Thread: I went to all the pickup dealers today.

Originally Posted by can123

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He has no experience of the New Ranger. Its predecessors have been rubbish so it is highly unlikely that there will be sufficient improvement to place it above Japanese vehicles.

Not rocket science is it ?

You just like your mate know fuck all, crawl back under your rock.

The new T6 Ranger makes all the competitors look very ordinary. Why do you think they are all scrambling to release new models ?

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by can123

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He has no experience of the New Ranger. Its predecessors have been rubbish so it is highly unlikely that there will be sufficient improvement to place it above Japanese vehicles.

Not rocket science is it ?

You just like your mate know fuck all, crawl back under your rock.

The new T6 Ranger makes all the competitors look very ordinary. Why do you think they are all scrambling to release new models ?

Did you have to catch the "Special Bus" when you went to school ?

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by 9999

MTD said Ford get first dibs on the new model so won't see the Mazda for a while if that's true.

Mazda salesman at the Motor Expo said the new BT-50 would be out on the 16th of January.

That's interesting; quicker than I thought - well worth a look and a comparison...

Did you see either the new Mazda or Ford, Begbie - if so, what was you impression?

^ sounds like it'd be worth looking at both, certainly - thanks for that.

Went to the Expo today and got to "test drive" the Ranger.
They asked which one I want, 3.2 or 2.2. Was tempted by the bigger one, but went for the 2.2 to compare to my Calibre.

Now the "test track" is a whooping 500m loop over the parking lot, which you are allowed to drive once. So, a great opportunity to check the lauded new suspension, nimbleness and stable high speed cornering - it isn't.

But at least you get to move that beast, hear (or not) the engine and get a glimpse of how it might feel on the road.
The car is big. Inside and out it looks a size above the competition.
The interior is the nicest as well. Isuzu / Holden looked good on pictures from Oz, but what you get here in Los looks and feels like a delivery van from 15 years ago. The Ranger gives you at least the feeling of sitting in a contemporary delivery van.
The truck I drove came as "Wildtrack", giving extra leather (The orange strip and stitching looks really cool - not tacky as the red/black combo in the top spec Cruze.), steering wheel control for the radio and trip computer, and a lot of add ons on the outside as well as a black grill.
The engine is (for a diesel in a pick up) very quiet.
The overall noise suppression seems very good, which makes you notice the indicator ticking even more so. Once I heard it, it summed up the whole experience: very "limousine like".
The space on the backseats is enormous in comparison, witch enough leg room and huge headroom.
I was very impressed. That thing makes my 1 year old Navara (post facelift!) look like 2 generations older. (The intermittent Generation being the new Isuzu/ Chevrolet combo.)
The 2.2l is giving 350Nm of torque, which is a tiny bit more than the 2.5 in my Navara. But in the Ford it comes in at 1500RPM, not 2000 - which makes quite a difference.
Deliveries are supposed to start in 2 Month, but the sales staff told me May might be more realistic, especially for the 4 door Wiildtrack.
My only gripe was, that the 2WD is supposedly coming without a diff lock, even though it was promised for at least the Wildtrack model.

15 minutes later I was standing at the Isuzu stand, having a good look at their new product, when two executives came up to me and asked me how i Liked it.
I told them it's a nice design and a big step ahead. Just a shame that the Ranger is so much better.
That didn't go down too well - I think...

^^ cool. I like Mazda over Ford for some irrational reason. Will likely get a better trade in on the BT-50 too.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ Not sure that's possible, Can123 is a very strange minded chap(?) indeed...

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Bettyboo,

How much was a Toyota Hilux 4X4 with Diesel engine going for?

New Pricelist on Ford's website:

Specail price for Motor Expo valid from today until the 12 December 2011.

Series Engine Transmission Retail Price Open Cab 2.2L XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 659,000
Open Cab 2.2L Hi-rider XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 699,000
Open Cab 2.2L Hi-rider Wildtrak Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 759,000
Double Cab 2.2L XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 739,000
Double Cab 2.2L Hi-rider XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 779,000
Double Cab 2.2L Hi-rider XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed automatic Retail price at THB 799,000
Double Cab 2.2L Hi-rider Wildtrak Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed automatic Retail price at THB 869,000
Double Cab 2.2L 4x4 XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 879,000
Double Cab 2.2L 4x4 Wildtrak Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed automatic Retail price at THB 969,000

Thanks Bettyboo! I cant green you so I owe ya one later. Are these prices from BKK? I guess being expo prices is why they cheaper than around Isaan.

^ just direct from the website.

^^^ nice report, thanks. It does seem like it's a good truck; not sure how well it will sell here though... Thais being Thais...

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Double Cab 2.2L 4x4 XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 879,000

Think this will be me. Still, don't see the advantage of 6 spd. Anyone can comment on this?

What sort of trade in should I be looking to get on a 2 year old BT-50 (740K brand new)?

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Double Cab 2.2L Hi-rider Wildtrak Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed automatic Retail price at THB 869,000

Double Cab 2.2L 4x4 XLT Duratorq TDCi (Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 6-speed manual Retail price at THB 879,000

Only 10K more for 4WD without the Wildtrak cosmetics. Sweet. The 2WD Wildtrak seems overpriced, and what is so wild about a 2WD pickup anyway?

Originally Posted by 9999

The 2WD Wildtrak seems overpriced

It has all the fancy gubbins inside. I'd rather have that than 4WD as I'd never use it, but you needs may well be different from mine.

You never use a 4 wheel drive vehicle and yet you feel that you are able to offer advice on the relative merits of these cars ? I drive a 4x4 every day and know what I'm talking about. You seem content with decorations inside a vehicle and have little regard to its absolute values as a means of transport.

Are you one of those clowns who covers his windscreen with signs and furry dice ? Do you have a "go faster strip" down the side of your car ?

Originally Posted by can123

You never use a 4 wheel drive vehicle and yet you feel that you are able to offer advice on the relative merits of these cars ?

Sorry, I didn't know all pick-ups were 4WD.

I do know that you are a grade A prick though, if that helps any?

Originally Posted by can123

I drive a 4x4 every day and know what I'm talking about.

No you don't, you are completely clueless.

For anyone with half a brain it is very easy to recognize that the new Ranger outdoes any of the current competition by a long way, at least until the Japanese manufacturers release their new models in a year, or three.

Originally Posted by madjbs

Originally Posted by can123

I drive a 4x4 every day and know what I'm talking about.

No you don't, you are completely clueless.

For anyone with half a brain it is very easy to recognize that the new Ranger outdoes any of the current competition by a long way, at least until the Japanese manufacturers release their new models in a year, or three.

So silly buggers like you keep saying. Unfortunately, there is not a single piece of evidence to support what you say. People keep saying how bloody marvellous the New Ranger is going to be but have failed to indicate any of its perceived benefits and explain why it is better than the Japanese vehicles.

Has it ever dawned on people that the vast majority of pickups in Thailand are Japanese models made in Thailand ? Very few Rangers to be seen anywhere. Is it just possible that Thais drive the Japanese cars because they are superior to American ones ?

I may have half a brain but it works better than yours.

Originally Posted by can123

there is not a single piece of evidence to support what you say

Apart from all the press reviews and user reviews in Aus.

Originally Posted by can123

People keep saying how bloody marvellous the New Ranger is going to be but have failed to indicate any of its perceived benefits and explain why it is better than the Japanese vehicles.

Read the reviews and views of people who actually know the truck, like Fondles.

Originally Posted by can123

Very few Rangers to be seen anywhere.

The T6 isn't readily available yet, but I see many of the older models around here.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by can123

there is not a single piece of evidence to support what you say

Apart from all the press reviews and user reviews in Aus.

Originally Posted by can123

People keep saying how bloody marvellous the New Ranger is going to be but have failed to indicate any of its perceived benefits and explain why it is better than the Japanese vehicles.

Read the reviews and views of people who actually know the truck, like Fondles.

Originally Posted by can123

Very few Rangers to be seen anywhere.

Marmite, Can123 is a lost cause. He/She has blind faith in Somchai the garage owner whom I suspect is milking him/her like an old jersey cow.

Every review I have read says "It's big"
How much bigger than a Vigo is it ?

I'm sorry, mate, but, as it happens, I don't read many Australian papers or magazines. In fact, having lived in Pattaya, I make every effort to avoid Australians and their opinions.

A bit freaky but today I saw both the Ford pickups in my town within the space of five minutes. One looks like a little sheep pen on wheels and is used on a farm. All the other pickups are Japanese models.
I am still surprised that there can be so much excitement about a vehicle which is not yet available.

I've driven pickups in Thailand but when I go to live there I will be buying a 4x4 SUV. My Nissan has been superb in snow in the UK. I need an air-conditioned vehicle to carry my dogs and feel that a SUV is the best for my needs. I like the look of the Fortuner and the MU 7.

Originally Posted by can123

I like the look of the Fortuner

Oh dear...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by can123

I like the look of the Fortuner

Oh dear...

So, what's wrong with that car ?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by can123

I like the look of the Fortuner

Oh dear...

I know. It sums him up nicely.

"Hello, can I pay half as much again for an out-of-date pickup with a couple of tiny seats squeezed into the back, as it must be better than a purpose built SUV."

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by can123

I like the look of the Fortuner

Oh dear...

I know. It sums him up nicely.

"Hello, can I pay half as much again for an out-of-date pickup with a couple of tiny seats squeezed into the back, as it must be better than a purpose built SUV."

I drive a purpose built SUV. You are an offensive nark, Dope. All you seem to do is to be rude to everybody. You seem to lack any knowledge about anything. I have never driven a Fortuner. I have only seen pictures of them. The only vehicle of any value in Thailand seems to be one which is not available.

What the hell do you mean by "out of date" ? You and your nutty friend Betty seem to be like little kids, only impressed by "bells and whistles". I hope you buy a Ranger and that they give you a big red balloon as a welcoming gift. Or, perhaps, a goldfish.