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    Ermm....
    Small producers already sell it to the big boys direct here.

    The big boys now produce their own check bins for the small producer to sign.

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    Jeff 2258.
    I'm not over involved but I would still like more info.

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    When you want to invest in anything, you need to put in money. In this world there are no free meal. If you want to make better profits, you need to do it profesionally. Do some research first and don't just ask around. A lot of people thought they knows all and start giving advise. You will find out latter that what they advised is just what they think is best for them. Want to know more, ask the research institute for rubber. You will get all the information you need, from planning and profits making. Good luck and God bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff2258 View Post
    When you want to invest in anything, you need to put in money. In this world there are no free meal. If you want to make better profits, you need to do it profesionally. Do some research first and don't just ask around. A lot of people thought they knows all and start giving advise. You will find out latter that what they advised is just what they think is best for them. Want to know more, ask the research institute for rubber. You will get all the information you need, from planning and profits making. Good luck and God bless.

    prezacterly!

    do your homework extensively, and try to gain an advantage.
    include all costs, risks and pitfalls into your calculation of the profit margin.

    then halve what you came up with, and you should be just about on target.


    ....and NEVER, EVER listen to the local "experts" who have done it before or are presently doing it "successfully":
    there is no such thing as a thai businessman/farmer who is failing/going bust! (the thai "face" thing doesn't allow for admitting to failure)




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    Interesting thread, good to see some genuine numbers. Have got some trees in Isaan and waiting for them to be able to be tapped. Should be next year with a bit of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwinev View Post
    Interesting thread, good to see some genuine numbers. Have got some trees in Isaan and waiting for them to be able to be tapped. Should be next year with a bit of luck.
    For those who maybe interested today is selling day for us. So later when we have sold I can give you this months take. Jim

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    Selling is all done and not a bad result. The price is down, but 1 month and 4 days of production netted 125000 Baht. After costs, wages etc we will be able to eat for another month. Jim

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    ^Did you say that was from 1000 trees ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaiYinYin View Post
    ^Did you say that was from 1000 trees ?
    No about 2300 trees. The1000 number was what we opened this year. Jim

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    Jim.
    Can you give us a breakdown on the 125K.
    Number of trees costs etc again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    Jim.
    Can you give us a breakdown on the 125K.
    Number of trees costs etc again.
    I already have, last month you asked the same question and the anwser is what I wrote last time. Jim

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    If I remember rightly that's twice odd what the Thai government state.
    Actually let me go back and read again. I think that's alot more.
    Hang on.
    Would suggest output from 100 and a little bit more rai for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    If I remember rightly that's twice odd what the Thai government state.
    Actually let me go back and read again. I think that's alot more.
    Hang on.
    Would suggest output from 100 and a little bit more rai for a year.
    Can't really follow what you are asking.
    Thai Gov state. I think you are refering to the Gov stats for rubber per rai, Take no notice of that. It is an averge of all land with rubber new/old, dead trees. As I said earlier if you don;t take care of the trees from the start you won't get the return.
    Again 100 Rai of good clones that have been cared for or 100 Rai of lumber. There is no anwser. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Selling is all done and not a bad result. The price is down, but 1 month and 4 days of production netted 125000 Baht. After costs, wages etc we will be able to eat for another month. Jim
    That's not bad, Jim. More than I was expecting. Look forward to more numbers.

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    Hi everyone,

    Ive recently been to Rayong and was told by my Thai GF that investing in rubber plantation is a good investment. I found this forum when searching online. THe numbers shes given are a little different than whats being passed around in the threads. Is this really a good investment?

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    It's a good investment for her as the land will be in her name.

    Seriously it's 50 50.
    The prob is that the rubber land in Rayong is expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheetah View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Ive recently been to Rayong and was told by my Thai GF that investing in rubber plantation is a good investment. I found this forum when searching online. THe numbers shes given are a little different than whats being passed around in the threads. Is this really a good investment?
    Hi the answer to your question is probably no, it is not a good investment. There are 2 ways to grow rubber the right way and the Thai way. If you spend the money and are there to make sure the work is done, you will make a good return, but if you leave it to the family etc when time comes to tap you will not get enough rubber from your half to by beer. Jim

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    Anyhow.
    If you go for it in Rayong drop me a line.
    The family have been doing this years.
    JC is correct, if you invest big then returns will be better, as a percentage of your initial capital however, dunno.
    DO NOT let your family do the work, you won,t see any money back.
    Aside that if they have not got the experience they can mess up yout trees.

    BTW JC.
    The new land is yeilding as much as yours.
    Falling asleep and waking up is not the same as passing out and coming to.

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    [quote=the dogcatcher;1555146]Anyhow.
    If you go for it in Rayong drop me a line.
    The family have been doing this years.
    JC is correct, if you invest big then returns will be better, as a percentage of your initial capital however, dunno.
    DO NOT let your family do the work, you won,t see any money back.
    Aside that if they have not got the experience they can mess up yout trees.

    BTW JC.
    The new land is yeilding as much as yours.[/quoteGood to hear you are making a return, hope you are getting more than me at the moment. I was thinking of building an Ark if the rains don't stop. Losing about half of our tapping days due to rain. Jim

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    Thanks for the heads up

    what do you think about these figures:

    70 trees per rai

    For 30 rai 250kg/day!!?? for 20 days a month = 5,000kg/month for 30 rai


    1 kilo raw rubber sells at 100Baht

    these sound right?

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    [quote=jamescollister;1555188]
    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    Anyhow.
    If you go for it in Rayong drop me a line.
    The family have been doing this years.
    JC is correct, if you invest big then returns will be better, as a percentage of your initial capital however, dunno.
    DO NOT let your family do the work, you won,t see any money back.
    Aside that if they have not got the experience they can mess up yout trees.

    BTW JC.
    The new land is yeilding as much as yours.[/quoteGood to hear you are making a return, hope you are getting more than me at the moment. I was thinking of building an Ark if the rains don't stop. Losing about half of our tapping days due to rain. Jim
    I factored the rain in Jim.

    Cheetah, these figure you are quoting come from where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheetah View Post
    Thanks for the heads up

    what do you think about these figures:

    70 trees per rai

    For 30 rai 250kg/day!!?? for 20 days a month = 5,000kg/month for 30 rai


    1 kilo raw rubber sells at 100Baht

    these sound right?
    Sounds like your gfs estimates.

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    GF figures.

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    On those figs we would be turning over 200 K pounds sterling a year.
    Ermm not.
    Known this girl long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheetah View Post
    Thanks for the heads up

    what do you think about these figures:

    70 trees per rai

    For 30 rai 250kg/day!!?? for 20 days a month = 5,000kg/month for 30 rai


    1 kilo raw rubber sells at 100Baht

    these sound right?
    They sound like dream world, think you are confusing liquid latex with solid rubber. RM600 trees will produce 5 kilos a year if they have been taken care of the right way and maybe 2 kilos a year if they have been taken care of the Thai way.Otherwise every small planter would be driving a brand new BMW. Jim

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