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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123
    Should I up my salt intake?
    There is a difference between salt you add to food for taste and electrolytes, which are a group of chemicals that are part of the balanced body salts that aid normal functions.
    Dehydration is more than just fluid loss.
    The sweat comprises fluids containing essential body salts. Loss of these essential salts can cause problems. Not so much at our level but you can see distance runners taking specially formulated drinks when racing.
    I take the powdered electrolyte drink after cycling in the tropics just as a precaution against cramps caused by dehydration and electrolyte loss.

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    I shall be going for a brisk walk in the mountains this afternoon and will be accompanied by my wife and my dogs. I will be in no need of hydration chemicals. I will have a cup of tea when I get home and three glasses of whiskey and ginger ale before going to bed. My legs do not hurt. Thank fuck I am not fit like others here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Ice water baths will do the trick. You will get used to it and actually enjoy them, especially in a hot country like thailand.

    hit the sauna/steam-room, if you have access, after a workout and then finish off with a icy bath.

    I get ice delivered at 50 baht for a bag of 20kg, I find i need for 4 bags if i want to fill the bath to cover my upper torso as well if i lie back. its not cold enough with just 2 bags. if you are not used to it, I think 2 bags is enough to start with.

    No need to have one after every workout, but at the end of the week, if you have exercised several times, it has great recuperative effects.
    dip nutz in ice while in warm trainer, may have no gymnastic benefits but always ensures a hippy ending

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    Worth considering other medical causes, from poor circulation to neurological impairment.

    Symptoms of MND | MND Association

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Perota, how are your legs these days? Still sore?
    Actually much better. Unfortunately I can't say exactly why because I change a number of things to my routine so I can't point out which one was the most beneficial.

    First I try to swim one hour every morning when weather permits.

    Before I used to either go running (5 to 10 Km) or do some work out in my home gym. Now I do both. Run, stop to do some bag exercices, run again then stretching for at least 10 to 15 mn.

    After exercice I drink a small bottle of 100 energy drink as advise above.



    I found swimming really relaxing. Also by alternating different exercices I think muscles have more time to relax. Stretching definitively helps. For the energy drink, it tastes good, so why not, but I still drink mostly water
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123
    Should I up my salt intake?
    There is a difference between salt you add to food for taste and electrolytes, which are a group of chemicals that are part of the balanced body salts that aid normal functions.
    Dehydration is more than just fluid loss.
    The sweat comprises fluids containing essential body salts. Loss of these essential salts can cause problems. Not so much at our level but you can see distance runners taking specially formulated drinks when racing.
    I take the powdered electrolyte drink after cycling in the tropics just as a precaution against cramps caused by dehydration and electrolyte loss.
    Spot on , I used to keep and race greyhounds quite successfully , when I raced one over an extended distance ,part of the after race treatment was giving them electrolytes to drink which aided a quick recovery .

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Spot on , I used to keep and race greyhounds quite successfully
    You must be extremely fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Spot on , I used to keep and race greyhounds quite successfully
    You must be extremely fit.
    Nice one Can 123, I can't say I did'nt ask for that remark

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    In my younger days, I always ate a couple of bananas after a long run to avoid cramps...I was told it was the potassium that kept those night cramps at bay..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    In my younger days, I always ate a couple of bananas after a long run to avoid cramps...I was told it was the potassium that kept those night cramps at bay..
    We see World class tennis players eating them during a long match for that very reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    In my younger days, I always ate a couple of bananas after a long run to avoid cramps...I was told it was the potassium that kept those night cramps at bay..
    We see World class tennis players eating them during a long match for that very reason

    Monkeys like them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    In my younger days, I always ate a couple of bananas after a long run to avoid cramps...I was told it was the potassium that kept those night cramps at bay..
    You will often see endurance athletes eating bananas.
    The main reasons are, they are easily digested and provide a slow release source of energy.
    Five sets of tennis can often take longer than a marathon.
    Not sure about greyhounds though. Perhaps they require more explosive energy sources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle
    Not sure about greyhounds though.
    Nothing like a pork pie to slow down a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    Nothing like a pork pie to slow down a dog.
    Or a rabbit to speed him up. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    In my younger days, I always ate a couple of bananas after a long run to avoid cramps...I was told it was the potassium that kept those night cramps at bay..
    You will often see endurance athletes eating bananas.
    The main reasons are, they are easily digested and provide a slow release source of energy.
    Five sets of tennis can often take longer than a marathon.
    Not sure about greyhounds though. Perhaps they require more explosive energy sources?
    Sorry if you misunderstood my post Duke , but I used to give my dogs electrolytes after they had an hard race like 880 yards , to a dog every race is a sprint as it goes flat out from start to finish , and half a mile flat out is as far as most dogs want to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    Nothing like a pork pie to slow down a dog.
    Or a rabbit to speed him up. lol
    Both are just myths , a pound of grub is about as much use in slowing a dog down as pissing in its ear , as for giving a dog a kill to speed it up thats baloney too , if the dog is genuine it will chase the dummy hare as fast as it is physically able to , and no kill will cause an improvement in performance , I can put my hand on my heart and say that in all my many years of keeping greyhounds I have never ever give a dog a kill, it might make a "dodgy " dog chase but even then it will not make it run any faster than its able to

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    BB is onto something... HIT high intensity training - is in vogue now (and for good reason)...

    much more effective (and easier on the body) than long, tedious, endurance running, etc..

    Get the heart pumping like mad... slow it down, then go again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    BB is onto something... HIT high intensity training - is in vogue now (and for good reason)...

    much more effective (and easier on the body) than long, tedious, endurance running, etc..

    Get the heart pumping like mad... slow it down, then go again...
    Unless, of course, you're old and badly out of shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
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    Rough guide? When exercising wipe your temple with a finger and lick it. If it tastes of salt you have enough in your system.
    I did this today whilst sweating at the gym. I could not taste any salt.
    I suppose thats better than licking your finger and sticking it up your arsehole like you usually do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    BB is onto something... HIT high intensity training - is in vogue now (and for good reason)...

    much more effective (and easier on the body) than long, tedious, endurance running, etc..

    Get the heart pumping like mad... slow it down, then go again...
    Unless, of course, you're old and badly out of shape.
    There is nothing much we can do about getting old. But out of shape just show weakness of mind.



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    Stiff sore legs after excessive walking or running shows you need more magnesium.

    Use topically, or drink it, magnesium chloride liquid, or get magnesium tablets.

    You need nearly as much magnesium as calcium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    BB is onto something... HIT high intensity training - is in vogue now (and for good reason)...

    much more effective (and easier on the body) than long, tedious, endurance running, etc..

    Get the heart pumping like mad... slow it down, then go again...
    Unless, of course, you're old and badly out of shape.
    Actually there's no problem getting your heart to go like crazy when you're older, it's slowing it down that can be a problem after strenuous exercise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota View Post
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    Fartlek

    Steve Ovett based his training on this.

    https://www.verywell.com/what-is-far...aining-2911954
    There is a similar function on the threadmill at my gym. Fast run at 5% inclination then slow down, 12 times. I usually do it at the end of the session, it's good to build endurance.
    Yes, I'm doing this... running for miles is so boring... I don't know how people can sustain the will to go on, playing some kind of sport seems so much more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    HIT high intensity training - is in vogue now
    can be dangerous. fk ups don't give you a warning. strokes, heart attacks.

    steady as you go. and when your body wants to go further, all's good.

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    ^ That's just it, billy...Take it slow and easy...As ENT says up there:


    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Actually there's no problem getting your heart to go like crazy when you're older,
    Very good point...Then you just "walk it off" for a few minutes...While still maintaining your "training effect"...

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