Motorcycle talk

What you own, what you want to get, what you had. Post it here.

In a different thread, the subject of motorcycles came up and it is just more appropriate to have a thread rather than carry on there.

Anyway, Dirk posted this

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I've had 2. (Ducati's) Both impulse buys as it happens.

Never again.

Ever.

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They sure look sexy. That tubular swingarm on the red one is sure edgy. I like them both. But what was your experience with them ? Breakdowns ? Engines light always on ? What kind of breakdowns ? Or do they just run like shit ?

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Current bike is one of these.

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I have a Honda Wave.

It has genuine Thai number plates. :)

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Originally Posted by Fondles

Current bike is one of these.

https://i.ibb.co/YN1RjdP/Screenshot-...-12-123823.jpg

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What year and model ?

It looks like a modernized version of one of the models from the 80's.

My dad had one of these when I was a kid.

https://www.bikebound.com/wp-content...maha-TR1-1.jpg

I had a Yamaha R6 Raven. The first time I test rode an R6 and decided that is what I wanted was in Pattaya. I want to buy another one and relive 2009-2013

https://www.r6-forum.com/attachments/1-jpg.23609/

You just know skidmark rides one of these.

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My weekend canyon carver. 1995 Honda RVF NC35 400RR. It also has Thai plates... :)

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Originally Posted by Backspin

What year and model ?

It looks like a modernized version of one of the models from the 80's.

My dad had one of these when I was a kid.

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XSR900 - 2020 model.

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Originally Posted by VocalNeal

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Originally Posted by Stumpy

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My weekend canyon carver. 1995 Honda RVF NC35 400RR. It also has Thai plates... :)

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That's a nice one. It is just changing over from aging look to vintage/classic. It is pretty much vintage now actually.




Is a 20 year old motorcycle a classic?

It's common for the terms 'vintage' and 'classic' to be interchanged when describing an older motorcycle. And while they share similarities, the general consensus is that a classic motorbike is considered to be classic when it's between 20 and 30 years old

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Originally Posted by Backspin

What you own, what you want to get, what you had. Post it here.

In a different thread, the subject of motorcycles came up and it is just more appropriate to have a thread rather than carry on there.

Anyway, Dirk posted this




They sure look sexy. That tubular swingarm on the red one is sure edgy. I like them both. But what was your experience with them ? Breakdowns ? Engines light always on ? What kind of breakdowns ? Or do they just run like shit ?

https://teakdoor.com/attachments/the...023-06-11-23-a

https://teakdoor.com/attachments/the...023-06-11-23-a

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And here was my reply:

The whole shitty package to be honest.

Overpriced

Temperamental and unreliable in the rain/when wet

Looooong lead time for massively overpriced parts.

Pretentious robbing up-their-own-arses service centres. Blatant liars.

Italian

And I forgot to add, they are fussy with different fuel types.

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Originally Posted by Fondles

Current bike is one of these.

https://i.ibb.co/YN1RjdP/Screenshot-...-12-123823.jpg

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I had a go of one of these up here in Udon last year. Good bike and good fun.

Probably a better contender for the Street Triple that the usual competitors.

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Originally Posted by Backspin

I had a Yamaha R6 Raven. The first time I test rode an R6 and decided that is what I wanted was in Pattaya. I want to buy another one and relive 2009-2013

https://www.r6-forum.com/attachments/1-jpg.23609/

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This bike was sold in Fayetteville, North Carolina in 2008.

How on earth can you get a 2006 Corvette for one of these?

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Originally Posted by dirk diggler

And here was my reply:

The whole shitty package to be honest.

Overpriced

Temperamental and unreliable in the rain/when wet

Looooong lead time for massively overpriced parts.

Pretentious robbing up-their-own-arses service centres. Blatant liars.

Italian

And I forgot to add, they are fussy with different fuel types.

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What parts did you need to replace as an example ?

Overpriced and overpriced parts is a given for a Wop product. I'd like to stay away from the service centers but you probably bought new eh.

Jap bikes can take any old fuel.

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Originally Posted by dirk diggler

This bike was sold in Fayetteville, North Carolina in 2008.

How on earth can you get a 2006 Corvette for one of these?

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I fuct around and got the thumb drive with pics of my bike and it turns out they were all resized tiny. But here they are

Mine is actually better. Gold anodized forks. I added an extra 20 grand for the car

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Originally Posted by Backspin

What parts did you need to replace as an example ?

Overpriced and overpriced parts is a given for a Wop product. I'd like to stay away from the service centers but you probably bought new eh.

Jap bikes can take any old fuel.

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25,000 baht to replace throttle bodies on the Monster S2R

The rubber around the LCD screen of the Hypermotard instrument panel crumbled away and water got in. 40k baht for a replacement. Ducati Service shop told me 3 weeks. During that 3 weeks they done a service when I specifically told them I only wanted the panel changed as all fluids were new and it wasn't due a service. Then they charged me 7,500 for the service and told me the Instrument panel was going to take 9 months. I found one online and with import it still cost me 38k. I'd sold the bike before the work was done (at my expense) and had no choice to pay the service bill too.

Wankers.

I don't know anyone who has been happy with their Ducati.

When Audi bought Ducati we expected solid German engineering on beautiful Italian bikes, but it just didn't happen.

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Ducati is a group of companies, best known for manufacturing motorcycles and headquartered in Borgo Panigale, Bologna, Italy. The group is owned by German automotive manufacturer Audi through its Italian subsidiary Lamborghini, which is in turn owned by the Volkswagen Group.

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I was thinking about getting an R6 for the Mrs. The ER-6n was just a bit top heavy for her.

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Originally Posted by dirk diggler

25,000 baht to replace throttle bodies on the Monster S2R

The rubber around the LCD screen of the Hypermotard instrument panel crumbled away and water got in. 40k baht for a replacement. Ducati Service shop told me 3 weeks. During that 3 weeks they done a service when I specifically told them I only wanted the panel changed as all fluids were new and it wasn't due a service. Then they charged me 7,500 for the service and told me the Instrument panel was going to take 9 months. I found one online and with import it still cost me 38k. I'd sold the bike before the work was done (at my expense) and had no choice to pay the service bill too.

Wankers.

I don't know anyone who has been happy with their Ducati.

When Audi bought Ducati we expected solid German engineering on beautiful Italian bikes, but it just didn't happen.

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Yeah that kinda sucks. Having to replace a throttle body is annoying.

But the abuse seems to be part of aura of owning Italian exotics. It is a conversation maker. That's probably the main thing that gets talked about at the Ducati clubs.

You must have known that going in but the abuse was still more than you expected eh. Why cant they hire some Jap executives and sort this shit out.


I didn't put that many miles on my R6. But the engine light came on once. And all it was , was the flapper in the exhaust needed a drop of oil. That was it.

Yet another farang motorcycle death in Pattaya. And.... it happened in a curve. These accidents involving tourists almost always happen in curves. Why ? Because ppl don't actually know how to ride. They think they do but don't. They dont know how to counter steer. They steer the wrong way , fight the lean and the bike goes the opposite direction that they want to.

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An eyewitness, Wirat Wiratchalap, shared his account of the incident, stating that he saw the man driving at high speed before losing control of his motorcycle on a curve.

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They fenagle their way through most of the time. As they gain confidence they probably start taking the curves a bit faster and thats when it happens. That is why there's always accidents on longish rides too. Someone gains a bit of confidence putting their way around the city. And then they think they are finally skilled enough to ride from town A to town B. Through a bunch of speed curves. If they crash and live, the riders almost always make up a story about how some Thai maniac did a hit and run on them.



https://youtu.be/Y5qFLHclsWU

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Originally Posted by Backspin

Yet another farang motorcycle death in Pattaya. And.... it happened in a curve. These accidents involving tourists almost always happen in curves. Why ? Because ppl don't actually know how to ride. They think they do but don't. They dont know how to counter steer. They steer the wrong way , fight the lean and the bike goes the opposite direction that they want to.

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Please stop it. Most are drunk and it has nothing to do with all the crap you are spouting.

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Originally Posted by aging one

Please stop it. Most are drunk and it has nothing to do with all the crap you are spouting.

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It has everything to do with it. Stfu

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Originally Posted by Backspin

It has everything to do with it. Stfu

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So the lad crashed and died because he did not know how to countersteer ?

I thought it was cause he was pissed but am curious to know how you know he did not know how to ride.

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Originally Posted by Backspin

Is a 20 year old motorcycle a classic?

It's common for the terms 'vintage' and 'classic' to be interchanged when describing an older motorcycle. And while they share similarities, the general consensus is that a classic motorbike is considered to be classic when it's between 20 and 30 years old

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Was big into mortorcycles in the 60s and 70s. I did buy a motoscooter, Honda Forsa, here a couple years back but never used much so gave it to the son in law. Back in the day,

My first which grew to 5 over next few years.

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So the lad crashed and died because he did not know how to countersteer ?

I thought it was cause he was pissed but am curious to know how you know he did not know how to ride.

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The typical brainless karen response to every motorcycle accident is muh alcohol and muh speed. Nobody actually thinks about what the fuck is going on.

I wouldn't be saying any of this if the witness of the accident didn't clearly state that it happened in a curve. Not a corner. Not an intersection. A fucking curve. What is your explanation ? Do you think that bike cant take curves very good ?

Even when someone is drunk, something actually has to cause it. Drunks who know how to ride who wreck, usually miss stop signs or red lights. Or get hit in traffic.

Don't tell me you've never ridden pissed before. Do you just suddenly forget how to ride and just point the bike at the nearest stationary object and crash into it through a curve ?

Swede dies in motorbike crash just 5 days after meeting Thai girlfriend

Hmmm wonder what happened ....

A 50-year-old Swedish national died immediately after his motorcycle overshot a curve in Roi Et’s Suwannaphum district on Saturday, just five days after he met his Thai girlfriend.

Motorbike crash kills Phuket man | Thaiger

Mar 2, 2023 — This tragedy comes after another motorbike crash in Thailand killed a ... He had reportedly crashed his motorbike while navigating a curve.

https://www.thephuketnews.com/woman-...road-87553.php

Mar 22, 2023 — Officers believe the motorbike was travelling at high speed when the driver lost control on the curve

5 of the Most Dangerous, Accident-Prone Roads in Bangkok


1. The Curve in Front of Ratchada Shrine


According to recent information from the Accident Research Center in Thailand (June 10, 2022), Bangkok’s most dangerous, accident-prone road is the curve in front of the famous Ratchada Shrine, AKA “The Curve of 100 Bodies”.

3. The Curve on Rama 6 Expressway
The exit point on the Bangkhlo-Chaengwattana leg of this expressway sees accidents frequently as the road descends towards the facade of Samsen School, before the Tipco Building, in a straight path

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The typical brainless karen response to every motorcycle accident is muh alcohol and muh speed. Nobody actually thinks about what the fuck is going on.

I wouldn't be saying any of this if the witness of the accident didn't clearly state that it happened in a curve. Not a corner. Not an intersection. A fucking curve. What is your explanation ? Do you think that bike cant take curves very good ?

Even when someone is drunk, something actually has to cause it. Drunks who know how to ride who wreck, usually miss stop signs or red lights. Or get hit in traffic.

Don't tell me you've never ridden pissed before. Do you just suddenly forget how to ride and just point the bike at the nearest stationary object and crash into it through a curve ?

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You can talk about countersteer bollocks all you like but if you carry too much speed into a bend nothing is going to save you.
To be honest, I have never really thought how I have steered into bends,, most important thing fo me is to setup correctly for the bend and accelerate round it, never even knew I moved the bars, just automatic with the lean.

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Originally Posted by Backspin

They dont know how to counter steer. They steer the wrong way ,

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I'm not sure you can fight the counter steer? That is about the laws of physics which are immutable. Maybe fighting against it is the problem. Not the application of it.

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Originally Posted by Norton

Was big into mortorcycles in the 60s and 70s. I did buy a motoscooter, Honda Forsa, here a couple years back but never used much so gave it to the son in law. Back in the day,

My first which grew to 5 over next few years.

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Nearly had to go for a five knuckle shuffle after looking at the Beeza, Norton and Mach 111.
I was almost as excited as Cyrille when he sees a camel.

I will say I have known guy wh've ridden for years and did not understand countersteering. Riding a motorcycle well is an art. Speeding around an unknown corner where the cambre/surface arc angle can change is stupidity.
I pretty well stick to Jap bikes although I am a lover of the 60 and 70s Brit bikes. I did have an 850cc mark 2 commando that I regret selling. I hve ridden an F4 MV and can see why most have few miles on them. My mate has an MV 850. every time it breaks down the parts have to come from Italy. It's lovely bike to look at like the F4 but to me they are really track bikes. The Penagale is another beautiful bike but you could cook a leg of lamb strapped to your leg. I nearly bought one until they told me a service was $1500.
A good honest fast reliable bike is the GSX1000. I did have a GSX 750 until my son wrote it off. These days I like pretty well anything in a Japanese transverse 4 configuration. Love some of the BMWs but they have too many reliability issues. My current ride is a 2003 Vstar 1100 but am thinking of getting back onto a sports bike as I really ride more than 100 k/m at a time these days.

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I'm not sure you can fight the counter steer? That is about the laws of physics which are immutable. Maybe fighting against it is the problem. Not the application of it.

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I think the video was misleading on what counter steering actually is.

Counter steering is simple flicking the bike to the left before turning right (and vise-versa) to initiate the gyroscopic inertia to give you a tighter turning angle with better traction and a more grounded lean.

That's the way I see it anyway.

I do it subconsciously cos it's more fun, wether I need to or not.

None of it matters if you are riding like a wanker on an unfamiliar road

I've been so busy lately my bike has been a bit neglected. Although she was in the shop for a few wee touch ups, new rear tire and and had her rims repainted.

She's 10 years old now and hasn't missed a beat.

Got a ride up to Krabi on the 23rd, canna fkn wait.

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Mach 111.

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The widow maker. Terrible handling coupled with a two stroke that when it "came on the pipe" if you didn't hang on tight, you were picking asphalt out of your ass. :)

^ Yes. All true but a thrill when I was young and bullet proof.

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A good honest fast reliable bike is the GSX1000.

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Had a Gixxer 1000 for a little while, was a weapon.
Had to sell it as it I have no self constraint..... it would have killed me !!

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