Electric Cars ard not the future!

**OhOh** · 30-07-2023, 06:08 PM

Runaway 500 EV meltdown on cargo ship: Proof our cities aren't ready for full EV deployment

**Takeovers** · 30-07-2023, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Runaway 500 EV meltdown on cargo ship:

Ludicrous. Not even fire from one EV on that ship is proven. It is all speculation.

**OhOh** · 05-10-2023, 06:44 PM

**baldrick** · 05-10-2023, 06:52 PM

that cnuts head screams trump supporting conspiracy nutjob

thermal runaway has been a thing long before battery fires and only sounds technical to the morbidly stupid

**S Landreth** · 05-10-2023, 07:10 PM

Rethinkin’ the Mercedes

Air Grand Touring | Lucid Motors

**david44** · 05-10-2023, 07:12 PM

New Thai plan bribe people to spend, their unicorn created 10,000 banana bahts within 4km like the hi-so elephant ticket the average radius of rat cat or soi wog. Perhaps lashing Russian draft dodgers to hand rickshaws will solve Phuket effluent

**dirk diggler** · 05-10-2023, 08:37 PM

This gave me a laugh.

Tell it like it is, Donald.

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**David48atTD** · 08-10-2023, 04:12 AM

Couple of things. Hydrogen will play a large role in heavy industry/heavy transport/people transportation ... as in buses etc.
Depots can store Hydrogen for refueling. Difficult to see the Hydrogen car for Mum and Dad anytime soon.

EV's are evolving. I've just read the MO for a 'Range Extender' EV ... piqued my interest.
Smaller battery, thus small curb weight, less detrimental environmental impacts due to using a smaller battery.

Because of the 'Range Extender' it removes the 'Range Anxiety' associated with a 'pure' EV.
The battery charging ICE would be rarely used as most car use as "the worldwide average Daily Driving Distance for passenger cars is only 25km - 50km." Worldwide Daily Driving Distance is 25-50km? What about AU, US, UK, EU, and....

I have roof-top solar to charge the car's battery.

3. Range Extender hybrid Electric Vehicle (REX or REEV)

Range extenders, most often referred to as REX vehicles, are generally a type of plug-in hybrid.
Range extenders are purely electrically-driven vehicles which use a combustion engine as a generator.

The combustion components have no mechanical attachment to the wheels to cut down on complexity, weight, and the size of the required engine.

The most notable range extender model sold in Australia was the BMW i3, although Mazda is looking to re-enter the range-extender space with a version of the MX-30 in the future.

Range extenders typically have smaller batteries, as the engine as a generator instead makes up for their lack of purely electric driving range.

Nissan’s ‘e-Power’ hybrids use a similar layout to a range extender, as they only drive the wheels via electric motors, using the engine to generate extra power, although as they have hybrid-sized batteries and cannot be plugged in, they are instead a type of hybrid, and not technically a range extender.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/ev/advi...xplained-82931

**S Landreth** · 08-10-2023, 04:23 AM

He did a great job reviewing the Lucid Grand Touring EV

**baldrick** · 08-10-2023, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Smaller battery

having a normal sized BEV allows you to use it to power your house - when aust rules get sorted - this will also lower your electric bills either via kWH price shifting or storing your excess solar - if you are not planning a trip the set the program to maintain minimum in your batt and use the rest

**BLD** · 09-10-2023, 07:51 PM

Time to loosen up that tin foil hat Betty. Sure hope your not filling kids heads full of shit in yer tefler role, woke mofo

**David48atTD** · 19-10-2023, 03:19 PM

**cyrille** · 19-10-2023, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by BLD

Time to loosen up that tin foil hat Betty.

I'd always assumed one size fits all.

**S Landreth** · 19-10-2023, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Why EVs Are Piling Up At Dealerships In The U.S. – CNBC

Meanwhile, electric vehicle sales have gone from 2.2M in 2019 to 14M this year as estimated by the International Energy Agency. That means just under 1 in 5 new vehicles sold worldwide could be battery-powered this year, and EVs are now nearly 7% of new passenger vehicles sold in the United States with roughly the same share coming from hybrids. That global boost in demand for EVs has been so strong that the German statistics office has even had to revise its car manufacturing data methodology to account for their rapidly growing market share.

**Switch** · 20-10-2023, 08:50 AM

If advanced technology for infrastructure and vehicle range is causing difficulties in the west (USA) then there is little hope elswhere.

Reticence and anxiety is common when people face changes, especially changes as dramatic as this.

Government intervention is only aimed at virtue signaling, and the hybrid seems the most likely first step for most buyers. It helps with concerns over infrastructure, charging facilities, and vehicle range capabilities.

Without improvements and incentives, any government intervention is weak at best. The big hope for Co2 emissions reduction will not happen, as the concerns of the public will not go away.

Third world and developing economies will be unable to ban ICE. The market demand for ICE will likely benefit the third world more than government intervention in the west.

**S Landreth** · 20-10-2023, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Switch

If advanced technology for infrastructure and vehicle range is causing difficulties in the west (USA) then there is little hope elswhere.

No difficulties

Another Quarter, Another Record: EV Sales in the U.S. Surpass 300,000 in Q3, as Tesla Share of EV Segment Tumbles to 50%

Electric vehicle (EV) sales volumes set another record in Q3, as total sales of battery-powered vehicles jumped past 300,000 for the first time in the U.S. market. Year-to-date EV sales through September reached just over 873,000, putting the market firmly on track to surpass 1 million for the first time ever. The milestone will likely be achieved in November.

Total EV sales in Q3, according to an estimate from Kelley Blue Book, hit 313,086, a 49.8% increase from the same period one year ago and an increase from the 298,039 sold in Q2. Most automakers posted sizeable gains over 2022, with Volvo, Nissan, Mercedes and Hyundai delivering increases above 200%, thanks mostly to new products entering the market. In Q3, 14 new EV models that did not exist one year ago were in the mix, including Chevrolet Blazer and Silverado EVs. (The new Chevy EVs had very low sales – just an initial few to mark a Q3 launch). The EV market is transforming, to be sure.

Electric vehicle sales accounted for 7.9% of total industry sales in Q3, a record and up from 6.1% a year ago and 7.2% in Q2. As Cox Automotive has been reporting, higher inventory levels, more product availability, and downward pricing pressure have helped spur continued linear growth of EV sales in the U.S. market. EV sales have now increased for 13 straight quarters.

**Switch** · 20-10-2023, 08:11 PM

^Does not address the issues of charging infrastructure or range capability. Thes issues plus battery availability and environmental costs seem to be ignored?

**Takeovers** · 20-10-2023, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Switch

Does not address the issues of charging infrastructure or range capability. Thes issues plus battery availability and environmental costs seem to be ignored?

Yeah, just like ICE cars are not competetive with horses as long as you have to buy your gasoline in the pharmacy.

**Switch** · 20-10-2023, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Yeah, just like ICE cars are not competetive with horses as long as you have to buy your gasoline in the pharmacy.

A very different age. Governments did not ban the horse from competing as method of moving goods and people around.
Rag and bone men with horse drawn transport were still around when I was a nipper.
Always a market for horse manure, especially among rose growers, and they didn’t have to compete with the pharmacy!

**Takeovers** · 21-10-2023, 11:12 AM

I was out for a while. About that burning car transport ship, a bit late. The fire did not start in the area, where the electric cars were placed.

**baldrick** · 21-10-2023, 12:16 PM

Range rovers and land rovers cause the fires and all the refuseniks blame electric vehicles

**Backspin** · 21-10-2023, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Range rovers and land rovers cause the fires and all the refuseniks blame electric vehicles

You gormless fuck. Roll on ships have a system that starves each deck of oxygen to put out fires. Even if a land rover caused the fire , it isn't what caused it to be a runway fire. These EV fires can't be put out by cutting off the oxygen. So none of the safety systems work as intense anymore with EVs on board

**Backspin** · 21-10-2023, 12:24 PM

Look at the cost of these battery packs. Madness

**Takeovers** · 21-10-2023, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

You gormless fuck. Roll on ships have a system that starves each deck of oxygen to put out fires. Even if a land rover caused the fire , it isn't what caused it to be a runway fire. These EV fires can't be put out by cutting off the oxygen. So none of the safety systems work as intense anymore with EVs on board

There was no fire in the deck where the electric cars were placed.

**baldrick** · 21-10-2023, 02:19 PM

And Luton airport carpark

Backspit is just manipulated by his hero YouTubers

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