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    Our Trees and Plants...

    Now that the house is built, and I've arrived for a one week break, I've started to look around the land, a couple of rai, at the trees and plants. &, it seems that we have a lot of stuff - some nice stuff, I'd say.

    I wanted to share some pictures with you; maybe you'll be interested, maybe you can add some info - I know very little; the missus and her dad have explained stuff to me, but I've forgotten most of what they said...

    So, here are some pics, I'll add a few words of comment below them:



    A lot of the land is bamboo, like above. It's very noisy and creaky and leads us to daily sweeping (when I say us, I don't mean me...). There are mounds, which I presume are termite mounds, all around.





    There are maybe a dozen or so banana trees/plants jotted around.



    I can't remember the name of this fruit, but apparently there are quite a few varieties. On our land we have three types: one is quite bitter; one has quite a bitter skin but sweet flesh; one is sweet. The last are apparently quite well sought after and sell for between 80-120 baht per kilogram. I tasted one of these yesterday, and it was very nice, although the stone is a fair proportion of the fruit, so you don't get much flesh for your buck... The Thais like to play fun games such as putting a bowl of sweet ones on the table, but they've stuck in a bitter one, and howl with joy when somebody picks that up and bites into it... Hmmm, Thai fun and games in the countryside...



    Here is a closer look.

    Please feel free too add info and correct me, as we go along.

    BTW, the land is in Nakhon Nayok, about 150kms north of Bkk.
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    Are these the pomelo or jackfruit? Can't remember, I think it's a pomelo tree - we have 3 or 4 of both. I am currently eating some of the pomelo, really nice it is too - as good as any I've had. The FiL protects these carefully, he had to warn the builders to keep away from them... He also has a bow which fires white marble type things at the animals that the missus described as 'squirrel like'.



    Yeah, pomelo. I usually took a picture of the tree then a second one with a closeup of the fruit.

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    Jackfruit. I've never much liked them, but the MiL does.





    I think this is the starfruit tree/bush - only a couple of these.





    Another pomelo plant?





    Here is a pomelo tree (I'm not sure whether we call some of these: trees, bushes, plants or something else?) next to a tree that had the three varieties of things that I can't remember the name; hope that helps...



    The missus says they are 'mapang'. Taste very nice...

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    More starfruit, these look ripe and ready for eating.







    This one is 'lookyaw' - the leaves are used for making curry.

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    Where are the coconuts Betty.

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    If you've been paying attention, you'll be able to name these by now...






    I can't see well on these shots; is this the pepper tree? We have a few of those.




    I can't remember the name of this one either, sorry - but I'm sure many of you have eaten the fruit - very nice it is too, somewhere between a pear and celery!

    Here is the fruit:


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    This still needs a fair bit of growing time, but it's supposed to be like tamarin once it matures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    Where are the coconuts Betty.

    Sorry, KT, I can't offer you any coconuts. Would a freshly picked starfruit do?

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    We have another 6 rai at the back, and I thought that seems as we grow such nice fruit, it may be nice to turn that 6 rai into a mixed orchard. However, as you have no doubt guessed, that land is lower and floods every year because it has been used for rice farming...

    Thus, any of you smart fellas know of trees that can grow in that kind of land? I suspect that whacking in topsoil to cover 6 rai, only to be washed away every year would be rather cost prohibitive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post




    I can't remember the name of this fruit, but apparently there are quite a few varieties. On our land we have three types: one is quite bitter; one has quite a bitter skin but sweet flesh; one is sweet. The last are apparently quite well sought after and sell for between 80-120 baht per kilogram. I tasted one of these yesterday, and it was very nice, although the stone is a fair proportion of the fruit, so you don't get much flesh for your buck... The Thais like to play fun games such as putting a bowl of sweet ones on the table, but they've stuck in a bitter one, and howl with joy when somebody picks that up and bites into it... Hmmm, Thai fun and games in the countryside...


    The sour ones are called mopang (mopung) but if it's a sweet one then it's mayong shit (farang name is marian plum) They are related to the mango. The sweet one tastes similiar to a mango and as you said, the stone takes up a fair percentage of the fruit.

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    nice garden Betty

    you could always try irrigation channels,or make a fish pond of some good size and let the flood water flow into it.

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    Whatever you do - keep the bamboo in order, Bets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    The sour ones are called mopang (mopung) but if it's a sweet one then it's mayong shit (farang name is marian plum) They are related to the mango. The sweet one tastes similiar to a mango and as you said, the stone takes up a fair percentage of the fruit.
    Yes, I believe you are right, Sir. Do you have any of these, Palexxxx? Do they grow everywhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    ou could always try irrigation channels,or make a fish pond of some good size and let the flood water flow into it.
    Yeah, maybe, but I'm a lazy git, rarely here, and don't wanna start a project, as such. Just thought it might be nice to have more trees instead of rice fields. Also, the old fella has got to an age where an easier life would be nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Whatever you do - keep the bamboo in order, Bets!
    It's wild here, RS - chaos, there's no controlling the bamboo! (Anyways, the snakes like it in the bamboo) The FiL mentioned that we could take down the bamboo and plant trees in their place, but I like the bamboo - it's our wall.

    That's another thing, I was about to go out for a ramble today, but the FiL told me to put wellies on, snakes everywhere, dangerous ones...

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    not much of a project the soil you take out for the pond can be spread on the flood plain, you get fish and raised land at the same time.

    Antway good luck in whatever you do.

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    ^yeah, maybe. Could be a good idea. Need a bit more money, then get the FiL to agree what to do; it's his land and lifestyle really, so he needs to decide what he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Whatever you do - keep the bamboo in order, Bets!
    It's wild here, RS - chaos, there's no controlling the bamboo! (Anyways, the snakes like it in the bamboo) The FiL mentioned that we could take down the bamboo and plant trees in their place, but I like the bamboo - it's our wall.

    That's another thing, I was about to go out for a ramble today, but the FiL told me to put wellies on, snakes everywhere, dangerous ones...
    Looks as if you've enough to expand [and experiment] on a proper rustic garden.....maybe throw in a pond or two [if not already].

    The idea [mine, anyway] is to nurture as many "different" varieties of most everything one can secure. Why be the same as everyone else....?

    Looks nice!
    Good on ya, BB!

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    Can't spread the love Betty,thank you for the starfruit.
    How did you build a house with no coconut trees near by,Grandmothers house was built out of coconut and bamboo,coconut floor and roof bamboo to hold everything together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    The sour ones are called mopang (mopung) but if it's a sweet one then it's mayong shit (farang name is marian plum) They are related to the mango. The sweet one tastes similiar to a mango and as you said, the stone takes up a fair percentage of the fruit.
    Yes, I believe you are right, Sir. Do you have any of these, Palexxxx? Do they grow everywhere?
    Sort of, my Mrs has farming properties in a few different provinces. On the Tak property she has over 50 of the mayong shit trees.

    We only in the last few days have taken a trip from my place in Chiang Mai and down to Cha Am where we are at the moment. I saw them being sold at the roadside stalls in Tak, Kampaeng Phet, Nakhon Sawan, Uthai Thani, Ayuthaya and here in Cha Am too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    The idea [mine, anyway] is to nurture as many "different" varieties of most everything one can secure. Why be the same as everyone else....?
    A little nature reserve, nice...

    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey
    How did you build a house with no coconut trees near by,Grandmothers house was built out of coconut and bamboo,coconut floor and roof bamboo to hold everything together.
    The marvels of modern times bricks and mortar.
    I have another thread, you know - over 40 pages of the stuff for you to read up on.

    I did see some coconuts on the floor around here somewhere. I'm gonna have to check if there are indeed trees of that variety or if it's the local refuge propensity.

    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    On the Tak property she has over 50 of the mayong shit trees.
    That's plenty! You should be a bloody expert on this stuff then.

    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    We only in the last few days have taken a trip from my place in Chiang Mai and down to Cha Am where we are at the moment. I saw them being sold at the roadside stalls in Tak, Kampaeng Phet, Nakhon Sawan, Uthai Thani, Ayuthaya and here in Cha Am too.
    That's a fair distance. Any idea of the prices, just out of interest. The missus says that one fo our trees can get 100 baht plus per kilo, but I'm thinking more of the 40 baht plus range... Having said that, I know less than nothing about this stuff!

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    You need to do a bit more homework Bettyboo... a guided tour around the garden should sound different from "Err...wait, have to ask the missus".

    Maprang or Ma-bprang = Bouea burmanica = Marian plum

    Your 'lookaw = pomelo' is actually Mata suea (มะตาเสือ) = Morinda citrifolia = noni

    "I can't remember the name of this one either" is called Chom poo = Syzygium jambos = Rose apple

    'The pepper tree' is Phrik Thai on = Piper nigrum = Black pepper (corns) and it's a vine.

    Glad you enjoy the bamboo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    On the Tak property she has over 50 of the mayong shit trees.
    That's plenty! You should be a bloody expert on this stuff then.

    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    We only in the last few days have taken a trip from my place in Chiang Mai and down to Cha Am where we are at the moment. I saw them being sold at the roadside stalls in Tak, Kampaeng Phet, Nakhon Sawan, Uthai Thani, Ayuthaya and here in Cha Am too.
    That's a fair distance. Any idea of the prices, just out of interest. The missus says that one fo our trees can get 100 baht plus per kilo, but I'm thinking more of the 40 baht plus range... Having said that, I know less than nothing about this stuff!
    I saw some for sale in Sukhothai last week and they were 150 baht per kilo, the same price that I saw today on the way down to Cha Am. That is the price for the mayong shit (the sweet ones). The sour ones (mopang) go for 35 to 45 baht per kilo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
    You need to do a bit more homework Bettyboo... a guided tour around the garden should sound different from "Err...wait, have to ask the missus".

    Maprang or Ma-bprang = Bouea burmanica = Marian plum

    Your 'lookaw = pomelo' is actually Mata suea (มะตาเสือ) = Morinda citrifolia = noni

    "I can't remember the name of this one either" is called Chom poo = Syzygium jambos = Rose apple

    'The pepper tree' is Phrik Thai on = Piper nigrum = Black pepper (corns) and it's a vine.

    Glad you enjoy the bamboo!
    Excellent post.

    It wasn't really guided tour, it was more of a kinda: wow, look at all this countryside stuff, it's interesting, isn't it!

    Here's a question for you: why is our pomelo so sweet and tasty? It's good...

    (&, I knew the rose apple was called that, I just forgot for a while... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    I saw some for sale in Sukhothai last week and they were 150 baht per kilo, the same price that I saw today on the way down to Cha Am. That is the price for the mayong shit (the sweet ones).
    Right, time to raise the rice field and get that 6 rai making 150 baht per kilo for us!!! I wonder how many trees we can get on 6 rai? The missus says it's hard to grow and wouldn't on shitty soil, so maybe a problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Are these the pomelo
    Yes excellent fruit, are these yellow or pink? Pink is my favorite.. There are some being grown here in Florida now, I'm going to track some down this season. You have quite a nice assortment of local fruits, lucky you.

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