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    Buadhai's New Garden

    I guess this is sort of a branch from this thread: The Construction of Ms. AC's House. I imagine this thread will go on for some time.

    The house itself is pretty much finished, but we won't be moving in for a while as there still is no water or power.

    However, I'm anxious to get the garden going, so I've already begun.

    My last house (on Saipan) was on a 13,000 square meter block of land. The new house is on a block that is just over 300 square meters, so I've had to scale down my thinking quite a bit. (The Saipan house had three ponds, over 100 coconut trees, about 100 betel nut palms, half a dozen mango trees, etc.)

    Most of the new garden will be in these two spaces; each of which has about ten square meters:


    This is the "back" yard and will be for a few fruit trees and maybe some herbs and spices.


    This is the "front" yard. The pond will go here. The plants that go here will serve several purposes:

    • To provide some privacy by screening out the street and neighbors.
    • To provide nice vistas with a little color.
    • To provide some fragrance.


    Our plan is to use lots of palms for screening, some plumeria for color and fragrance, plenty of orchids (we have about 100 now) and whatever else strikes our fancy.

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    Plumeria

    Until recently Plumeria (Frangipani) was not commonly found in household gardens. The former common name, lantom (ลั่นทม) was too close to a Thai word for sadness or sorrow, ratom (ระทม). Less than a decade ago a group of dealers renamed the plant lilawadee (ลีลาวดี). I don't think this name has any meaning, but the change has caused the popularity of Plumeria in Thailand to soar.

    Two years ago we were looking for a plumeria for our garden. After visiting dozens of nurseries we found but a single small plant that cost us 450 baht. It has never flowered. Now the nurseries are full of all sorts of varieties with colors galore. It's even possible to buy huge mature trees that were probably harvested from wats, the only place you used to see this plant. According to one article I read a three meter Plumeria tree costs about 10,000 baht in Bangkok. Thankfully, they are much cheaper here in Korat.

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    You can actually buy Plumeria online:

    PlumeriaThailand

    Plumeria In Thailand : Plumeria Flowers

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    A couple of weeks ago we decided to start the landscaping, even though we knew the house wouldn't be ready for occupancy for quite some time. Not far from us, near the village of Khok Kruat, is a big nursery center with dozens and dozens of retail outlets which sell every plant imaginable along with gardening supplies, paving stones, etc. The first batch of plants we bought included a Plumeria obtusa (the one with the shiny green leaves and abundant fragrant flowers) and a bunch of palm trees.


    I also bought a shovel. Hard to find a decent one.


    Palms to block the view of the street through the fence.


    The Plumeria viewed from the front porch.


    We plan to put one of those bas-relief sculptures that Thais call "jigsaw" on this wall.


    More palms along the front wall.


    Orchids do pretty well when hanging on a Plumeria. Here I've tied some new orchid shoots along with some coconut husk using plastic raffia.

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    I see the lawn has started to sprout. Can you give us details about that?
    (And, no, I'm not taking the piss)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I see the lawn has started to sprout. Can you give us details about that?
    Weeds. I just bought some Roundup this morning to kill it all. The developer is supposed to put turf over all the ground. That will happen "real soon now", I suppose.

    In the photo with the "lawn" you can see a pile of granite stones. I found those outside of a gravel yard about a half kilometer from the house. I'm assuming they discarded these stones as an inappropriate ingredient in the gravel they sell. They will be perfect for around the pond.

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    I found this motorcy outside an empty house.
    I have assumed they have discarded it as an inappropriate form of transport.
    It will be perfect for nipping down the village.

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    I've always thought the nicest Plumeria is Plumeria Singapura. It's the one with the large white flowers that are yellowish in the middle. It has the strongest scent of all the varieties of Plumeria I have come across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    I've always thought the nicest Plumeria is Plumeria Singapura.
    It's the common name of obtusa. My favorite as well.

    From Wiki:

    Another species that retains leaves and flowers in winter is P. obtusa; though its common name is "Singapore", it is originally from Colombia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    you can see a pile of granite stones. I found those outside of a gravel yard about a half kilometer from the house. I'm assuming they discarded these stones as an inappropriate ingredient in the gravel they sell.
    Just thought I should mention that if your down my way those stones I have in the front garden are not discarded, they are placed in artistic posititions, so don't bloody nick them

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    it's going to look to great if you are going to add a few banana fan trees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    it's going to look to great if you are going to add a few banana fan trees
    I'm afraid they'd get too big...

    I like them very much though. When I was out buying the Roundup this morning I picked up some golden bamboo and spotted a Traveler's Palm that would look great.



    Is that the one you had in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    this morning I picked up some golden bamboo
    Good choice, that looks great, wonderful colour and gives nice shade

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    I've always thought the nicest Plumeria is Plumeria Singapura.
    It's the common name of obtusa. My favorite as well.

    From Wiki:

    Another species that retains leaves and flowers in winter is P. obtusa; though its common name is "Singapore", it is originally from Colombia.
    Thanks M, I didn't know that.

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    Roundup

    Roundup (Glyphosate) is sort of a controversial herbicide. Some claim that it's a scourge on the earth while others claim that it is one of the least toxic to animals herbicides in general use.

    I find it to be enormously effective and without it would have been unable to fight back the jungle surrounding my hectare plot of land on Saipan.

    I bought some yesterday to kill the weeds that have germinated at the new house. I was surprised to see that a liter bottle of the stuff only costs 250 baht. That same amount cost $32 on Saipan.

    I bought a separate sprayer for the Roundup as I don't want to inadvertently kill plants that I've put in. I labeled the spray bottle so that yours truly (AKA "Mr Clumsy") will not err in application:


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    I found this photo in DD's gallery. I've been looking all over Korat for a place like this that sells the sort of stones that are in the foreground. No luck so far. Any ideas? Where was the photo taken DD?


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    I agree with you about the Roundup. Is that the undiluted brand variety? I used to get it a few years ago (undiluted and it cost around 100 pound per 5 litres. Unfortunately you cant buy the undiluted Roundup in the UK unlass you have a spraying licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagator
    Is that the undiluted brand variety?
    It's Roundup brand and it's 48% Glyphosate. The "Super Concentrate" they market in the US is 52%.

    The package is all in Thai and the only address I see is in Bangkok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    I've been looking all over Korat for a place like this that sells the sort of stones that are in the foreground.
    We got loads of then here.
    I fetched them myself from a nearby stream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    We got loads of then here.
    I fetched them myself from a nearby stream.
    I'm afraid all I'd be able to fetch from the Mun River around here is mud....

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    That picture was taken in Salaburi, loads of stone places there

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    That picture was taken in Salaburi, loads of stone places there
    Of course, we pass them all the time. I was hoping for something a little closer to Korat and a little less risky than nicking from the local gravel yard....

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    They deliver, I normally just phone them with what I want, 10 wheeler to Jomtien is like 2,000baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Just thought I should mention that if your down my way those stones I have in the front garden are not discarded, they are placed in artistic posititions, so don't bloody nick them

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    More Plants from the Khok Kruat Nursery Center

    Ms. B's day off yesterday so we decided to buy some more plants. We usually shop for plants at a big nursery center which is at the village of Khok Kruat, about 20K west of Korat on the main highway (Thai 2) to Bangkok.

    This place has probably a hundred vendors selling everything from orchids to fruit trees to ornamentals and lots of pots and gardening supplies.



    About half way down this row of shops is a coffee place that makes wonderful ice coffee. A great place to relax after a hard morning of plant shopping.


    In the middle of the place they have this huge pond with a rather formal Thai garden. I'm not much in to formal gardens, but I do like the palms at this end of the pond.



    I'm not sure why they don't fill up the pond to cover the liner....



    This is the older section of the nursery center on the opposite side of the road from the pond. I think there are a total of six or seven sois with shops on both sides.



    Lots of pots and gardening supplies at this place.



    This is the soi for big trees.


    We bought all this for about 1000 baht and managed to carry it all in our little Toyota Vios.

    I think we got one palm, five Heliconia, two bird's nest ferns, a Jumpee (ylanylang) tree, and about a dozen smaller ferns and ornamentals and two bags of mulch.

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