Thread: Fasting

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Please read my post #5 I spoke to my eldest daughter in the UK yesterday, as to how much her late mother lost in weight cos she went with her, my late wife lost just short of 2.5 kilo's and my daughter who is a "big girl" lost 3 (that was by their scales before and after)

That's not bad for 10 days. Did they keep it off? That is the key to me. And how you break the fast is prolly as important as the fast itself. This is how I plan to break my fast:

The first step is to increase the digestive fire. This is done by breaking the fast by drinking lemon juice or orange juice. Only lemon or orange juice should be taken about 3 – 5 times in a day. If one feels too much hunger, add half a spoon of pure honey to the juice, to get some calories.

Continue this for the second day too.

On the third day after the fast, one can go on light vegetable soups, coconut water or fruit juice 3 – 5 times in a day. Some may also be able to take light milk (milk with equal amount of water), while some may find it hard to digest.

On the fourth day, one can have fruits and boiled vegetables as they are easy to digest.

On the fifth day onwards one can get back to normal diet along with fruits and boiled vegetables. At this point one has to be careful. There is a tendency to overeat and overload the stomach. One can eat smaller amounts a number of times, rather than eating too much once or twice. One should eat in moderation and slowly come back to the regular food habits.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Please read my post #5 I spoke to my eldest daughter in the UK yesterday, as to how much her late mother lost in weight cos she went with her, my late wife lost just short of 2.5 kilo's and my daughter who is a "big girl" lost 3 (that was by their scales before and after)

That's not bad for 10 days. Did they keep it off? That is the key to me. And how you break the fast is prolly as important as the fast itself. This is how I plan to break my fast:

The first step is to increase the digestive fire. This is done by breaking the fast by drinking lemon juice or orange juice. Only lemon or orange juice should be taken about 3 – 5 times in a day. If one feels too much hunger, add half a spoon of pure honey to the juice, to get some calories.

Continue this for the second day too.

On the third day after the fast, one can go on light vegetable soups, coconut water or fruit juice 3 – 5 times in a day. Some may also be able to take light milk (milk with equal amount of water), while some may find it hard to digest.

On the fourth day, one can have fruits and boiled vegetables as they are easy to digest.

On the fifth day onwards one can get back to normal diet along with fruits and boiled vegetables. At this point one has to be careful. There is a tendency to overeat and overload the stomach. One can eat smaller amounts a number of times, rather than eating too much once or twice. One should eat in moderation and slowly come back to the regular food habits.

As far as I can remember my late wife stayed more or less the same weight all her life, 'having said that she worked out every day even when on our holidays abroad , and even when she was pregnant and ate a very well balanced diet with not too much red meat and neither drank or smoked .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

As far as I can remember my late wife stayed more or less the same weight all her life, 'having said that she worked out every day even when on our holidays abroad , and even when she was pregnant and ate a very well balanced diet with not too much red meat and neither drank or smoked.

You're going to make me start crying. Seriously. The grief is still deep, isn't it?

Every doctor I've heard, either speaking or online has said that crash diets, fasting
and detox programs offer absolutely no medical benefit.

Might you consider doing some reading of quality medical literature before continuing this?

Good luck and don't get dehydrated, that can be hell in this heat.

Piwanoi, that's a beautiful reminder...Cheers...

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Piwanoi, that's a beautiful reminder...Cheers...

I have kept that card with the poem and her photo on in my drawer ever since I arrived here in Thailand Nov 17 2003

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Piwanoi, that's a beautiful reminder...Cheers...

I have kept that card with the poem and her photo on in my drawer ever since I arrived here in Thailand Nov 17 2003

I greened you just now, piwanoi, for that poem and even though I didn't read the post fully and discover myself there was a beautiful poem in it, ya can't red me for that, can ya?

Anyway, I kept on with my stupid fasting remark, didn't I? And finding out you have another wife and family now is keeping the tears from rising.

BB, your post of appreciation is the best post, by any forum member this year, IMNSFHO.

That's all I can do to apologize for my ignorance. So I'm going to repost just the poem here in all it's beauty:

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Love me me now as you've loved me before
I've gone through the doorway but don't shut the door
for if you shut the door it will keep us apart
my voice won't be heard deep in your heart
for the handle you see is on your side
and to open or close it you must decide
if you leave it open the love can pass through
from you to me and from me to you
so keep that door open let my memory live on
don't ever believe that the real me has gone
for once you believe that I will cease to be
you'll be closing that door and turning the key
so get on with your life you have much to do
Don't forget me for I won't forget you
and although our rooms are on different floors
we can talk to each other through that open door

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Piwanoi, that's a beautiful reminder...Cheers...

I have kept that card with the poem and her photo on in my drawer ever since I arrived here in Thailand Nov 17 2003

I greened you just now, piwanoi, for that poem and even though I didn't read the post fully and discover myself there was a beautiful poem in it, ya can't red me for that, can ya?

Anyway, I kept on with my stupid fasting remark, didn't I? And finding out you have another wife and family now is keeping the tears from rising.

BB, your post of appreciation is the best post, by any forum member this year, IMNSFHO.

That's all I can do to apologize for my ignorance. So I'm going to repost just the poem here in all it's beauty:

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Love me me now as you've loved me before
I've gone through the doorway but don't shut the door
for if you shut the door it will keep us apart
my voice won't be heard deep in your heart
for the handle you see is on your side
and to open or close it you must decide
if you leave it open the love can pass through
from you to me and from me to you
so keep that door open let my memory live on
don't ever believe that the real me has gone
for once you believe that I will cease to be
you'll be closing that door and turning the key
so get on with your life you have much to do
Don't forget me for I won't forget you
and although our rooms are on different floors
we can talk to each other through that open door

No probs ,WJ ,keep up the good work

Hey WJ, I have sent you a PM .

That poem touched me, bro.

Lucky I'm wearing dark glasses anyway. Easy to hide a tear or 2.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

That poem touched me, bro.

Lucky I'm wearing dark glasses anyway. Easy to hide a tear or 2.

Are they the same dark glasses you used to wear after your Muay Thai fights ?

55 nah, I am proud of my scars/bruises...win lose or draw.

I just read your poem to my wife.. her dad passed away when she was 27 (cancer). One of the very few times I've seen her tear up. Very strong woman (much, much stronger than me) 55

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Hey WJ, I have sent you a PM .

About Baking Soda??? WTF?

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Hey WJ, I have sent you a PM .

About Baking Soda??? WTF?

My daughter who's a professional dietician swears by it , also I have been proscribed it too but in tablet form .

15 day water fast update: day 5

Been feeling good practically all day. Learned what true hunger is: it's felt in the mouth and throat. That's the sign to quit. It's after that point that you start starving yourself. Hunger pangs in the stomach, no matter how much they hurt, shouldn't stop you. I haven't even been feeling hunger pangs.

Read one forum thread where a poster said he is in day 16 of a 21 day water fast and he started feeling true hunger on day 14 even though he knows exactly what it means. Another poster commented that feeling true hunger after only 14 days was unusual. He claimed most people don't start feeling it until about day 30-40. Nice to know how it is supposed to feel.

Exercise other than walking, i.e., anything strenuous like lifting weights, is out of the question for the duration. However, today it felt like I could have but I have a strained pectoral muscle and upper body lifting most likely won't be considered until after the fast is over, however it should end. Anyway, curious how long I will be able to walk for before feeling really weak. Will have to stay close to home. Also, heard a recommendation to take no more than 10 minute walks. We'll see.

^^ Dilly, it's a good thing I don't eat red meat. Muah.

^55 years ago as a young kid I used to work with a guy who had been taken a prisoner by the Japanese and was incarcerated in Changi jail in Singapore the symptoms he felt which he told me about whilst he was a guest there was similar to what you will be feeling at the end of your fast

However, I don't think I'm going to invite any mosquitoes or other pestilential creatures to keep me company.

I had a friend who did that water diet. he's dead now, no kidding.

When he was doing that diet he mentioned he couldn't concentrate and was hallucinating. He lost about 6kgs in about a week though.

Stupid idea if you ask me.

I bought 5 days worth of a detox juice diet. You get 6 juices a day I think I managed 2 days before stuffing my boat

Likesay, it's a highly debated and controversial subject. Therefore, I won't argue if fasting is healthy.

Why not stop drinking water as well, 70% of your body is water.

Some people have gone 8-10 days without it.

These bodybuilders who turn up for competitions dont drink anything the day before to make their muscles stand out.

Or maybe just stop being such a vain bastard

As a fat bastard of over 100kg (at 1 meter 80 in height) I'm beginning a new two meal a day regime (skipping dinner). A daily mini-fast of sorts. I've done this before with quite good results. Probably gonna have to stick with it for the rest of my life.....