Aji Umba. Or how to spice up your life. Twice!

**Thungsongsausage** · 05-12-2009, 10:57 AM

Cheers!! I can't wait to get these growing.........

**BosseO** · 07-12-2009, 09:21 PM

Hi Gipsy, another request if there is any left. Wifey says that she really want to try them.
I'm in doubt though if there is any place left in her 'kitchen garden' but she will always find a place for some new edibles. Not sure about if it is her or the dog that leads the hole making in our garden. PM on its way.

We sure like it hot.

**pekerwud** · 09-12-2009, 06:24 PM

A million thanks Gipsy. The seeds arrived today and I will start them tomorrow unless you suggest other wise. Seeing the good quantity of seeds that you sent, I will pass some of them on to friends that will appreciate them too. Thank you.

**Gipsy** · 09-12-2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by pekerwud

and I will start them tomorrow unless you suggest other wise

No... go ahead! Good luck growing them.

**Marmite the Dog** · 09-12-2009, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by superman

Originally Posted by Gipsy

only doubt if the ones sold in UK supermarkets really come from Jamaica, or are grown in greenhouses in Europe, and have the same 'level of heat'

Where they're grown is incidental to their flavour, I'm afraid to say. Just because a plant is grown in a cool climate doesn't mean it will be less hotter than those grown in a hot climate. Or maybe I'm wrong ?

No. You're right.

Only a couple of years ago the world's hottest chillies were grown in the UK. I have seen that someone else has more recently taken that claim to fame, but it is the variety that is important, not the heat of the sun.

**Gipsy** · 09-12-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

No. You're right.

MtD, I think the pepper you were referring to (grown in the UK) is called the Dorset Naga, another name for the Bhut Jolokia.

While the Red Savina pepper, (Scoville rating: 350,000–580,000 units) a cultivar of the habanero chile (as is the Adji Umba) and for a long time regarded as the hottest pepper in the world, it was replaced by the Bhut Jolokia in 2007, (Scoville rating: 855,000–1,050,000 units) a naturally occurring inter-specific hybrid originating in the Assam region of northeastern India. So, yes the variety is important. (Btw, for comparison: Thai chili Scoville rating: 50,000–100,000 units)

But Superman's question was: Is a pepper less hotter when grown in a cool climate (in a greenhouse) then when the same pepper is grown under tropical sun? I cannot answer this (yet). I have found references to the hours of sunlight and 'dryness' of the soil being of influence, but both can be copied perfectly in a greenhouse. Whenever I find an answer, I will post it here. These scientific studies are hard to digest.

From Wikipedia: The effect of climate on the Scoville rating of Bhut Jolokia peppers is dramatic. A 2005 Indian study that compared the percentage availability of capsaicin and dihydrocapsaicin in Bhut Jolokia peppers grown in both Tezpur, Assam and Gwalior, Madhya Pradesh showed that the heat of the pepper is decreased by over 50% in Gwalior's more arid climate (similar temperatures but less humid, much lower rainfall)

**tsicar** · 10-12-2009, 12:29 AM

never mind in what climate you grow them:

you are in for a real treat with those habaneros

remember to keep the bogroll in the refrigerator, though!

they seem to have a bit of a delayed action:
you have a bite, taste really good and not too hot. then you pop the whole thing in your mouth and munch on it to show your friends what a hero you are, and after 30 seconds all hell breaks loose! (been there and done that and got the freakin tee-shirt, but still one of my favourites)

enjoy!

**dirtydog** · 10-12-2009, 03:58 AM

I think you need to look into the effect of how much uv light the plant gets rather than temperatures.

**Eliminator** · 10-12-2009, 07:39 AM

Gipsy, got any seeds left, I would like to see what my friends think of them. 5555 They always say the food is mai pet but it burns my mouth.

**Gipsy** · 10-12-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Eliminator

got any seeds left

Yep. Just PM me your address.... Drying the last (little) batch of seeds now, for the next few days. So I will put them in the post early next week.

**Nawty** · 10-12-2009, 09:30 AM

Mine not come yet....

**Gipsy** · 10-12-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Nawty

Mine not come yet....

Yours in a box, and today is another day off for the Thai, so maybe tomorrow. Worth the wait for....

**Gipsy** · 10-12-2009, 03:27 PM

Update again: As soon as the last batch is dried, the last seeds will go to Renoo, jaiyenyen and Eliminator (if ^^^), and will be in the post somewhere early next week.

I'm slowly running out of 'Aji Umba' seeds, unless you're willing to accept a batch that was not properly dried (left outside for 2 nights > seeds have become light brown and may not have a good germination rate anymore, therefor you'll get more).

Hope you all get some of these peppers growing! If not, you'll have to wait another year. I, in the meantime, will hunt for some of these 'Bhut Jolokia' seeds...

**jaiyenyen** · 10-12-2009, 04:12 PM

Thanks Gypsy, you're a star.

**Eliminator** · 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM

Very nice of you to do this Gipsy and thank you. It should be a lot of fun to see these guys try these bad boys. 55555 As I said in the pm, if you're down this way, let me know, I've got the first couple of beers.

**tsicar** · 11-12-2009, 12:45 AM

i was busy slicing up a chocolate-brown (fukkn hot) habanero and sprinkling it on my bacon and egg breakfast one morning when my nosey thai neighbour walked in uninvited as usual.
was busy getting my kids fed and ready for school and he wanted his motorbike fixed: ignored me telling him to park the thing and i would look at it later and fukkoff now i am busy, and then asked me what kind of chilli i was eating.
told him it was habanero and asked him if he would like to try some..........
he declined, and i popped an whole one in my mouth, made as if to chew it, then swallowed it whole (no burn)
asked him again if he would like to try one and he did!
he chomped it, managed to get out the words "aroi maak" before the delayed action kicked in and had the bugger hopping up and down panting and breathing fire!

the kids and i nearly pissed ourselves laughing, and i gained huge reputation in the village, with the added benefit of never again having to share my breakfast with an uninvited thai "guest"! (why do they do that, btw?)

**Nawty** · 11-12-2009, 10:01 AM

cos they hungry probably

**Eliminator** · 11-12-2009, 07:46 PM

I want these Habbies to turn onto to my Thai friends that give me shit about not eating PET MACK. They grind these Thai chillies like their nothing, gotta see the reaction I get from these bad boys. 55555

**tsicar** · 12-12-2009, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Eliminator

I want these Habbies to turn onto to my Thai friends that give me shit about not eating PET MACK. They grind these Thai chillies like their nothing, gotta see the reaction I get from these bad boys. 55555

thai chillies can be hot, but i often have to add dried chilli powder as well, to spice them up a bit!

the habenero on the other hand, demands a bit of respect!

they have an unique, strong flavour, unlike most chillies. really delicious when added chopped raw into your food (they add a lot of flavour, heat too but strangely they don't seem to have that much "bite" if you eat them mixed in with other stuff), but eating them on their own can blow the top of your head off!

to be enjoyed but respected!

**sabang** · 12-12-2009, 08:36 AM

We got the Hab's thanks Gypsy, and mrs had them planted the next day.
There are only two types of chilli eater, the hab and the hab nots.

**Nawty** · 12-12-2009, 11:09 AM

Still nuttin...sigh...

**Gipsy** · 12-12-2009, 02:47 PM

^ Sorry to hear that.... Put them in the post last week Thursday, so maybe an idiot 'along the way' is experiencing some serious diarrhea by now, or it's because they're in a box (others had envelopes, but hey, no 'live products' for them) it might take a little bit longer, or a different route. Let's wait for early next week, and if still nothing arrives, you can have the seeds I was going to grow (but then I will want some back next year!

) Let me know..

**tsicar** · 12-12-2009, 04:08 PM

by the way (and i am no expert), i heard that chillies can vary in "temperature" according to where they are grown because they can easily be hybridised with local varieties through cross-pollination.
maybe rip out all the wife's "plik-kee-noo" before they have time to infect your habaneros.

**Gipsy** · 12-12-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by tsicar

maybe rip out all the wife's "plik-kee-noo" before they have time to infect your habaneros.

Watch out, your wife might rip out/off your "pik-kee-noo" when you do that!

**Nawty** · 13-12-2009, 03:49 PM

Hi, ok lets see. Should have got you to send registered mail and we could have tracked it, no problem me paying for it.

If it does not arrive, dont worry about your lot as it might go missing also, then big trouble in tourist thailand all over again

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