Thread: Nasty chest infection hangin in.

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

You think it works?

"There is no evidence that colloidal silver treats or prevents any medical condition..."

Actually the best advice is probably not to seek medical advice on an Internet forum.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Actually the best advice is probably not to seek medical advice on an Internet forum.

INdeed - the best advice is to go to a doctor who will prescribe antibiotics because thats what his Pfizer internet forum will tell him to do, despite the fact that if AB's would cure it.... they would have already.

Anyway Tezza -

Legionnaire Disease - insist on being checked for that. Bet the aircon in your hovel condo has never been serviced and will be a ripe old breeding ground for LD>

Originally Posted by pseudolus

INdeed - the best advice is to go to a doctor who will prescribe antibiotics because thats what his Pfizer internet forum will tell him to do, despite the fact that if AB's would cure it.... they would have already.

Yeah but

colloidal silver

nah.

Originally Posted by terry57

^^ ^

It invaded my sinuses and head last week.

Fok me, every time I coughed it felt like some bastard was smacking me with a hammer.

It's gone from my head but still in my nose and chest.

Terry you live in Bangkok which has terrible air quality and does not assist when one has chest infections.
I had a similar experience several years ago when a chesty cough developed into what the doctor diagnosed as a bronchial infection. I eventually recovered after about six weeks but only when I persisted with the prescribed drug of choice, Augmentin, which is amoxycillin combined with potassium clavulanate.

I still suffered recurrences on a regular basis throughout my time in Bangkok but since quitting the metropolis for the balmy zephyrs here in Pattaya I haven't suffered at all in the past 18 months( touch wood).

My doctor in the UK advised me that pollution was a bugger for those with chest infections and exacerbated problems in a way many underestimate. Coincidentally, I met a former colleague who suffered from severe asthma attacks whilst he was working in Bangkok and in the end had to quit his job when he retuned to Blighty and recovered almost immediately.

If you want to actually "see " the air quality as it is in Bangkok try getting up early on a clear, still morning during "the cold" as the sun is rising and from a high vantage point you will notice the filthy grey smog laying all over the city. Airborne particles of dust infected with God knows what bacteria left behind after floods of sewage contaminated water have receded can't help.

Bangkok is a shithole. Take yourself off up to Chiang Rai for a month or so and keep taking the antibiotics.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by pseudolus

INdeed - the best advice is to go to a doctor who will prescribe antibiotics because thats what his Pfizer internet forum will tell him to do, despite the fact that if AB's would cure it.... they would have already.

Yeah but

colloidal silver

nah.

Colloidal silver kills viruses. Antibiotics kill bacterial infections.

Colloidal silver can never be patented by big pharma as it is too easy to make at home. Therefore, no major studies into it, no government acceptance, nothing, because there is no money in it for them. Same reason as they will keep cannabis illegal. Grow at home far too easily to be profitable for big pharma.

However, colloidal silver has been used for over a century to kill viruses.

now the fact that you believe there is a separation between big business and governments / government departments is neither here nor there. The stuff works, and if Terry's chest infection is viral, which as antibiotics has not touched it, certainly seems to be the case, ingesting high quality colloidal silver will help.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Colloidal silver kills viruses. Antibiotics kill bacterial infections.

Colloidal silver can never be patented by big pharma as it is too easy to make at home. Therefore, no major studies into it, no government acceptance, nothing, because there is no money in it for them. Same reason as they will keep cannabis illegal. Grow at home far too easily to be profitable for big pharma.

However, colloidal silver has been used for over a century to kill viruses.

now the fact that you believe there is a separation between big business and governments / government departments is neither here nor there. The stuff works, and if Terry's chest infection is viral, which as antibiotics has not touched it, certainly seems to be the case, ingesting high quality colloidal silver will help.

Goodo.

Please give me a minute while I weigh the relative merits of medical science as cf. some dude posting anonymously on an Internet forum and promoting the curative/medicinal properties of a modern day Snake Oil(TM)...

































... Yeah, medical science.

Terry, Pseudo. is extolling nothing more than quackery and there is not a single shred of plausible scientific evidence to support the daft contention that silver ingestion is a therapy for viral infection.

He is, patently, quite unwell and appears to be motivated by some weird confrontational, nihilist mania no doubt provoked by continual rejection by normal society.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

now the fact that you believe there is a separation between big business and governments / government departments is neither here nor there

That a "fact" is it.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

... Yeah, medical science.

No such thing these days. Big Pharma - investing heavily in making and keeping people ill. They don't want people cured or better. Just ill. So they have to have their drugs.

All medical universities exist from their hand outs. In exchange, they test their products and give the green light. They also teach doctors how to trust only big pharma, and nothing else.

Nothing that can not be patented and sold at massive costs will ever be approved of validated by any western country. The costs to big pharma would be too much.

Sure - you don't believe it, you want to think that big pharma are trying to cure people. You want to think that the pill they give you is the fix all, and there are no other options.

AntiBiotics - here is your MEDICAL SCIENCE. They treat bacterial infections. The smallest proportion of chest infections are bacterial, and they are usually virul. Antibiotics can not, and never will do anything against viral infections. Medical fact - check it on pfizer website.

So - mr know everything - why having failed with antibiotics is he getting more? Because the big pharma computer system all doctors use to prescribe tells them thats what to do. Your big pharma medical facts will have you believe that antibiotics will cure everything then - is that it?

Antibiotic resistance caused 10m deaths a year. Why? because they are given for ailments that have nothing to do with bacterial infections. Why do doctor chuck them out? because big pharma pays them to and rewards when they do.

Pseudo,

Be that as it may, colloidal silver is not an effective remedy.

The United States and New Zealand are the only two countries where direct-to-consumer (DTC) advertising of prescription drugs is legal.

Easy to understand why you have grown up trusting big pharma so much.

I have used colloidal silver for a long time for varying things. It is brilliant, and unlike big pharma poisons does not require you to take more pills to abate the side effects of it. Because there are no side effects.

It is an effective remedy - but alas, because of all the reasons I have put above, it will never receive a fair clinical trial because there is no money in it for big pharma and the politicians and bureaucrats who are in their pockets.

The greatest threat to human kind is, as we have been told by no less than Einstein, is stupidity and if that was a phenomenon controlled by communication then the advent of the internet has simply let the genie well and truly out of the bottle.

Pseudo is a classic case of the threat posed by stupidity. His particular brand of idiocy is typical of the disease and he is without a doubt a serious threat as posed by the legions of his similarly afflicted followers who may lap up his drivel.

Quite why someone so evidently poorly educated, ignorant and of a less than average quotient of intelligence should wish to expound on matters so obviously outside his limited compass is somewhat mystifying. But then, that's stupidity for you.

^^ Agreed .
Abo's wont clear up viral problems. Only copious amounts of rum over a very short period of time will knock them flat.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I have used colloidal silver for a long time for varying things.

This explains a lot.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The greatest threat to human kind is, as we have been told by no less than Einstein, is stupidity and if that was a phenomenon controlled by communication then the advent of the internet has simply let the genie well and truly out of the bottle.

Pseudo is a classic case of the threat posed by stupidity. His particular brand of idiocy is typical of the disease and he is without a doubt a serious threat as posed by the legions of his similarly afflicted followers who may lap up his drivel.

Quite why someone so evidently poorly educated, ignorant and of a less than average quotient of intelligence should wish to expound on matters so obviously outside his limited compass is somewhat mystifying. But then, that's stupidity for you.

What a load of drivel that is. However, well done for stringing together more than your typical posts

Sorry ringer - but if you are too dumb to see how you are being played then that is up to you. When you are getting pumped full of poison in your cancer bed, sucking sugary sweats before you die, you might wish you had opened your mind a bit and told big pharma to fook off with their mustard gas derived cash cow called Chemo.

Anyway - Terry - research yourself on the dangers of taking antibiotics for virul infections which they will not treat because... for the 100th time... antibiotics only work against bacterial infections, and not viral infections.... and that is seeking aslymums and antknownothings medical science for you as well.


https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/antibiotics.html



Ya see ---- from the big corrupt USA medical board - Even they have to admit that antibiotics will not treat what is ailing Terry.

bunch of idiots.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

It is an effective remedy - but alas, because of all the reasons I have put above, it will never receive a fair clinical trial because there is no money in it for big pharma and the politicians and bureaucrats who are in their pockets.

So there's no money in an effective remedy that's based upon a precious metal so its efficacy is being suppressed.

Ok, got it.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by pseudolus

It is an effective remedy - but alas, because of all the reasons I have put above, it will never receive a fair clinical trial because there is no money in it for big pharma and the politicians and bureaucrats who are in their pockets.

So there's no money in an effective remedy that's based upon a precious metal so its efficacy is being suppressed.

Ok, got it.

Of course not. You can go and buy some silver and make it yourself. How can you be so dumb. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do you know nothing about IP and patenting? Big pharm want to own something exclusively. They could not come to your house and say "heh, I see you made colloidal silver from a silver ear ring. give us a load of money.

Simply devastating levels of stupidity from you, and the BIG problem is that you and seekingabrain will have Terry on more stronger antibiotics, which ultimately could kill him....

Echinacea is another one I found to be ineffective. I have found raw greens like baby spinach to be good at preventing illness.

Happy to put silver/echinacea in the quackery basket.

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

Echinacea

why would it be effective for a viral infection?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by pseudolus

It is an effective remedy - but alas, because of all the reasons I have put above, it will never receive a fair clinical trial because there is no money in it for big pharma and the politicians and bureaucrats who are in their pockets.

So there's no money in an effective remedy that's based upon a precious metal so its efficacy is being suppressed.

Ok, got it.

Of course not. You can go and buy some silver and make it yourself. How can you be so dumb. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do you know nothing about IP and patenting? Big pharm want to own something exclusively. They could not come to your house and say "heh, I see you made colloidal silver from a silver ear ring. give us a load of money.

Simply devastating levels of stupidity from you, and the BIG problem is that you and seekingabrain will have Terry on more stronger antibiotics, which ultimately could kill him....

It is commonly avail in health food stores. Problem is it does stuff all. My whole family tried it. No benefits. Waste of money.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Ya see ---- from the big corrupt USA medical board - Even they have to admit that antibiotics will not treat what is ailing Terry.

bunch of idiots.

The problem here with stupid people is that they don't actually realise just how ignorant and stupid they might be.

Whereas antibiotics have no efficacy against a particular viral infection, we generally rely upon the health of our own immune systems to quell the invasion, they do have a therapy in treating the symptoms of the viral infections which might pose a greater immediate threat than that posed by the virus itself. Bronchial infections arising out of some influenza based viral invasion is a case in point.

Pseud has overlooked this but that is of course no surprise. He is stupid.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by baconandeggs

Echinacea

why would it be effective for a viral infection?

It is useless for anything. Big companies promoted it for years.

^^ Come on then - Show me one resource that says anywhere that ANTIBIOTICS will cure a VIRAL infection. Just one. The symptoms of a Viral infection is caused by a Virus, which can not, never has been, and never will be CURED by a antibiotic. The clue is in the name.

You can treat a head ache with a hammer.... and surely big pharma would advocate that if they could patent it, but it does not mean that the treatment would work. Because like antibiotics against VIRAL infections... a hammer will make a head ache worse. Big pharma, and the idiots who believe them, use the word TREAT. They avoid the word CURE. No money in a CURE. They want people ILL and Sick to get more revenue.

Unbelievable amount of utter hogwash from Seekingabrain there.