Indigestion

**FailSafe** · 06-09-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by palexxxx

Originally Posted by FailSafe

If it's GERD a tablespoon or two of apple cider vinegar can really help as well (it neutralizes the acid)- it tastes kind of nasty, though, but that's a small price to pay for relief.

Does this have to be consumed neat? I used to have a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water, didn't taste so bad then.

That's probably fine, but I don't know for sure (perhaps diluting it isn't a great idea)- my wife just takes a shot from the bottle (horrible but quick

) when she needs it (which her doctor recommended)- it's better than relying on drugs, imho, but she might not have it as seriously as some others do.

**Little Chuchok** · 06-09-2011, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Marmite, I would skip the home remedies and try the Omeprazole 20mg daily.

I will take one before lunch, as breakfast of fruit & yoghurt never gives me a problem.

Losec/Omeprazole is the best.it works a treat.(the ones in the green packet used to work the best...THB75 for 20 off memory) If you keep getting intergestion, then you have a chance of getting your oesophagus ulcerated. I put up with this for years, until I started bleeding...not nice when you throw up a pint of congealed blood.

Losec stops you from producing too much acid (proton pump inhibitor )...either that or get an optrectomy.....

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-09-2011, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

I'm no Doctor, but does sound like you are sensitive to gluten mate.

Starch/gluten, whatever: but yes, something like that.

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

I'm looking for a new breadmaker if you can deliver it to Bangkok

I'm not sure the Midget wants to live in Bangkok again.

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-09-2011, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

(the ones in the green packet used to work the best...THB75 for 20 off memory)

I think these are 4 baht each and appear to be working fine.

**rickpattaya** · 06-09-2011, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I often get really bad indigestion. My stomach gets really bloated and it feels like the contents of my stomach wants to exit via my mouth. I believe this is a result of my stomach being intolerant to grains/starch/gluten.

If I just stick to meat & veges, I'm ok, but I occasionally want to eat bread and pasta.

Is there anything that can be done to remove these symptoms? Coke (the drink) sometimes helps, but it can be a bit embarrassing burping in public. Anti-acid tablets make the problem worse, as I need to digest the food, not prevent its digestion.

Otherwise, is there a sure-fire way to make yourself puke? I tried the old fingers down the throat routine that seems popular with certain princesses, but I just retch a few times.

I had almost exactly the same problem as you and for a similar time. It got that bad last week that i went to the local doctor (Thai). He took a blood sample and sent it away for analysis. It came back as Helicobater Pylori positive, this is the bacteria that causes stomach ulcers and the ulcer can not be treated until the bacteria has been killed. I am taking anti bio-tics and Omeprazole as per prescribed by the doctor and I am feeling better everyday. Get a blood test done.

**Marmite the Dog** · 06-09-2011, 06:27 PM

^ What anti-biotics are you taking?

I've probably done a course of them over the last couple of years, so I should be clean already.

**rickpattaya** · 06-09-2011, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

^ What anti-biotics are you taking?

I've probably done a course of them over the last couple of years, so I should be clean already.

Anti bio tics need to be combined to kill the bacteria. Here are the tablets that i am taking over a 10 day course.
Amoxycillin 4 a day
Mottilium 3 a day
Omeprazole 2 a day
Metronidazole 6 a day

I hope this helps.

**DrAndy** · 06-09-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

More like 10. Quote: Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii You seen a Doctor ?, maybe you have n ulcer Yes. I saw the 'specialist' gastro-whatever-doctor at Bumrungrad. A typically useless prick that you find at these boutique hospitals.

ulcers are caused by a bacteria usually

so you can get the correct drugs to cure them

What causes ulcers?

Most peptic ulcers develop as a result of:

bacteria in the stomach (Helicobacter pylori) - very common.
the use of antirheumatic medicine, NSAIDs, or aspirin (eg Disprin) - less common.

**rickpattaya** · 06-09-2011, 07:09 PM

Ulcers are caused by Helicobater Pylori. Google it mate.

**rickschoppers** · 06-09-2011, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by rickpattaya

Ulcers are caused by Helicobater Pylori. Google it mate.

Partially correct and here is the google search:

What causes Stomach Ulcers?
The direct cause of peptic ulcers is the destruction of the gastric or intestinal mucosal lining of the stomach by hydrochloric acid, an acid normally present in the digestive juices of the stomach. Infection with the bacterium Helicobacter pylori is thought to play an important role in causing both gastric and duodenal ulcers. Helicobacter pylori may be transmitted from person to person through contaminated food and water. Antibiotics are the most effective treatment for Helicobacter pylori peptic ulcers.
Injury of the gastric mucosal lining, and weakening of the mucous defenses are also responsible for gastric ulcers. Excess secretion of hydrochloric acid, genetic predisposition, and psychological stress are important contributing factors in the formation and worsening of duodenal ulcers.
Another major cause of ulcers is the chronic use of anti-inflammatory medications, such as aspirin. Cigarette smoking is also an important cause of ulcer formation and ulcer treatment failure.

**rickpattaya** · 06-09-2011, 10:47 PM

OK thanks for the info. i still think that the first step for diagnosis would be to have a blood test to see if Helicobacter pylori is present though.

**rickschoppers** · 06-09-2011, 10:53 PM

^
Yes, it might be a good idea since antibiotics in the right dose,frequency and combinatin usually takes care of that.

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