Thread: Cars Under 100,000Baht

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by Fondles

So the answer is no then, thanks for the confirmation.

How idiotic is your thinking? It's like me saying to you that people can't be flown in to space, then you telling me that they can, and me counter arguing by asking if you have ever been to space, when you reply in the negative, I then use this as proof that people can't go to space. You're a fucking idiot.

Twice now I have tried to import a secondhand car, my personal cars from home, if it makes any difference I am here on a work permit as a fulltime (not contract) employee of a Thai company and it was never gunna happen, how many have tried to import ?

I would prefer to be accused of being a fucking idiot rather than publicly displaying that Iam a completely retarded fuckwit like yourself.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Many Westerners here are useless at getting stuff done. You're probably not even in the minority.

Never was there a truer word spoken. It is quite hilarious at times.

This argument went along the same lines as Dr.Andy's "if it wasn't on the news it never happened" argument.

Originally Posted by Bangyai

However, I can see why this misunderstanding might occur here. Several times I have wanted to do something here and recieved contradictory advice from officials I have approached. In the end I came to the conclusion that some officials , when they see a pesky foreigner ( or even a Thai who looks too beneath their exalted dignity to bother with ) who wants something from them that might require a bit of effort on their part, they take the easy way out and say " no, can't be done "
Pesky foreigner then mumbles " kop khun crap " and does a 180 out the door. Problem sorted.
Nowadays, if I want something I phone first and ask, get several Thai friends to do likewise, then go in person, be as obsequious as necessary and wherever possible deal with a female member of staff and at the earliest opportunity tell her her hair looks nice or her tits very suckable ( whatever ). In short, suck up to 'em as much as possible beforte asking for anything.
The Chinese here are good at this. 'Out for nout ' could be their motto.
I have a lot less bother with them these days.

My only involvement was signing the paperwork, I don't do fuck all in person out here that would expose he to the "farang tax" and having to put up with local morons full of delusions of grandeur.

Allegedly it can be done, in reality it is impossible but here is the guidelines

The Permanent Import of a Personal Vehicles into Thailand

New vehicles of all types

Not yet registered abroad are allowed to be imported without applying for an import permit from the Ministry of Commerce. However, for the vehicles with the weight less than 3500 Kgs., an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Industrial Standard Institute, telephone number +66 (0)2-2023331.

Used/secondhand vehicles

Need to obtain an import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce, telephone +66 (0)2-5474804. For the vehicles with the weight less than 3500 Kgs., an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Industrial Standard Institute as well.

Warning...
For the importation of used/secondhand vehicles, an importer needs to obtain an import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce before the arrival of the vehicles; otherwise he/she shall be liable to a fine equal to 10 percent of the price of vehicle but not less than 1,000 Thai Baht, or exceeding 20,000 Thai Baht.

• Criteria for a Permanent Import of Used/Secondhand Vehicles

• An importer is eligible to import only ONE used/ secondhand vehicles for personal use.
• In case where the importer is a nonresident, he/she is required to stay in Thailand for at least ONE year and present a non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Bureau, the National Police Office together with a work permit issued by the Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare at the time of importation.
• In case where an importer is a Thai resident marrying a foreigner, he/she is required to present documentary evidence of marriage and proof of changing residence to Thailand. Also the importer has to own and possess the imported vehicle for at least one and a half year while staying abroad, from the date of transferring the ownership to the date of arrival into Thailand
• In case where an importer is a Thai resident, he/she is allowed to import a vehicle only when such vehicle is accompanied the owner on the change of residence and he/she has owned and possessed the imported vehicle together with the valid driving license for at least one and a half year while staying abroad.

• Documentation

• General Documentation:
  • An Import Goods Declaration and 3 duplicates;
  • A Bill of Lading or Air Waybill;
  • Proof of vehicle purchase (if any);
  • A Release Order (Kor Sor Kor 100/1);
  • An insurance premium invoice; and
  • Other relevant documents (if any) e.g. a power of attorney.
• Additional Documentation for the used/secondhand personal vehicles:
  • A House Certificate and an Identification Card;
  • A passport in case of changing residence;
  • A Vehicle Registration Certificate indicating that the imported vehicle was used abroad;
  • An import permit from the Foreign Trade Department of the Ministry of Commerce

• Import Clearance Procedures

• An importer/agent submits an Import Goods Declaration together with all supporting documents to the Customs office/house at the port of entry;
• Customs verifies the documents, allocates a Goods Declaration number and calculates liable taxes and duties;
• The importer/agent pays liable taxes and duties at a Cashier Office; and
• The importer/agent presents the receipt issued by the Cashier Office to a Customs Inspection Office to bring the imported vehicles from Customs custody.

• Tax and Duty Assessment:

The Customs value of the imported vehicles is determined on the basis of the CIF value (Cost, Insurance and Freight).

• Customs Value
  • Purchase prices of new vehicles imported or exported by an authorized dealer.
  • If the purchase price in 4.1.1 is not available, the price listed in the Parkers Car Price Guide, Japanese Car and What Car?
  • Costs of any modification or improvement of parts or accessories done on the vehicle are also taken into account.
  • In case where the vehicle is damaged by any incidents other than normal use e.g car accidents, fire, etc. the price of the vehicle is discounted as appropriate.
  • The Customs value for used/secondhand vehicles is discounted according to the registration period as shown in the given table
  • Insurance
    • In case where the cost of insurance is paid before the arrival of a vehicle, the actual cost of insurance is applied.
    • In case where the cost of insurance in 4.2.1 is not available, the cost of insurance is calculated at 1% of the FOB value.
    • Transport Cost
      • In case where the latest transport cost of an authorized dealer is available, such cost is applied.
      • In case where the transport cost in 4.3.1 is not available, the transport cost indicated in the Customs Code of Practices is applied e.g. the higher transport cost of the same make and model vehicle within 6 preceding months, etc.
      • In case where the transport costs in 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 are not available, the transport cost is calculated at 10% of FOB value.

Originally Posted by SoiNongbua

My wife is new to driving cars, so there is no way I will buy new for at least two years, until she becomes more experienced.

Got my missus a new Honda City (full insurance); a great car to learn to drive in; safer than an older vehicle (arguably...); she pranged it many times, but the insurance paid it all every time - I didn't help her (except for the first time), just told her to sort it out herself (insurance, Honda dealer, etc), and she did, and she has learnt well, drives quite well nowadays.

I don't think the teaching the wife to drive argument tallies up, not in my experience, here in Thailand, anyway...