lost contact with his son after he left London in November last year.
He attempted to return to Britain for a six-month course in May this year but was refused by officials from the UK Border Agency.
“He was refused entry on grounds that he was applying to study at an educational establishment that we didn’t consider to be genuine,” a Whitehall official said.

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Dr Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was until recently the head of First Bank of Nigeria

Wait, I know this guy. He is always sending me emails about millions of dollars I am entitled to in an unclaimed inheritance. :)

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Is there an atheist/agnostic airline? :mid:

until the radical islam minority is alienated, shunned and disowned by the middle of the road islam majority, and the middle of the roaders convincingly express their desire and wish to integrate with the communities they live in and to reject extremists and their views, i would think a complete separation of islam and the rest of the world would be better for us all.

all we hear from them is a deafening silence, as extremists are free to shout, scream, terrorise and bomb the rest of us with their threats and medieval pronouncements.

it is a nasty and dangerous philosophy they preach and sadly, they are not confronted by their own people nor are they challenged often enough by the politically correct west, who receive them with their inane simpering and their patronising "inclusiveness" and multiculturality.

we are allowing a mighty and dangerous rod to be made for our own backs.

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First Fort Hood and now this. Seems the US was safer before that wimpy Obama got in the White House. That makes two terrorist attacks since he got in office. I guess the Mussies know who they can muscle without the fear of retaliation. They were afraid of the Bush / Cheney duo!

Are you on drugs?

Also, why should all muslims be banned from flying? Surely it would be better to just stop all Nigerians from leaving Nigeria?

Hatred is the mother of invention

sunday times

The underwear bomber shows how extremists will find new ways to beat airport

The attack on a Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas Day appears to be the latest twist in a form of terrorism that has been evolving ever since the 9/11 atrocity.
Since the twin towers of New York were destroyed in 2001, terrorists have tried to stay one step ahead of airline security in finding ways to destroy planes, from hiding bombs in their shoes — or, as last week, in their underwear — to carrying them inside their bodies.
Norman Shanks, former head of security at BAA, the airports operator, said: “September 11 was the birth of suicide bombers on planes. Up until that point the idea was that they would attack and live to attack again. Today lives are more disposable.”
In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, many of the security steps taken by airlines concentrated on securing planes from terrorists carrying knives to hijack a plane in the manner of the September 11 gang.

Cockpits were sealed off and passengers forbidden from carrying blades on planes.
The first attempt to use an alternative method — still apparently with suicide in mind — came just three months after the September 11 bombings. Richard Reid boarded a flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001 wearing a pair of ankle boots packed with plastic explosives.
Two and a half hours into the flight he took off the boots and quietly prayed, before trying to detonate the bombs.

He struggled to do so and after lighting six matches he found he had inadvertently melted the fuses attached to the plastic explosives hidden in the hollowed-out soles of the boots. An FBI reconstruction of what would have happened if Reid’s bomb had detonated showed that the blast would have blown a hole in the aircraft and caused catastrophic damage. Everyone on board would have died.

Unlike the privileged Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the banker’s son and University College London graduate charged with attempting to bomb the Amsterdam-Detroit flight, Reid was a petty crook who grew up in Bromley, south London. He had a disaffected childhood and became a disciple of Osama Bin Laden after being introduced to Islam at the Feltham young offenders’ institution in west London.

Since 9/11 two such attacks have been successful. In August 2004 two Chechen women, who had lost their husbands in the region’s war with Russia, blew themselves up on two planes near Moscow, killing 90 people. Investigators discovered traces of hexogen, a type of explosive previously used by Chechen bombers, in the wreckage.

In 2006 would-be suicide bombers changed their tack. A gang of British Muslim extremists plotted to blow up seven transatlantic aircraft using liquid explosives. They were arrested in August 2006 before they could carry out the attack; three of them have since been jailed.

One of the growing threats facing airline security is bombs carried inside the body, which may be able to evade conventional scanners.

In August an Al-Qaeda militant passed through several airport security checks with a bomb hidden in his rectum.
After taking two flights he detonated the device at the private palace of his target, a prominent Saudi prince. The blast blew the bomber to pieces and left his arm embedded in the ceiling but failed to kill his target.

Security officials admit there is little screening technology available to stop people hiding bombs in bodily orifices. “It’s one of the industry’s biggest concerns,” said a source.
Friday’s failed terrorist attack also bears similarities to an incident in China. During the run-up to the Beijing Olympics in March 2008, Guzalinur Turdi, 19, was arrested on a China Southern Airlines flight after crew members smelt petrol on her as she left the lavatory.
They found a drinks can containing flammable liquid in a bin in the lavatory. The drink had been replaced with the liquid using a syringe. Chinese authorities say Turdi has since confessed.

Abdulmutallab’s choice of a bottle to carry his explosives shows that the techniques used to tackle this method of attack are still inadequate.

Scanners under development include one that can analyse the contents of liquids being carried. One of the most advanced types of machine, the x-ray full body scanner, has been installed at Schiphol, from where Abdulmutallab took off, although he did not pass through it. They have also been trialled at Heathrow and Manchester airports, although no decision has yet been made on whether to install them as standard at British airports.

Concerns have been raised that they could infringe passengers’ privacy by making them appear naked.

Philip Baum, editor of Aviation Security International, said: “The events of September 11 brought the risk of suicide bombings home to the authorities. In certain parts of the Middle East people are lining up to be martyrs for their cause so it’s perfectly understandable, albeit shocking, that people in the UK might have similar beliefs.”

Professor Paul Wilkinson, a terrorism specialist at St Andrews University, said of last week’s incident: “This case reminds me of the shoe bomber. The fact he has managed to get his leg on fire after getting through security is surprising.

“Big questions will have to be asked about airport security if this was a sophisticated device.”
Additional reporting: Olivia Paterson

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to be honest this 'attack' seems more like a mentally impaired fellow, than a terrorist mastermind...

How honest, real honest or as honest as a big knob?

Did it ever cross your mind that 'terrorist masterminds' don't go on planes with destination Allah? Probably not.

Well this plane gimp could of made things a lot worse.
At least he didn't manage to pull off bringing the plane down, it was coming into land as he tried to detonate.

What concerns me more is what golden gordon was saying in response about 'doing whatever is necessary' more, security, more regulation, increased cost of flying to pay for it! :(

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Let's hope the knee-jerks (sic) don't now go overboard by banning harmless chemicals in all three states, including those that can be purchased in any supermarket and combined with other as harmless chemicals to bring down an airliner.

Probably be a noticed increase in airport security again, only takes one prat to fcuk it up for the rest.

It would not surprise me to see three seperate check in times now, lets hope not

Domestic - 2 hrs before departure
International - 3 hrs before departure
International to USA - 4 hrs before departure

They haven't figured out quite yet that airport security is good for passenger morale, but they can employ, train and deploy security on a 1-to-1 ratio with passengers and still wouldn't deter a determined terrorist from trying, or prevent him from achieving his objective.

Good thing about recent times is that plane hijackings are virtually a thing of the past. No more 'take me to Cuba', and passengers will be forgiven for no longer trusting Arab-looking gentlemen to barter them back to civilisation.