Thread: 2010 Fortuner, any changes

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Black is a horrible color for a vehicle. It screams "I'm an ignorant fuck". Seems like the biggest dickheads on the road drive black Fortuners, followed by white ones.

Hey! I like black!

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I would not buy a Fortuner just because they seem to attract moron drivers.

I think you could say the same about any car in Thailand.

Agree, on both counts. Black is the only colour for which the standard cream interior actually matches.

Black cars show up the slightest scratch and dust more easily than any other color.

Fortuners must drive nicely because you see plenty of aspiring "Ricky Road Racers" driving them like they were late for the hottest date of their lives.
Maybe I'm just getting old.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Fortuners must drive nicely because you see plenty of aspiring "Ricky Road Racers" driving them like they were late for the hottest date of their lives.

I know they will happily sit at 180 on the tollway.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Black cars show up the slightest scratch and dust more easily than any other color.

Fortuners must drive nicely because you see plenty of aspiring "Ricky Road Racers" driving them like they were late for the hottest date of their lives.
Maybe I'm just getting old.

Agree with the scratch comment, the rear tailgate sill on mine is heavily scratched due to the dogs jumping in and out. Think the 'road racer' image comes from Thais (and possibly a few farang also) being unaccustomed to the power deliver from a 3 Litre engine.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Hey! I like black!

Yellow like your Sabre is much better.
I've thinking on repainting a Corolla that color.

Originally Posted by MTD

I think you could say the same about any car in Thailand.

You really see it more with Fortuner driver.
Most of the City, Civic, Corolla drivers are reasonably sensible.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You really see it more with Fortuner driver. Most of the City, Civic, Corolla drivers are reasonably sensible.

Have you done much driving in the Ayutthaya area up to Sing Buri? Jesus! These people are awful. All along the central reservation are numerous overturned vehicles and groups of stunned rice farmers who have just been flung from the back of the truck.

I know they will happily sit at 180 on the tollway.

sorry, but no car that tall sits happily at 180, unless its a range rover sport or one of those porsche 4wd lifestyle things.

Originally Posted by taxexile

I know they will happily sit at 180 on the tollway.

sorry, but no car that tall sits happily at 180, unless its a range rover sport or one of those porsche 4wd lifestyle things.

Disagree with you there, though the reality is that there are few opportunities on Thai roads to achieve that level of speed. That said, at the beginning of this year I cruised for over an hour at 160Km/hour plus on a particularly quiet section of road between CM and BKK, and that was with a fully loaded car. The wheelbase and track of the Fortuner is particularly suited to long range cruising, and the stability is outstanding.

Originally Posted by taxexile

sorry, but no car that tall sits happily at 180, unless its a range rover sport or one of those porsche 4wd lifestyle things.

Mine does, from Phetsanulok to utraditt and lampang to CM or coming back,, does it every trip too. Plenty of juice to pass in short places,, very fine car for this country if you want a pro opinion.
I have driven everything from Muscle chargers and challengers, Ram Chargers,Ford Cobra's , Broncos, SR5 long beds, KW, Peterbuilt and Autocars with Cat and Cummins engines to 450HP. and pobly as many years in the doing as anyone on here. anything with wheels, tracks and skis and props.

and the stability is outstanding.

at a constant 160-180 in a straight line ..... i'm sure it is.

its not until the need for a sudden avoidance manoevre arises that the true nature of these beasts becomes apparent.

i have a vigo 4wd and have learnt to take things a lot steadier on the highway.
ive driven fortuners and rav 4s too and they all have a high centre of gravity that makes them inherently unstable under certain circumstances.

I have driven everything from Muscle chargers and challengers, Ram Chargers,Ford Cobra's , Broncos, SR5 long beds, KW, Peterbuilt and Autocars with Cat and Cummins engines to 450HP. and pobly as many years in the doing as anyone on here. anything with wheels, tracks and skis and props.

we are talking about toyotas here, so we dont need irrelevant details of your driving experience concerning unreliable poorly engineered yank road trash here thank you very much.

Originally Posted by blackgang

I have driven everything from Muscle chargers and challengers, Ram Chargers,Ford Cobra's , Broncos, SR5 long beds, KW, Peterbuilt and Autocars with Cat and Cummins engines to 450HP. and pobly as many years in the doing as anyone on here. anything with wheels, tracks and skis and props.

We call these Yank Tanks. They handle like an elephant on skates!

Vehicles that are stable at speed. You would need to look toward Europe. Mercs, BMW, Audi, Volswagon, SAAB, Volvo.
Japs cars are too flighty, too much air under the car. Yank cars just wallow & dive too much. Eurppean cars you find are rock solid at high speeds.
World fastest production car is after all a Bugatti. Used to be Maclaren. Still it the Europeans that knows how to build cars properly.

Trucks like Vigo or the Fortuner are not built for speed. Never was. Also not for ride comfort. They are built on a compromise of parts availability due to costs & tax constraints.

Originally Posted by blackgang

You already proved your engineering knowledge when you made the claim that the diesel injection pump is what regulated the speed of diesel powered vehicles. instead of HP and Gearing.

Err the Toyota Vigo is what we are talking about here. Not some oversized cummins engine producing gazillions torque.
Thanks to the fuel governor, they cannot travel much faster than 180kmh.

Now Eurpeans build trash?? That is a good one. Please name one.

Now Eurpeans build trash?? Please name one.

i'll name 3.

alfa romeo, citroen, peugeot

Originally Posted by taxexile

Now Eurpeans build trash?? Please name one.

i'll name 3.

alfa romeo, citroen, peugeot

The early Alfas are certainly rubbish. The two french company you quoted. Are they really cars?

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Thanks to the fuel governor, they cannot travel much faster than 180kmh.

You keep saying that and it means nothing,, 1-1 , 2-1, 3-1, or overdrive gearing, if you have the HP to turn full RPMs then the more gearing the higher your top speed will be with a governor speed of 4000 RPM's, at 5-1 you do not go very fast.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Now Eurpeans build trash?? That is a good one. Please name one.

Jaguar is Junk, Triumph Was or is junk, MG is Junk,, all the cars from England and Europe that came into American markets that could be bought by the general public were or are junk, and even the handmade high priced stuff would not last.

How many Yanks cars sold outside of the US of A?? Dealer networks selling American made tanks?? None!
In the states. Mercs, Bee Ems, Volkswagon all have dealerships there.
Yank cars are pure trash.

Originally Posted by blackgang

You keep saying that and it means nothing,, 1-1 , 2-1, 3-1, or overdrive gearing, if you have the HP to turn full RPMs then the more gearing the higher your top speed will be with a governor speed of 4000 RPM's, at 5-1 you do not go very fast.

Even of you modded for more horsepower. The gearing on the Vigo still fuck it. The Governor which governs the fuel injector pump speed is regulated. Therefore at a given RPM on a set of gearing it will top out at 180kmh.

Jaguar is Junk, Triumph Was or is junk, MG is Junk,, all the cars from England and Europe that came into American markets that could be bought by the general public were or are junk, and even the handmade high priced stuff would not last.

..... and gm are bankrupt and chrysler is almost bankrupt.

the last decent american cars were the befinned behemoths of the late 50's and early 60's.

rolling art. auto design at its best, alongside the classical british auto art of jaguar, rolls and bentley.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

The Governor which governs the fuel injector pump speed is regulated. Therefore at a given RPM on a set of gearing it will top out at 180kmh.

Very good, Very good,, now change the tires and add larger dia. tires, you have increased some miles per hour, do you have any Ides how easy it is to change ring and pinion gears to change your 4-11 gearing to a 3-58

Originally Posted by Travelmate

In the states. Mercs, Bee Ems, Volkswagon all have dealerships there. Yank cars are pure trash.

Lots of cars under different badges are USA cars, Holden I think for 1, but I am not familliar with automobile sales as that is not my trade, and all the cars that you listed as being sold in the US are junk,, no power, no longevity before rustout and cheaper to buy, and only bought by yuppies and I have never seen one in a power contest like NASCAR or at the drags.
Where dependability counts as in Taxicabs you will never see those cars in service, as limos with short milages and super care, but not where being tough counts. do you drive a Volvo??

Originally Posted by taxexile

rolling art. auto design at its best, alongside the classical british auto art of jaguar, rolls and bentley.

The auto unions UAW is what broke the US auto co. which also owned most foreign auto co.'s,, Jag has been very undependable junk for years, and the RR and Bentleys were always very high priced and not a very dependable car at best and very expensive to maintain and keep running.

Of the 3 Jags I have owned the Mk7 was powered with a studebaker V8,, I owned 2 XK's were powered with a ford and a chev engines

Originally Posted by blackgang

I have never seen one in a power contest like NASCAR or at the drags.

That's because foreign cars are excluded from NASCAR

Originally Posted by taxexile

at a constant 160-180 in a straight line ..... i'm sure it is.

Err, what like on a tollway?

Originally Posted by Thetyim

That's because foreign cars are excluded from NASCAR

Except the engines, right?

^
Forgotten which formula it is but in one American formula all the engines are sourced from England.
Ilmor Engineering I think