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    I'd check it out.

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    How many times do you urinate during a 24-hour period?...

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    Five or six half pints a time at a guess,.....unless y're one of those who get up for a pee at night, frequently..= see yr doctor.

    Maybe up to 8 times a waking day.

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    As far as I know, there are two issues with fasting.....though I do hasten to add that I think it's very rejuvenating for a person.

    Mostly they are because of longish fasts. The first is that if it's a water fast, your stomach shrinks and it's then difficult to get back into eating.

    The second (and far more serious) is that as you have no protein intake, after your body takes the protein it needs ( for everyday metabolic activities) from your largest muscles, it takes some from your heart muscle. Not good.

    I think intermittent fasting is best :

    This Is What Really Happens To Your Body When You Practice ?Intermittent Fasting"

    Fasting For Three Days Can Regenerate Entire Immune System, Study Finds

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    Yup. Intermittent fasting works, usually tied to your own feelings, the best friends you've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    How many times do you urinate during a 24-hour period?...
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    Pshaw!

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    Day 22?...

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    yeah. And feeling normal, except for very slight hunger pains momentarily (wouldn't worth mentioning if wasn't for those days after my 4 hour walk) but I'm staying full of water. BTW, someone asked how many times I peed at night: last night once, right in the middle of a deep 10 hour deep sleep (had stayed up all night the night before). I haven't peed since I woke up 6 hours ago, so I just might be only re-hydrating right now. After I am fully hydrated, I'll drink just enough water to keep me that way for the rest of the day.

    What's new and not expected but fun. I feel really weak in my arms and legs from tasks like washing my hands, lol. So this morning I checked out my arms in the mirror, which, along with my legs, I wouldn't mind leaving the same size as before I started the fast and they were the same size and still no flab (like squeezing under my triceps and no flab and I can still show a bicep pump). Even my legs got week waiting for me to finish washing my hands, although I didn't feel week at all taking a long shower, just breathing a little harder, if that. So constant movement has something to do with the weakness. But when I walk across the block to the mall, I don't feel either of those fasting symptoms. But those are the only ones so far. And I don't feel either symptom writing this post...heh.

    But I do have a weight loss goal, finding my body weight set point, which was 160 lbs the last time I found it and is only 11 lbs away, if it hasn't changed since 1980. But proof I found it won't be until five days passes w/o losing weight. So b/c of the way I felt yesterday and today, including the looks, I'm almost 100% sure I won't stop at 30 days regardless. I know I can go up to 60 days safely. But I was at least half way to 160 lbs on day 21, which means I could get to my set point in 42 days plus 5 test days: total 47 days, prolly more than that b/c I'm guessing the rate of weight loss will get lower gradually until it finally gets to 0 or close enough to it. I really love this fasting!

    P.S. BIG THANKS to mods for allowing these long posts, as well as the time it takes moi to write them!

    Edit: I just peed for the first time since getting up and I'm hydrated.
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    Ah wbj, you're doing better than those cannibals who crashed in the Andes (l9l).
    Keep up the good work. Maybe consider setting yourself into the Gulf on a dingy with an electric salt water conversion kit to assure your fast is in place. Rowing will provide you with some aerobic exercise as well.
    Take care of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Ah wbj, you're doing better than those cannibals who crashed in the Andes (l9l).
    Keep up the good work. Maybe consider setting yourself into the Gulf on a dingy with an electric salt water conversion kit to assure your fast is in place. Rowing will provide you with some aerobic exercise as well.
    Take care of yourself.
    Thank you.

    There is one thing I forgot to tell to everybody. The temptation that being around food, esp. smells, presents me that I think would defeat me, if I couldn't control my environment so well. Even though I couldn't stop thinking about how hungry I felt (but w/o pangs) yesterday afternoon, as well as right now. But it wasn't stronger than the hunger I used to feel every day on my warrior's diet and I used to work 8-10 hours 5 days a week and work out for 2 hours 5 or 6 days a week, always with good results, anyways. But, God, am I looking forward to eating again!

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    Day at a time, mate...You sound pretty positive today, wj...But 60 days?...

    Get to 30 days first...It's still a solid week away...

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    What about the sex wjb. has that blown yer socks off yet ?

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    And I was the one asking how many times you urinate per day...Sounds like you described one day/night there where you pissed the bed, I take it?...And then just another once or twice?...

    What about an average day?...Seems you'd be spurting it out at least 8 times, wouldn't you?...I suppose your body would retain some fluid, but it's flushing you, as well...

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    ^^ His arms are too weak to wank, billy...Heh...

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    Years ago my pal Bob went on a 30 day fast, water with a squeeze of lemon and a spot of honey.
    At around three weeks into the fast he could hardly walk, let alone pick something up.

    Skinny as a snake by then, but he survived.

    He also erupted in seeping sores, explained them as his body's way of getting rid of toxins.
    Duno about that, though.

    Here's an interesting article on fasting, WJB, very informative.
    Greek Medicine: FASTING AND PURIFICATION

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    Day at a time, mate...You sound pretty positive today, wj...But 60 days?...

    Get to 30 days first...It's still a solid week away...
    Absolutely true...one day at a time.

    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    What about the sex wjb. has that blown yer socks off yet ?
    There's nothing wrong with my sex organ and I don't "wank off", no matter what BB says. But what made you ask that question?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    And I was the one asking how many times you urinate per day...Sounds like you described one day/night there where you pissed the bed, I take it?...And then just another once or twice?...

    What about an average day?...Seems you'd be spurting it out at least 8 times, wouldn't you?...I suppose your body would retain some fluid, but it's flushing you, as well...
    yeah, sounds about right. Maybe 10-12 times.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    His arms are too weak to wank, billy...Heh...
    ...heh...

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Here's an interesting article on fasting, WJB, very informative.
    Thanks for the link. I'll read it. Cheers all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjblaney View Post
    I don't "wank off", no matter what BB says. But what made you ask that question?
    You need a wank (or a shag) every few days at least, to lower the risk of developing prostate cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    But what made you ask that question?
    Mate did something with brown rice and water only, to rid his body of poisons
    also lasted 3 or 4 weeks.
    Said getting his rocks off was explosive after 2 or 3 weeks.
    His lady had a bigger smile on her face to boot.
    Mind she was a beauty.
    Even the Times gave her a job. Foxy lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    Mate did something with brown rice and water only, to rid his body of poisons
    also lasted 3 or 4 weeks.
    Said getting his rocks off was explosive after 2 or 3 weeks.
    His lady had a bigger smile on her face to boot.
    Mind she was a beauty.
    Even the Times gave her a job. Foxy lady.
    Aphrodisiac, eh? And gets rid of toxins? I have never heard of a high carb diet that would do that but it's true.

    Brown Rice Diet 1
    The first brown rice diet approach requires eating five to six small meals of brown rice each day for as long as two weeks. The rice is cooked in water with no other ingredients. For this version of the brown rice detox, no other food is eaten. Liquids include drinking eight to ten glasses of pure water each day and fresh vegetable juice is also allowed but only occasionally. Those who follow this rice and water eating pattern believe the toxins will be cleansed from their system within the two weeks.
    Brown Rice Diet 2
    The second version of the brown rice detox is a more balanced approach. Along with brown rice, this version recommends eating fruits and vegetables, preferably raw. In fact, homeopaths who recommend this diet suggest that only organic, raw fruits and vegetables be ingested. Plenty of water and limited recommended and fresh fruit juice is also permitted.

    This version of the brown rice detox is followed for one week. It eliminates all processed foods from the diet, but does offer more meal variations that the plain brown rice meals of version one. For example, you can eat fruit and brown rice for breakfast, plain brown rice for lunch, and vegetables and brown rice for dinner. While food choices are limited, dieters are allowed to eat as much of any of these foods as they want throughout the day.
    The first version of this detox diet limits a person to eating brown rice only. It is not a healthy or balanced approach to dieting as it lacks in necessary nutrients. However, the second version of this diet does include fruits, vegetables, healthy whole grain and fresh water. It could be considered a healthy, low-fat vegetarian diet that could lead to weight loss.
    Only go with Brown Rice Diet 2.

    From: Brown Rice Detox Diet

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    Day 23...

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    I've gone on a brown rice diet with salt, a limited amounts of veg (1 tablespoon per day) and plenty of water, and sometimes a few herbs (mint, sage, parsley) thrown in a mug of hot water.

    Lasted 3 months on that.

    I was strong enough on that diet to carry on tree felling and hauling and building a house, eight hours a day in the Queensland heat.

    Broke my fast on a big breakfast of bacon, sausage, chops, eggs, fried potatoes and tomatoes and mushrooms washed down with mugs of black tea with sugar.

    Then went off to work cutting cane.

    No problems.

    I think the big trick in fasting is to keep up your mineral levels and have a good shit every day, otherwise, especially on a total fast with water, no solids in the bowels will leave you unable to shit right until you ease your bowels into normal function again at the end of the fast by only eating soft fruit and veges and drinking fruit juices, slowly reducing the amount of water drunk.

    DON'T eat carbs like rice, flour, bread, pasta etc to break a water fast, you'll get horribly constipated. Start with fruit or vege purees and then slowly progress to soups with more body in them.

    Another good food is vegemite/marmite dissolved in a mug of hot water, a big energy boost with lotsa Vit Bs.

    Whatever, dietary balance is the most important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    Day 23...
    Yeah, and kudos to you for following me.

    I have something to add about today. I was always taught not to be vain or narcissistic about my looks and I still believe that. But I know I wasn't disgusted with them either when I reached my body weight set point in 1980, even though I still had belly fat. I also learned that being obese, which I was between 1975 and 1980, will raise your body set point. I read articles titled "you've reached your set point, now what?", with a picture of a fat woman standing on a scale. Obviously, the set point does not automatically coincide with your weight loss goals. Today, I'm more than half way to that same set point (160 lbs) and I'm still disgusted. Therefore, I will stay on this fast, until there is no more belly fat (that's the first place fat gets stored on most men. The second place is prolly the buttocks. That's not a worry as I have gotten a firm butt in the gym) or I reach my set point. If the latter is true, weight loss will still be my primary goal after I have gotten fit again. The amount of time that takes is irrelevant. But thank god I found a body building web site with an answer on how to lower your set point: How to Change Your Body Weight Set Point | Muscle For Life

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I've gone on a brown rice diet with salt, a limited amounts of veg (1 tablespoon per day) and plenty of water, and sometimes a few herbs (mint, sage, parsley) thrown in a mug of hot water.

    Lasted 3 months on that.

    I was strong enough on that diet to carry on tree felling and hauling and building a house, eight hours a day in the Queensland heat.

    Broke my fast on a big breakfast of bacon, sausage, chops, eggs, fried potatoes and tomatoes and mushrooms washed down with mugs of black tea with sugar.

    Then went off to work cutting cane.

    No problems.

    I think the big trick in fasting is to keep up your mineral levels and have a good shit every day, otherwise, especially on a total fast with water, no solids in the bowels will leave you unable to shit right until you ease your bowels into normal function again at the end of the fast by only eating soft fruit and veges and drinking fruit juices, slowly reducing the amount of water drunk.

    DON'T eat carbs like rice, flour, bread, pasta etc to break a water fast, you'll get horribly constipated. Start with fruit or vege purees and then slowly progress to soups with more body in them.

    Another good food is vegemite/marmite dissolved in a mug of hot water, a big energy boost with lotsa Vit Bs.

    Whatever, dietary balance is the most important thing.
    Yeah, I totally agree with this post and don't find any contradiction with it and Diet plan 2 of The Brown Rice diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Broke my fast on a big breakfast of bacon, sausage, chops, eggs, fried potatoes and tomatoes and mushrooms washed down with mugs of black tea with sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Broke my fast on a big breakfast of bacon, sausage, chops, eggs, fried potatoes and tomatoes and mushrooms washed down with mugs of black tea with sugar.
    Temptation...the enemy of self-discipline

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