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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
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    D'y'wanna tell us all about your problems about your recently acquired smoking and drinking habits you've mentioned on other threads?
    Perhaps YOU could tell us about them, as I don't believe they exist.
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    I always think of JJ Cale's wonderful songs, crystal clear nights in the country, a spliff in the pickup before heading into town and a few beers with the boys before whooping it up with a few gals.
    https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...ml#post1961777

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    Real spliff territory there. A moonlit night in the same place would be magic, too.
    https://teakdoor.com/thailands-travel...ml#post2661861 (4000 Clicks, Thailand, By Motorcycle, Tour 2013 Photographs)

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    Some comments on lobelia by satisfied users;

    'I have recently stopped smoking with the aid of Lobelia and found its effects amazing to say the least.

    I have smoked for 25 years and have tried every quit method you know, more than once, some worked and some didn't, but none have worked quite like Lobelia.

    I started taking the tincture 4 days or so prior to my stop date (3 drops x 5 times daily) and today - day 8, I've used the drops once. I actually feel like I was never a smoker, perhaps it's the right time for me this time but it certainly has been far easier than I imagined. No cravings whatsoever and I really feel that I am thru the worst and its smooth sailing from here ? without any fears!

    The herbs are easy to obtain from a naturopath. If you've wanted to quit but fear has held you back I highly recommend this herb."
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    This wonderful herb can help you quit smoking . I take 3-10 drops 3 times daily or when I feel the urge to smoke or before I eat a meal. It works quickly. There is a slight burning in the back of the throat but soon after the urge to smoke is gone and if you do smoke it tastes horrible.This remedy works because lobelia contains the active ingredient lobeline, which is almost identical to nicotine and has similar effects on the nervous system. A bottle costs around $15.00 in most Canadian health food stores. Try it you might like it.

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    First of all I didn't think Lobelia was going to actually work there was too many "to good to be true" reviews on it. But at $5 a bottle and 100 pills in that bottle I couldn't pass up at least giving it a go. When I first started to take it I was surprised to find that it does reduce cravings and makes your cigarettes taste a bit funky. Honestly its wasn't so much of a funky taste to me that I would of put out and wasted a cigarette. OH and it did help me breathe better.

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    The Best Natural Remedies to Quit Smoking

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    I was 19 and 20 at the time, yer honour.


    BTW, I always thought that a spliff was a thin joint, but it appears that they are a joint with marijuana and tobacco. In which case, you still smoke tobacco, as your quoted post also implies.

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    The oil from cannabis coats your lungs in a film. This doesn't allow the water soluble tobacco to enter the lungs walls due to the oil coating.

    That's why people that smoke weed and cigarettes have the same cancer rate as non-smokers.

    Now this is my own theory, and I expect to win the Nobel Peace Prize once I'm proven right.
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    And after that, you can go down the pub.

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    I quit smoking 19 months ago and have not have one since. But I did take up vaping. Not really that much vaping either. About 1 mil of .06 strength juice daily. Just to keep the edge off. Saved a shit load of money, can taste and smell food, and just generally feel better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I was 19 and 20 at the time, yer honour.


    BTW, I always thought that a spliff was a thin joint, but it appears that they are a joint with marijuana and tobacco. In which case, you still smoke tobacco, as your quoted post also implies.
    I do hear you skippy gubnas mix the herb with tobacco, as do the French and Indians, but it's not a Kiwi habit.

    You pretend to know little about 'spliffs' which you've referred to familiarly several times, then lied saying you never did drink or smoke ,but when your own posts say you're a liar, you try and wriggle out of it with, "I was 19 and 20 at the time.."

    Lies again.

    You necked a couple of beers with iceman when you met a few weeks ago, too.

    And had a couple around Xmas a year or so ago.

    You're obviously a pathological liar.


    I do hear you skippy gubnas mix the herb with tobacco, not a Kiwi habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    The oil from cannabis coats your lungs in a film. This doesn't allow the water soluble tobacco to enter the lungs walls due to the oil coating.

    That's why people that smoke weed and cigarettes have the same cancer rate as non-smokers.

    Now this is my own theory, and I expect to win the Nobel Peace Prize once I'm proven right.
    I've found that those smoking weed mixed with tobacco or those smoking cigs as well as weed, have bad coughs and cough heaps when toking on a joint.

    Vapourizing hash oil or eating the stuff are healthier options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    I quit smoking 19 months ago and have not have one since. But I did take up vaping. Not really that much vaping either. About 1 mil of .06 strength juice daily. Just to keep the edge off. Saved a shit load of money, can taste and smell food, and just generally feel better.
    Congratulations on the effort!

    I thought of buying one of those vapourizers when I first made efforts to quit tobacco, as my daughter in law uses one. But they're expensive, are a customs problem, illegal to use in Cambodia, and a pain in the neck compared to taking a pinch of lobelia if the urge to smoke is annoying me or if I need to relax.

    Otherwise, they're a far better option than inhaling unburnt hydrocarbons and cellulose ash and charcoal to clog up the lungs as one does smoking cigs or spliffs/reefers/joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    Most have started vaping. Which i think is the same as smoking.
    It isn't. Other than the glaringly obvious fact that no tobacco is involved vaping doesn't stink. Most tobacco smokers have no idea how badly they smell, the smell is truly repulsive and the reek lasts and lasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Lobelia chinensis

    Thai name for it is;

    พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง
    Phạnṭhu̒ mị̂ chnid h̄nụ̀ng
    ^ That's an error, ENT. All that says is "one variety of plant". It doesn't mention lobelia.


    According the the website below, the name in Thai is - พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก

    http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic...otanic_id=2276

    Suddenly Ent's post becomes
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Lobelia chinensis

    Grows around Southern China, Assam, N, Burma and N Thailand.
    Last edited by ENT : 13-04-2016 at 07:34 AM.
    Oh dear. Classic Ent. Tries to appear knowledgeable, cuts and pastes the bit that says "Click here for next page". Gets called on it so he edits his own post to remove the evidence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Lobelia chinensis

    Thai name for it is;

    พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง
    Phạnṭhu̒ mị̂ chnid h̄nụ̀ng
    ^ That's an error, ENT. All that says is "one variety of plant". It doesn't mention lobelia.


    According the the website below, the name in Thai is - พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก

    http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic...otanic_id=2276

    Suddenly Ent's post becomes
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Lobelia chinensis

    Grows around Southern China, Assam, N, Burma and N Thailand.
    Last edited by ENT : 13-04-2016 at 07:34 AM.
    Oh dear. Classic Ent. Tries to appear knowledgeable, cuts and pastes the bit that says "Click here for next page". Gets called on it so he edits his own post to remove the evidence!

    Another one of your ad hominem misquotes, liar.

    I edited my post to delete the mis-translation of lobelia chinensis, as pointed out by Neverna.

    Nothing else.

    "Click here for next page" was not in my post either, maggot.

    You might notice that Neverna's attempt at google translate was also a fail.
    Last edited by ENT; 16-04-2016 at 07:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    Otherwise, they're a far better option than inhaling unburnt hydrocarbons and cellulose ash and charcoal to clog up the lungs as one does smoking cigs or spliffs/reefers/joints.
    E-cigarettes are no safer than smoking tobacco, scientists warn


    10 Facts That Everyone Gets Wrong About Vaping


    Doctors caution users of e-cigarettes, say vaping is worse than smoking the real thing - KJRH.com

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    Now shall I post up why vaping is less dangerous than tobacco smoking? LD have you ever tried vaping?

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    No...I gave up tobacco in 1976....but I remember it was rather difficult.

    My father died years ago, after having been a smoker for 40 years. He rationalized smoking till the day he died of it (heart attack, caused by clogged arteries. Apparently cholesterol builds up twice as fast in smokers as in non-smokers).

    I posted the links above because I have seen quite a few similar.

    One of the issues appears to be that there are compounds in the liquid which do not appear in cigarette smoke.

    I think it's appropriate to have a debate on this thread about whether vaping is better, the same, or worse.....as long as ENT doesn't get too shitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    No...I gave up tobacco in 1976....but I remember it was rather difficult.
    At the ripe old age of 20?

    Was that after you'd become an expert in karate and as you claimed, even before Bruce Lee became famous?

    Must have really fwkd up yer training, eh?







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    Never said I was an expert....and just that I'd happened to do it before he became world famous (which was in 1973).

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    When you were 17 yoa.

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    18. So what ? You know nothing of when I started training, or which systems I learnt.

    Go take some lobelia....you seem to be slightly manic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    18. So what ? You know nothing of when I started training, or which systems I learnt.
    Yr post# 66 "Never said I was an expert....and just that I'd happened to do it before he became world famous (which was in 1973)"

    So you trained before Lee became famous in 1973, which makes
    you 16 < 17 yoa at the time, not 18 yoa, as you now claim.

    You can't even keep your 'facts' straight as you lie.

    I suppose then, that you smoked your way through all that training, (was it 2 weeks or two years or more?) and beyond until 20 yoa.

    So, in fact, you became an inveterate heavy smoker by the time you were 20 yoa and wisely decided then to quit the dreaded weed.

    Is that so?

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    You really do split hairs, don't you ?

    It all depends on which part of the year I was born in ?

    Get a life, idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    You really do split hairs, don't you ?

    It all depends on which part of the year I was born in ?

    Get a life, idiot.
    Sprung!


    Stop moving the goal posts, you're forgetting where you put them, and what your last lies were, so you end up contradicting yourself, which is normal for pathological liars, it's compulsive.

    Just stop lying and pretending you're knowledgeable in things you have no measureable experience in, as anyone with even half a brain can see through your pretenses.

    Lobelia can't help you with your bad habit, LSD may.


    Talking of which, LSD is another useful drug used in addiction therapy.

    Hard drug users as well as alcoholics have been able to give up their habits after going on a course of the drug, along with counselling, of course




    Vitamin B3 (Nicotinic Acid) in large enough doses of aprox 3gm/day has been found to reduce cravings for nicotine.

    Don't underestimate the health benefits of Vit B3, as current research on its effects indicate that it could be the life giving drug of the future, as it has been found that Nicotinic Acid Riboside more than doubled the lifespan of flatworms and mice.

    Not only that, but age related diseases in mice diminished to the point that mice of the equivalent age of 60 yoa in humans started leaping around and behaving like juveniles, and cancers, arteriosclerosis, and diabetes symptoms in these mice also diminished, as their telomeres also repaired.

    Bloody brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    Just stop lying and pretending you're knowledgeable in things you have no measureable experience in, as anyone with even half a brain can see through your pretenses.


    ENT....the great projector.

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    I love the juxtaposition of these two sections ......you really are twisted.

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Just stop lying and pretending you're knowledgeable in things you have no measureable experience in, as anyone with even half a brain can see through your pretenses.


    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Vitamin B3 (Nicotinic Acid) in large enough doses of aprox 3gm/day has been found to reduce cravings for nicotine.

    Don't underestimate the health benefits of Vit B3, as current research on its effects indicate that it could be the life giving drug of the future, as it has been found that Nicotinic Acid Riboside more than doubled the lifespan of flatworms and mice.

    Not only that, but age related diseases in mice diminished to the point that mice of the equivalent age of 60 yoa in humans started leaping around and behaving like juveniles, and cancers, arteriosclerosis, and diabetes symptoms in these mice also diminished, as their telomeres also repaired.

    Bloody brilliant!

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    You're blind as well as stupid. Read it again.

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