Thread: Tree cuttings

Here we go, just 2 days in this forum and learned the first lesson.

No seeds making trees and if yes, they might need long to get fruits.

-How should a cutting look like? I mean what part of a twig or even a branch with an inch of diameter?

-Beside Advocados and Mangos seen here in the Forum, which tree else is recommended not to plant seeds and make a cutting instead.

- then, which tree should be stuck into the wet ground and wich first in a bucket of water to grow roots?

any more tipps to get faster the whished result and harvesting the first fruits in the own garden?

Cheers for any reply

Willie

Most any fruit bearing trees in Thailand as far as I know, will get the best results if they are grafted trees. Any seed started trees can take a long time, up to and over 8- 10 years to produce any kind of fruit.

If you're wanting to grow frangipani from cuttings. Let the cuttings sit for five weeks before planting (for the wood to harden). Don't water them, they absorb moisture from the air.

Cheers palexxx
Never thought that,
the softest trees, and now this info... I guess i would have screwed up lots of twigs before any tree would have grown up.. :-D

There is a product called Root tone to get cuttings to start roots. I used to have a bottle of it, I'll have a look and get back to you.

Papaya from seed. Grows fast.
Purchase small Mango trees from local nursery. Will start to produce in 1 or 2 years depending on type/size perchased.
For both plant with bagged planting soil and use veggie peelings and grass as a mulch.

papaya seed I have mede my experience as I have thrown them into our garden, I had the feeling almost every seed became a sapling.

Mangos I had a big one from Honduras, it must have been a Kilo but the seed seems not to come up ;-(
But good to know they are getting fruit that fast, so its worth the money.. I need to use soil as the ground on my turf is white sand the mulch seems a good idea and will be done.

Definitely Advocados are on the plan and I want to get as much variety as possible. the Land is big enough for a nice collection of fruit trees.

Great thread
Could anyone tell me is it possible to plant any of the above and then move them in s year or two without damaging them for replanting to different spot?

Originally Posted by See Will

Definitely Advocados

They can be a problem. Do best at higher cooler climates. Around 5 years to bear fruit.

One of my Freelance mates seddled down in Honduras low regions near the sea, and I asked him to send me a few cuttlings and seeds of Advocados.
Might be worth a try.

From South Spain and Morrocco my dad brought me Olive Seeds (I have no hope but willing to try) and Agan Seeds (Even worse as they grown only in specific parts of Morrocco, but who not tries who not wins) ...

Originally Posted by See Will

I asked him to send me a few cuttlings and seeds of Advocados.

Trees produced from Avacados seeds don't produce fruit. Also the trees require plenty of water, so you'd need a well or water course nearby.

The Water level in the Pond on this land is always same, almost even with the garden area, so the ground is really wet.
That takes already on doubt out of my mind and motivates me even more to get advocado trees,, The Seeds I have I'll kick in the bin.
Cheers for these Infos.

Avocados as far as I know have to be well drained after any kind of watering, they do not like soggy ground.

Soil Types

Avocado trees thrive in well-aerated and loose soil. In particular, limestone, sandy loam and decomposed granite are the main soil types that encourage lush fruit growth. Although avocado trees tolerate both acidic and alkaline soils, the best pH range for a successful tree ranges between 6 and 6.5; this slightly acidic range can be achieved by amending the soil periodically with lime or sulfur, depending on the pH reading from an accurate meter. Compacted soils will hinder root spread, which can stunt the tree's growth and contribute to root rot.

Good Drainage

Tree roots suffocated with constant moisture will exhibit their poor health with low fruit yields and possible branch die-back; avocado trees must have good soil drainage for healthy growth. Although you may be concerned about keeping your tree watered, slightly dry conditions are best for the avocado. If a handful of soil has a granular texture after several dry days, however, you can water it at that time. Wet soil harboring on a muddy texture will surely harm the tree.


Salts

Occurring naturally in soils, salts can be a problem for avocado trees if they are in high concentrations. You will notice a salt issue if you observe the tree's leaves; the tips may appear sunburned or brown. If you are watering the tree consistently, the salt concentration should equalize in the soil for a healthy tree. But planting the tree near the ocean, where salt concentrations become heightened from the sea air, makes salt control more difficult. Careful leaf observations must be diligently performed to ensure that your avocado tree has the best soil environment.



https://www.google.co.th/?gws_rd=ssl...+avocados+need

"The Pak Chong Research Station and the Royal Project Foundation are the two main production sources of grafted and budded avocado plants. These two institutions produce more than 4,000 plants per year for the growers."

Avocado Production in Thailand - Chalongchai Babpraserth and Suranant Subhadrabandhu*

Take a trip up Khao Yai way and visit the research center. They are usually eager to help.

Originally Posted by Eliminator

Avocado trees thrive in well-aerated and loose soil. In particular, limestone, sandy loam and decomposed granite are the main soil types that encourage lush fruit growth

Typical mountian soil. I've seen avacado grow well in mountians near CM, Petchabun and Khao Yai. Failed miserably here in Roiet. Soil too saline.

Geow Mangon (Dragon fruit) and Thap Thim (Pomegranate) do well here.

... whereas olive trees need to be planted on a slope or into very good draining soil. And patience, a lot of patience is needed as is takes long ( 15 to 25 years) before it bears fruits.

Olive trees culture:
Growing Olives for Olive Oil or to Eat - Hobby Farms
Olive Tree Growers - The Care and Feeding of Olive Trees


I suggest you go to your local Agricultural Department or Agricultural University where you can see what can grow locally and they'll give you enough saplings for free or at low cost to take home and try yourself.

PPFFFFT, that's why the Greeks have in average the oldest Polulation in the world. They have to wait a lifetime for their olivetrees to bear fruits.

Well one olive tree for the collection I might put and expect nothing.. LOL

Never have heard about the works of the Agricultural departement especially doing plants for a small fee or even free.
I have seen the buildings but thought they are just some offices where you can pay you tax for some Quotation extendings (or bribes) or requesting a permit to grow stuff or if you want to do some agricultural business... an office even.