Thread: E-Cigarettes, Follow up

Explaining to people is getting a little tedious, but saying no to people saying 'can I try?' is driving me nuts!

Originally Posted by Satonic

but saying no to people saying 'can I try?' is driving me nuts!

I have exactly the same problem.

Everyone who sees me smoking mine when I'm out wants to have a toke and fvcked if I know what diseases I'm going to pick up allowing them to do so.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Satonic

but saying no to people saying 'can I try?' is driving me nuts!

I have exactly the same problem.

Everyone who sees me smoking mine when I'm out wants to have a toke and fvcked if I know what diseases I'm going to pick up allowing them to do so.

Or how many non-smokers you will convert

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Satonic

but saying no to people saying 'can I try?' is driving me nuts!

I have exactly the same problem.

Everyone who sees me smoking mine when I'm out wants to have a toke and fvcked if I know what diseases I'm going to pick up allowing them to do so.

I don't think your risk level has increased significantly Mate

Originally Posted by Satonic

Or how many non-smokers you will convert

Don't know how many I'm going to convert mate but these things do draw some attention.
Actually I'm pretty amazed how few bar girls smoke normal cigarettes and how much they appreciate not having smoke blown over them.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

I don't think your risk level has increased significantly Mate

STFU.............................

Originally Posted by Extreme Gape Lover

I wont die a slow, agonising smoking related death.

No one on Teak Door wishes that on you PV

Originally Posted by Extreme Gape Lover

I've been smoke free for nearly a year now. I went Cold Turkey, which is the best way. The whole point is to stop Nicotine dependency, NO MORE NICOTINE !!
Throw away the Patches, e-Cigs and Gum, set a date and just stop. If you really want to quit, you will.
I used to think "How will I cope without Smokes" "What about when I have a Beer" "My life will be shit without smoking" All bullshit. LIFE IS SO MUCH BETTER WITHOUT SMOKING.
I have turned into an anti smoking Nazi and now dont even like being around smokers. To me they look pathetic and weak.
I can smell them from a mile off, they stink. My skin and hair look healthier, I can run for miles and I wont die a slow, agonising smoking related death.

We are both looking for the same result, just taking different roads to get there.

Like I said when I opened the thread, it was to give information to those interested in using e-cigarettes.

If I wanted to discuss cold turkey vs patches vs gum etc etc I would have said that.

Congratulations on giving up

Originally Posted by Extreme Gape Lover

I've been smoke free for nearly a year now. I went Cold Turkey, which is the best way. The whole point is to stop Nicotine dependency, NO MORE NICOTINE !!
Throw away the Patches, e-Cigs and Gum, set a date and just stop. If you really want to quit, you will.
I used to think "How will I cope without Smokes" "What about when I have a Beer" "My life will be shit without smoking" All bullshit. LIFE IS SO MUCH BETTER WITHOUT SMOKING.
I have turned into an anti smoking Nazi and now dont even like being around smokers. To me they look pathetic and weak.
I can smell them from a mile off, they stink. My skin and hair look healthier, I can run for miles and I wont die a slow, agonising smoking related death.

For you ....... EGL, some people also need a whipping to orgasm, each to their own.

Pure nicotine isolated is not the biggest health problem with smoking, it is all the shit that gets stuck in your lungs and the added dependency additives the cigarette company's mix in the tobacco and the paper, a pure tobacco Cigar don't give near the same dependency as chemically enhanced cigarettes for instance.

The nicotine isolated is not much worse than the stuff mixed in coca cola or coffee to keep you Dependant.

As soon as you stop smoking real cigarettes and use the ecig, you get all the same benefits like if you went cold turkey, your smell is restored, your breathing is improved and your lungs over some days empty of the shit you usually coughed up, of-cause the exercise is then to slowly decrease the use of the ecigs but that in my experience comes quite naturally, already after one month now I don't use the ecigs at night (used to wake up for a smoke) I go out for hours without the ecigs, before I always had to find a place to have a cigarette when we where out. etc. etc.

The main point is to quit the habit, whether people use hypnosis, acupuncture, nicotine gum, etc. is really completely unimportant as long as it works for them, just like the ones who insist on doing the guilty of sin penance and masochistic suffering bit, you know a bit like insisting on jumping out of a plane without a parachute, why soften the landing

Which ever way people succeed is just fine.

I am certainly not going to turn into a hysteric anti smoking nutter, plenty of poison out there in the air much worse than a bit of second hand smoking, those people are complete idiots on that issue just like most fanatics in all other areas be it religious or otherwise.

Back on topic, I don't believe the only addictive substance in cigarettes is nicotine

Why do the Tobacco companies chuck in 4000 chemicals, to make them even more addictive IMO

I've tried the gum and still craved cigarettes.

I've gone cold turkey a few times, after I got past 3 days it became a lot easier, then I'd always hit a stumbling block at 3 weeks, but that was living with the EX who would drive a Saint to smoke

The cravings only last for a few minutes, when they come, but after 3 weeks I found those few minutes came about 15 times an hour, the barstards

The worst thing when giving up is meeting people who tell you they gave up for 10 years

I did give up one thing though, I gave up giving up

Gonna try again soon though, especially if UK Customs find the 1000 in my case

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Originally Posted by Satonic

So thats why I found your comment strange, why it was directed only at loy toy.

He made several posts in a single thread and thus most know him well and would therefore present an easier source to relate to.

The thread was to demonstrate how effective the e cig is. Correct?

Not quite, it was to offer advice to those thinking of trying and offer help if they had any questions. But yes I guess it did demonstrate that I am finding it effective.

I have said before in another thread that I have tried a number of times to just quit, and I couldn't do it. Kudos to those who can, but I couldn't.

I know a lot of other people are in the same situation so there is the reason for the thread. After 17 years of smoking I have now gone the first and only smoke free 6 days of that time. So even if I am using a substitute I'm still happy with my progress.

I have smoked for 25 years.
It's different strokes for different folks.

substitute or no substitute does not matter, the end result need to be positive.

Quit smoking and remain a non smoker.

The more that does so, the better.

I don't know if you've tried the Allen Carr method guys, but one thing he says is to pretend you have an angry green monster in your stomach, and when the cravings come, that is him. So what you are trying to do is deprive the monster and kill him

Sounds a bit naff eh, but when I tried the gum i would read those little pamphlets inside and it gives you a lift

Originally Posted by Travelmate

I have smoked for 25 years.
It's different strokes for different folks.

substitute or no substitute does not matter, the end result need to be positive.

Quit smoking and remain a non smoker.

The more that does so, the better.

Agreed, Congrats on quitting. Hopefully I will be smoke and substitute free within the next 6-8 weeks.

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

I don't know if you've tried the Allen Carr method guys, but one thing he says is to pretend you have an angry green monster in your stomach, and when the cravings come, that is him. So what you are trying to do is deprive the monster and kill him

Sounds a bit naff eh, but when I tried the gum i would read those little pamphlets inside and it gives you a lift

I downloaded his dvd, and I have heard great things about it. It works for an awful lot of people. I wasn't one of them I'm afraid.

I have cut my nicotine down from 16mg to 11mg last night and I have noticed no difference so far, I'm not using the e-cig any more than normal so thats a good sign. I'll cut down to 6mg in a week or 2.

I was thinking, like some have mentioned, ecigs look a bit naff down the boozer, sorry Larv

But imagine an e-Cuban Cigar, or an e-pipe or e-spliff or what about an e-crackpipe or e-bong down Soi Boiakau?

Good business opportunity there if anyone wants it

^ I better cancel that patent then.

Still got the crackpipe though

Saying that if e-cigs are illegal in Thailand, I wonder what the penalty is

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

^ I better cancel that patent then.

Still got the crackpipe though

Saying that if e-cigs are illegal in Thailand, I wonder what the penalty is

I'm wondering if a cop would even know what it was if he noticed you, they are not exactly common.

But I'm guessing 200 baht fine like most things or confiscation, but in reality I could never see that happening.

There are shops openly selling them.

Would be interesting to know the real facts though

Many market stalls have them on display, but then vibrators are illegal in Thailand too.

The e-cigs tent to retail around 2,500 but get a haggle on as the market sellers buy them for 700baht.

My friend thought an E-Fag was a gay robot

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

My friend thought an E-Fag was a gay robot

Gay online dating site.

I used a hypnotist to help me quit 5 years ago, not touched one since..

Cheers

Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt

I used a hypnotist to help me quit 5 years ago, not touched one since..

Cheers

Can you expand on that?
Once hypnotized you stopped immediately?
You lost all sensations? Nicotine cravings?