New Ranger

**amazon777** · 11-01-2012, 06:13 PM

Was around today when the BiL got a call from Ford.
They asked him whether he sticks with his order for the 3.2 Wildtrack as they could offer a 2.2 XLT immediately, or a 2.2 Wildtrack next month.
the 3.2 Wildtrack would be available from April at a price of 1.2 Million!

He's seriously considering going with the 2.2 now as 1.2 million is quite a big ask for a pick up. Just a bit worried about the puny 150 Horses, but I told him in order to drag his boat he needs torque. And the 2.2 has more of that than his old 3.0 Vigo he sold last year.
Anyhow, since it was just a some sales staff trying to unload a XLT (in gunmetal-blue nonetheless!) I urged him to wait till any prices on the 3.2 would be available black on white, either in an official catalogue or the website.
My experience with Mitsubishi made me a bit suspicious for phone calls from dealers.

**Begbie** · 11-01-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Fail!

Nice looking truck

**FailSafe** · 11-01-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by amazon777

Was around today when the BiL got a call from Ford.
They asked him whether he sticks with his order for the 3.2 Wildtrack as they could offer a 2.2 XLT immediately, or a 2.2 Wildtrack next month.
the 3.2 Wildtrack would be available from April at a price of 1.2 Million

Note that you get more than just a bigger engine for the price difference- this link (bottom of page) shows what's exclusive to the 3.2 version:

Ford Thailand | The All-New Ranger - Specification Data

**Jesus Jones** · 19-01-2012, 08:51 AM

^^That truck looks dog rough

**Bettyboo** · 19-01-2012, 11:16 AM

^ I think they only come in manual transmission (I stand to be corrected here...).

**FailSafe** · 19-01-2012, 11:30 AM

^
I think there's an auto option on the 3.0 (the 2.5 is a 5-speed only)- it's not listed on the Mazda website, though.

**Jesus Jones** · 01-02-2012, 12:20 PM

Had a proper look inside the New Ranger 2.2 at Central III, rather disappointing i thought.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-02-2012, 07:00 PM

I saw the new Mazda BT-50 today. Fuck me, it's ugly.

**amazon777** · 06-02-2012, 10:01 PM

The smh did a test of all the currently available 4 door (double cab) pick ups.
They picked an interesting winner:

Working class: Mitsubishi v VW v Toyota v Nissan v Ford v Mazda

**Jesus Jones** · 06-02-2012, 11:07 PM

The winner was?

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-02-2012, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

The winner was?

Either the VW or Ford/Mazda I reckon.

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-02-2012, 11:40 PM

The Mazda because it is cheaper than the Ford, but with a lower spec. But, the Ford was better.

**palexxxx** · 23-02-2012, 05:42 AM

Last week I went to my local Ford dealer (Bendigo) to have a test drive of the new Ranger. (They had been advertising in the local paper the week before to 'come in for a test drive').
The young salesman told me that they didn't have any Rangers in the yard due to the Tsunami. I said, "What tsunami?"
He said, "The one in Thailand."

I quickly told him that Thailand hadn't had a tsunami for over 7 years.

Anyway, it appeared that I was not going to get a test drive at Ford that day.
"Come back in June. Ford are going to re-launch the Ranger." they said.

So, I went to the local Mazda dealer instead to see if the story was any different.

They had plenty of BT50's in the yard (virtually same vehicle, same running gear, different looks.) reason being, Ford has a lot of fleet sales to government departments, so they had already sold all of the Rangers that had already arrived in the country. Mazda on the other hand don't have many fleet sales, they sell mainly to individuals, farmers and tradies.

So, I had a test drive of a 3.2 litre 4x4 BT50. Wow. It goes like a rocket, very quiet inside, very refined. I was most impressed. When sitting inside the vehicle you don't see what the outside looks like so I wasn't put off by its styling whilst driving it. I was in the lower spec XT model, not the upmarket XTR, but it had all the bells and whistles that I could ever want.

Still, I'll wait until Ford has started producing again before I buy my pick-up. I'll probably be a resident of LOS by the time that happens.

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-02-2012, 07:19 AM

Lots of Rangers at my local Ford dealer.

**peterpan** · 23-02-2012, 07:35 AM

Despite the the Toyota being the market leader the Mazda is the clear leader in spec in Australia.

Mazda BT-50 XTR 4x4 ... from $48,810 plus on-road and dealer costs. 3.2-litre 5-cyl turbo diesel; 147kW/470Nm; 6-sp auto; 9.2L/100km and 246g/km CO2; 4WD

Value: Well equipped with 17-inch alloy wheels, cruise control, sat-nav, cloth trim, trip computer, Bluetooth, single-CD six-speaker audio with USB input, steering wheel audio controls and six airbags.
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Inside: Looks more like a car than a ute with user-friendly layout, nice materials and carpet floors. The ergonomics are good despite no reach adjustability for the steering, and the seats are comfortable. Rear space is slightly more generous, too.
Engine: Unmistakeable diesel rattle means it’s a bit noisy but, importantly, it pulls strongly. Fuel consumption is competitive for the class, without being classleading. Six-speed automatic gearbox makes best use of the engine’s grunt.
How it drives: Corners and rides brilliantly for the class but is a long way from car-like. Still has mushy steering, leans through corners and can buck and jiggles over bumps when unladen.
Out back: Can tow up to 3350 kilograms (braked) and cop a 1.1-tonne payload. Tray is longer and wider than the Toyota’s, although unlike the Toyota it can’t swallow a standard pallet.
Verdict:A clear winner thanks to its strong engine, good ride, practicality and sharp pricing. No wonder it’s our recently crowned Car of the Year Best Ute.

Toyota HiLux SR5 4x4 ... from $50,090 plus on-road and dealer costs. 3.0-litre 4-cyl turbo diesel; 126kW/343Nm; 4-sp auto; 9.3L/100km and 245g/km CO2; 4WD

Value: Matches the BT-50 for the most part but misses the standard metallic paint and dual-zone aircon that the Mazda gets. More than $1000 costlier but Toyota’s fixed-price servicing offer makes it a narrow defeat.
Inside: Much more utilitarian inside with uninspiring grey plastics and cloth dominating the cabin. Ergonomics aren’t as good as BT-50 — both lack reach-adjustable steering but HiLux’s seats are flatter. It does have good storage up front and, like the BT-50, under-seat storage in the rear.
Engine: Sounds very loud and gruff but lacks the pulling power of the BT-50. Four-speed auto is outdated in the class. Still, fuel use almost matches that of the Mazda.
How it drives: Feels tired and unable to match the Mazda’s composure. Cornering behaviour more truck than car, with tyre squeal and lots of leaning even at modest speeds.
Out back: Matches Mazda’s 1.1-tonne payload but only rated to tow up to 2500 kilograms. Also misses out on the tray’s power outlet, which the BT-50 has as standard.
Verdict: Still the market leader on sales (and with rock solid resale) but the competition has passed it by in terms of refinement and practicality.

**FailSafe** · 23-02-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Lots of Rangers at my local Ford dealer.

Including the 3.2?

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-02-2012, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Lots of Rangers at my local Ford dealer.

Including the 3.2?

Not sure, but if the 4WD only comes in a 3.2, then yes.

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-02-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by peterpan

Despite the the Toyota being the market leader the Mazda is the clear leader in spec in Australia.

Even though the Mazda is slightly lower spec than the Ford? TiA!

**Boon Mee** · 23-02-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Lots of Rangers at my local Ford dealer.

Can't sell them, eh?

Anything remotely associated with Detroit I wouldn't buy either.

**FailSafe** · 23-02-2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Not sure, but if the 4WD only comes in a 3.2, then yes.

The 2.2 comes in 4WD as well- I still have yet to see a 3.2 (there's a small '3.2' badge on the front fender if you happen to pass by again).

Either the wife or me is getting a new vehicle soon- if it's me, it's gonna be a 3.2 Ranger.

**Begbie** · 23-02-2012, 12:47 PM

Had a test drive in the Mazda BT50 and the equivalent Ford Ranger. Both 2.2 litre. I preferred the Mazda which seems to handle better when cornering but the Ford was still a nice ride.

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-02-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can't sell them, eh?

3 had just been delivered - the delivery truck was sitting on the main road outside and the chaps were doing basic prep-work and checking the paperwork.

Do all Americans prefer to shop in empty stores or is it only idiots like Boon Mee?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Anything remotely associated with Detroit I wouldn't buy either.

Nor would I. Luckily, Ford realise that American cars are shit and leave it to the Euros/Aussies to design their non-US models.

**Bettyboo** · 25-02-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Begbie

Had a test drive in the Mazda BT50 and the equivalent Ford Ranger. Both 2.2 litre. I preferred the Mazda which seems to handle better when cornering but the Ford was still a nice ride.

I know I asked this before, but does the Mazda come in auto?

Also, how did you feel about the prices, build quality and value?

I was under the impression that the Ford was a bit more, but the build quality was higher - whada reckon?

**FailSafe** · 25-02-2012, 02:55 PM

^

The Mazda Thailand website only mentions AT for the 2.5 (754K for the double cab) but the 3.0 is available with a 6-speed auto in other markets- it's got to be available in Thailand to be competitive, but it's not on the website.

2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ AT, ABS754,000 Baht
http://www.mazda.co.th/en/models_bt-50_price.php

Here's an article from Australia with more info:

http://www.carsreleasedate.info/56/2...iew-and-photo/

**Bettyboo** · 25-02-2012, 03:06 PM

^ thanks mate, it's around 50k cheaper than the Ford. Has the limited slip-diff that many folks say is a must.

How does the engine stack up against the Ford 2.2?

The two seem to have quite a few diffferences.

Originally Posted by Begbie

Both 2.2 litre.

Is the Mazda a 2.2 or 2.5; what did you reckon about the engines/performance/noise?

Edit to add: good review article, FS; the Thai websites seem to be a bit hit and miss with the accuracy of the specs, etc...

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