I want my own snake thread and more.

Lardivcar has his own snake thread and I'm a bit pissed off because he got his first and also got some pictures. The battery on my wife's cousin's camera is flat and her sisters no where to be found with the charger - or some shite like that.

4 am this morning I heard a strange squaking, screaming blood curdling, oh fuck, I'm dead sound; didn't think much of it as where I am in the sticks right now is in a house with no windows on the edge of the jungle...you don't want to be leaping out of bed to find out whats choking your chickens.

However, Auntie Tong; who's house it is, did leap out of bed. I think this village older folk have an innate sense when something out of the jungle has leapt on her chicken and started killing the poor fucker.

Turns out by the description of the snake it was a Burmese python - deciphered by asking it if it matched the same colour and pattern of one we spotted earlier last year during a trip up the mountains nearby (posted somewhere on this thread from foul mouth Tel https://teakdoor.com/thailands-zoos-a...our-snake.html). Asked how big the fucker was it roughly was the width of the wifes leg and she's got a bit of meat on her, bless. I can't gauge the the length of the snake as the auntie said it was coiled up choking the chicken before it saw her and horrified slithered off one way as the auntie ran the other.

Again, I'm a bit pissed off as I don't have the pictures of my Aunties bush, but I'm telling you it's a deep bush with much foilage and large trees bearing many different fruits agmonst the much fewer bamboo growing around.

Looking at the trail that that fucking snake left it would appear that it was indeed a big one - I still have the evidence to snap so will hopefully add soon.

I have never encountered the wild side of living in the sticks before so have a couple of questions as I once watched anaconda the movie - my 16 month old son will be OK won't he? It's not like he'll be wondering around my auntie's bush at 4 am in the morning is it. Where do these fuckers live? the evidence surrounding suggests the snake headed for a quite dense bit of bamboo; do pythons live in trees and drop on there prey? Or do they just relax in the comfort of the cool night until some dumb bird strolls in their path to be gobbled up?

Should someone or I catch this menace to the chickens to relocate or just plainly kill the fucker and throw it in a nice curry i.e send it to JJ's for the family?

Oh, and whats a good marinade for the chicken? The snake left it's kill and our friendly drunk neighbour chopped it's head off skinned it for our dinner. I let him keep the feet, they like that shit, I don't.

The more bit is finding a fucking Takrab in my fucking bedroom this moring in the bowl we use to wash the baby's bottles with at 9 am this morning. I dutifully chopped the 'orrible cnuting things head off and body in half and fed it to the ants outside (which is quite useful as they carry the body to the nest centre so if you hang around long enough you know wher to pour the boiling hot soapy water). My concern is......WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT DOING IN MY ROOM!!! It was a baby takarb .... BUT WTF!!! I don't like it. <---full stop

Last bit was taking the bike out after all the above and riding approx 50km up the Chiang Mai jungle on the wife's uncle bike - got to some elephant farm and forgot to reattach the key to the bike (I always forget they fall out on these older bikes). Wasn't until I got back home I realised that the key had fallen out somewhere on my trek, I did find them approx 20 km back in some pothole however. Maybe I should get in jail again and remember to recharge the batterys of that camera, had some great photos of a very untravelled area.

How do some of you posters manage in the sticks?

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No major problems if you make good use of local info.

You might consider moving. :)

But you'll get used to it after a while.

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No major problems if you make good use of local info.

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Thats the fun part.

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You might consider moving.

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Already, given other circumstances at mo

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I am, just worried about my son

Thing is, Mr Brown, most of the creepy crawlies are more interested in keeping the fok out of the way of clomping bipeds like us humans. The occasional meeting is inevitable but generally speaking they'll be on their way given half a chance. IMHO.

This thread is doomed without pictures of snakes being beheaded or violently deaded, next time use your bare hands to rip its head off then charge up your battery for the pictures.

The thread is doomed :(

That Takarb was well and truly chopped up too; I was fascinated by how far the ants carried it after assualted its still squriming body. They took the head first like some trophy.

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Thing is, Mr Brown, most of the creepy crawlies are more interested in keeping the fok out of the way of clomping bipeds like us humans. The occasional meeting is inevitable but generally speaking they'll be on their way given half a chance. IMHO.

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I have found that to be the case; but late at night I always turn the light on on the way to bathroom and say to myself that'll see that huge fucking spider again, and I do.

What do I do about the snake anyway?

WTF you doing in a village in the sticks fighting with anacondas mate?

I thought you were fighting with the venomous ones in Kao San Rd. :confused:

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I thought you were fighting with the venomous ones in Kao San Rd.

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I have...my Thai co-partner, He is also some species of snake

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I have found that to be the case; but late at night I always turn the light on on the way to bathroom and say to myself that'll see that huge fucking spider again, and I do.

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Funny, I hate spiders too. We leave the bathroom light on all night, mainly so we don't tread on the dog, but as far as spiders are concerned I made it clear that either spiders or me could live in our shed. There was a major onslaught on spiders and, touch wood, none have been seen for a long time now.

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Let it escape. If you, or the locals think it might have taken up residence get some one to move it out bush. No point in killing it. Good idea to identify though.

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Sorry to hear that mate and is your position recoverable?

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Nope, I will get my share of profit this month and then return to Bangkok to dissect the accounting and see what I can get back from what the fucker has taken away. Certian amounts of money have been re-distrubuted in his own terms without memos or following the original contracts.

Doubt I will see the money again however, the Thai company has a lot of influence and one farang has 1% of success I think in a labour suit against them even with the strong case I have.

So just rip the head off your Thai partner and take some pics... Don't forget to get at least one of you pointing at the body when the pic is clicked...

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I live on the edge of a small village and have run into many snakes, any found in the area are killed, also dont keep chickens near your house as they will attract them and have a few dogs will keep them away, also lemon grass they say keeps them away also a fence will make it harder for them to get in to your yard in the first place

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This thread is doomed without pictures of snakes being beheaded or violently deaded, next time use your bare hands to rip its head off then charge up your battery for the pictures.

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ok, but this particular snake's only crime, as far as i can see, is that it was caught:"choking the chicken" (fkkn can't believe you guys missed that!)
i hardly think the death penalty would be appropriate!



my mom sed i would go blind but i didn't (yet)

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I live on the edge of a small village and have run into many snakes, any found in the area are killed, also dont keep chickens near your house as they will attract them and have a few dogs will keep them away, also lemon grass they say keeps them away also a fence will make it harder for them to get in to your yard in the first place

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a fence will be no deterrent, and a large python will happily consume your dog!
your kids are safe, tho, as long as they don't go crawling through the jungle, acting like small wild pigs or thais.

pythons, which are totally harmless, MAY come after your chickens, but honestly there are enough rats and mice and frogs an lizards around any thai village to attract any kind of snake, never mind harmless pythons.

and i once found a cobra in my lemongrass patch!..... so scratch that one, too!

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I had far more snakes in my yard before we had the fence built, when you have thick scrub or Rice fields around the house a fence will help, Snakes dont like dogs and will avoid getting hassled by them as much as possible plus they will warn you when they are around.
Most the Thai style houses near where I live have a small nylon mesh fence about 1 to 2 feet high as it stops the the snakes entering their homes and also traps the snake who normaly twist and tangle themselfs into it so they get a free feed as well.
Eggs and chooks are a food source for snakes so the less food for them around your house the better, Also remove all junk and tin for them to hide under and remove thick ground cover,

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I had far more snakes in my yard before we had the fence built, when you have thick scrub or Rice fields around the house a fence will help, Snakes dont like dogs and will avoid getting hassled by them as much as possible plus they will warn you when they are around.
Most the Thai style houses near where I live have a small nylon mesh fence about 1 to 2 feet high as it stops the the snakes entering their homes and also traps the snake who normaly twist and tangle themselfs into it so they get a free feed as well.
Eggs and chooks are a food source for snakes so the less food for them around your house the better, Also remove all junk and tin for them to hide under and remove thick ground cover,

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yes, no shit lying around gives them no place to hide (bits of corrugated iron covered with other shit are idel habitats), and will help a lot. (probably the reason the thais like to remove all the vegetation around their houses, and live in a dustbowl)
the nylon stuff may slow down the smaller stuff , not because they can't scale it, but they will mostly just follow it along until they find a hole, but a 3metre burmese python will easily scale a 2-3m brick wall to get at your chickens. (all they need is a motive!), so yes, no small livestock, no pythons, you are 100% correct.
for my part, i prefer the snakes as company, to that of chickens or thai neighbours, so all reptiles welcome on my property!!!

I am working in Johor Baru at the moment and noted today that around the factory doors and entrances they have placed sulphur rocks and powder.

Apparently the area is infested with snakes and they say the sulphur keeps the snakes away.

I might try this at home in Pattaya.

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That indeed works !!

The best to use is rock sulphur pounded to a coarse powder in a pestle & mortar by yourself .
The "refined purified" sulphur powder ( like talcum powder)that you buy not only is not so good but also blows away in the wind !

If you are in a dry area and there are no plants that you like nearby then add a bit of caustic soda (sodafee?) - only do this if there are no kids or animals that you like around as well !

I have been travelling to thailand for about 10 years now. For the first few years just to the islands and of course Bangkok. In six years (probably about 8 months total stay time) I had only seen 1 snake that was seen coming into our room it was then chaised and dispatched by the staff. So snakes had'nt worried me.

In the past four years after marriage with a girl from chaiyaphum my stays have been around that general direction. In two years of visits I had again only seen one snake and had stepped on one scorpion. I quickly found out that a scorpion sting in thailand is not lethal (although I did not know that at the time).

Snakes still did not worry me.

We stayed in Ireland for about 2 1/2 years and had decided to up sticks and move to thailand. About a month ago I brought my wife and 2 kids there so I could wrap things up here. I was there for ten days and saw 4 snakes and one scorpion in the "hung nam" that I caught coz I did not want my son stepping on it like his thick father had done previously. It ended up in the lao khao.

Any back to the snakes. Two were not very venomus but could have caused a few problems for the 2 year old. One of the two others was a king cobra that the FiL found while investigating the "squaking, screaming blood curdling, oh fuck" sounds coming from the koop. We were not at home but were usually sleeping only a few meters from the koop.
The second was this
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We went out to the fields to visit the BiL and his new baby. This turned up. It was less than one meter from myself and directly behind my 2 year old when spotted. At the time I didnt know what it was. There was a big commotion and the BiL chaised it and dispatched it to the yelps and screams of the rest of the family. I was told that if it had bitten us we would have had to be in a hospital in 10 minutes. This would have been impossible as we were in the rice fields in the middle of nowhere. I asked why it came to us and was told that it must have been the lights. We had only just finished talking about noises we heard in rice shed and I was told it was a rat. On my return home I decided to learn a little about these creatures that could terminate me or one of my family. I found out that it was the rat the snake was after. If your living area is kept clear of food for snakes they will generally pass through and not be a problem.

Bungarus candidus (Malayan Krait or Blue Krait)
Thai: https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif (ngu tap saming khla, ngu kan plong)

Length: up to 160 cm
Occurrence: All over Thailand, especially frequently found in the northeast.

Habitat/behaviour:
The blue krait settles predominantly in the flat country. They are seldom found over 1200m and frequently live in close proximity to water. The blue krait is also found close to rice fields and rice dams, where it uses the many holes and paths of rats and the nests of mice to hide in. However it can also be found even in villages and cities. The blue krait hides away at night. Like the banded krait, they are somewhat shy. The blue krait is predominantly an ophiophagous, which means that it feeds off other snakes. It will also eat lizards, amphibians, and occasionally even small mammals. There is little known about the reproductive practices of Bungarus candidus. According to some observations, during the mating season the males engage in ritual fighting. Eggs are laid in Thailand in the months of March and April. During this time, gravid females could often be seen on sale from traders at the Bangkok weekend market, in Chatuchakmarkt. On average, four to ten eggs are laid. The young are scarcely 30 centimetres long at birth and correspond in colouring and style to the adults. Under normal conditions the snakes only bite to defend themselves, or if they are stepped on or injured. The poison of Bungarus candidus is neuro-toxic, as is the poison of the other Kraits, and thus affects the nervous system of the victim. The same amount of Krait venom as that of the Asian cobras is more lethal.
Danger: This snake is very poisonous and generally lethal to victims if bitten.

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Strong poison, deadly!

^ deadly!
The toxin is even named after them
We had a King in the garden,
they make a frightening sound

good thread, thanx.
i caught one of those grey and black banded buggers in the house once.
very placid, not agressive at all.
handled it for a while and let the kids stroke it (i was holding the head), then stuck it in a flower pot with a sack over the top coz i wanted to take it to the hospital the next day for identification (they had a book with pics of "perps" so that they could identify before treating snakebites)'
well, next morning it had escaped into the bedroom somewhere, and it didn't bother me too much until i was paging through the hospital's book again one day on a different mission, and came across the info that the op just provided!
...scared the shit outta me coz i really like the tookay who resided in our bedroom cieling, and i didn't want him to end up as a meal.

I really don't know why people 'freak out' about snakes. These poor reptiles are totally misunderstood.

Anyway, if you are unfortunate enough to get bitten by one of these wonderfully benevolent creatures, there is simple & effective First Aid. See the links below:

First Aid Information: Snakebite (all land and sea snakes) | Australian Venom Research Unit
Pressure Immobilisation Bandaging (PIB) : Applying a pressure immobilisation bandage | Australian Venom Research Unit

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very placid, not agressive at all. handled it for a while and let the kids stroke it (i was holding the head), then stuck it in a flower pot with a sack over the top coz i wanted to take it to the hospital the next day for identification

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It could have been this one that you were handling. The other was one and a half meters long these are smaller about .5 meter. They are not poisonus and are often confused with the krait.
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This one is like a black with gray stripes the other looks like a gray snake with black.

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very placid, not agressive at all. handled it for a while and let the kids stroke it (i was holding the head), then stuck it in a flower pot with a sack over the top coz i wanted to take it to the hospital the next day for identification

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It could have been this one that you were handling. The other was one and a half meters long these are smaller about .5 meter. They are not poisonus and are often confused with the krait.
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

This one is like a black with gray stripes the other looks like a gray snake with black.

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nope.
definitely the one with the broad silver-grey bands in the previously posted pic.
i have been handling snakes since the age of 8 years, and never take chances with a snake i cannot positively identify, so due caution was exercised.
most poisonous snakes (and many harmless ones) will strike viciously when cornered, to warn off a threat or defend itself.
this guy was so docile it surprized me.

anyway, it is great to see that many on here realise that snakes are almost never a threat if left to do their own thing, and would much rather slither away peacefully than confront or attack anything larger than themselves.

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In the rice fields I would have let the snake go on its way ....but it was not up to me to make that decision. Most Thais will kill a snake.

I have no experience with snakes.

Since you have experience you may advise me before the situation arises.

I will be living in a walled garden with one side open to a river in a semi jungle environment. I have 2 children, one is young. I expect to see snakes and would prefer not to kill them but I am scared for the younger one especially after seeing how close this one came. He is a boy and could have easily turned and run over the snake which could have provoked a bite. Boys get into things and under things.

If you scare a snake off will it not return for whatever it came for in the first place. I have no experience and would not try to handle a poisonus snake to remove it farther from my land.

How could I live if a snake I scared away returned and bit my son... it may be a long shot but is it worth the risk?

give that mongrel a wide berth if possible....

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In the rice fields I would have let the snake go on its way ....but it was not up to me to make that decision. Most Thais will kill a snake.

I have no experience with snakes.

Since you have experience you may advise me before the situation arises.

I will be living in a walled garden with one side open to a river in a semi jungle environment. I have 2 children, one is young. I expect to see snakes and would prefer not to kill them but I am scared for the younger one especially after seeing how close this one came. He is a boy and could have easily turned and run over the snake which could have provoked a bite. Boys get into things and under things.

If you scare a snake off will it not return for whatever it came for in the first place. I have no experience and would not try to handle a poisonus snake to remove it farther from my land.

How could I live if a snake I scared away returned and bit my son... it may be a long shot but is it worth the risk?

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ok, here's how to do it with far less risk of being bitten than by trying to kill it:
take one plastic bucket and throw in some crumpled up pieces of newspaper or a bunch of rags, etc.
place it, open end nearest the snake, or in the direction in which the snake is trying to move to escape you.
using a stick or a broom, simply move the snake in the direction of the bucket and it WILL happilly enter and hide under the papers or rags.
tilt the bucket upright, cover and carry it off to a wild location where it can be safely released by emptying the bucket with a swinging motion, as if you were throwing out a bucket of water.

the snake will not return.
snakes are stoopid and live only for food and shelter.
they would rather escape than confront, and probably about 90% that you will ever encounter are totally harmless.
...and even the venomous types will do more good than harm around the home.
i think that if you knew how many snakes probably lived in very close proximity to yourself and your family: unobserved, discreet and without malicious intent, you would be shocked.

your kids are more at risk of attack and potentially harmfull effects from soidogs, mosquitoes and flies than they are from snakes.

..but if you do encounter one and don't want to take a chance, try the bucket method.
it works.

Great post.... thanks,

I am sure I am not the only one who has learnt something here today.

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Its not gonna be a bucket it'll be one of those big bins with a lid.....Ill do everything as you said but I am not carrying a snake around in a bucket.

I know he will probably stay under the paper but just in case he had a bad childhood, has had enough of this world and decides to take a farang with him...
I think I will go with the large size bin with a lid.

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i think that if you knew how many snakes probably lived in very close proximity to yourself and your family: unobserved, discreet and without malicious intent, you would be shocked.

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Yes, I would think that was very true....Thanks again for the post