The Teak Door First Ever Annual Chili Cook Off

[friscofrankie]

wine?
Mushrooms?
Fucking BACON???

Then this fucking quote?

And why are you guys all adding the beans so early? 15 mins before the end of cooking for canned beans so they don't get mushy.

Ya'll sure got some weird Ideas abut Chili.
This kinb of Chili beans got it's start on the trail, Cookee wuod star with a pot of water and a bag of beans. Now I made some pretty broad stroke type changes to make this dish a quick and easy one. Canned kidney beans, thai chilies.

On the trail this dish was all canned or dry. There were pinto beans, maybe soaked all day while the waqgon moved on to the next camp the cooked over a fire Until they were soft. Pinto beans will soften up better' kidney beans.
Other ingredients were added; Maybe some onion, spices Maybe some beef, maybe they were browned in a skillet maybe not. If the cook had some dried tomato, maybe some of them; if not? Not.
Cowboy beans, became chili beans, These fucker that say chili ain't got beans in it are talking abut a whole different dish, they act all snooty and give you this lecture on how real chili ain't got no beans. They'll go on to make a similar dish without beans.

Chili Colorado (or red chili) is a dish without beans, tougher cuts of meat, etc. best served with rice, BEANS, and couple tortillas.

This here meal is a one bowl, no frills, eat me and I'll stick to yer ribs kinda meal
Fuckin mushrooms, wine, and gourmet ingredients. <Might taste OM but sure will be lackin' any soul.

(now if I can just find me some Tomatillos I'll whip y'all up a pile of Chili verde Like you ain;t never seen )

[English Noodles]

^Well i enjoyed it anyway so thanks.

[friscofrankie]

Glad you did.

[dirtydog]

Well i enjoyed it anyway so thanks.

And your photos?

[English Noodles]

^The SD card reader on my notebook is on the blink.

[November Rain]

wine? Mushrooms? Fucking BACON??? Then this fucking quote?
Quote: Originally Posted by November Rain And why are you guys all adding the beans so early? 15 mins before the end of cooking for canned beans so they don't get mushy.
Ya'll sure got some weird Ideas abut Chili.

That's the point, though, FF. It's virtually impossible to make authentic chilli (and as you said, even in Texas there are arguments as to what that actually is) from ingredients readily found in Thailand. For a start Thai chillies don't taste the same. I'd use Scotch Bonnets when I have them, over Thai chillies, but they're not authentic either. I've never seen Mexican chillies for sale here. So, when here, I think it's taste you'd go for, more than authenticity.

[blackgang]

That's the point, though, FF. It's virtually impossible to make authentic chilli (and as you said, even in Texas there are arguments as to what that actually is) from ingredients readily found in Thailand.

What a bunch of shit that is, I have got 2 -1 qt commercial jars of authentic mexican chili powder, 1 Chili en polvo claro and 1 regular chili, and I add ground pork 1/3 to 2/3 coarse ground beef, bell peppers, Onions, Garlic, and sometimes Jalapinoes when I can get em fresh and when not then I use canned or pickled ones and add some ground chili, FF came by a couple of times before I froze the remainder of my chili con carne con frijoles and he had a large bowl of it and will pobly have some more when it is thawed.
Now thats the way I made it here and the way I made it anywhere I have ever lived, even in Mexico, which the chili we are talking about is not Mexican, but TexMex.

[Topper]

Made a big pot of chili a couple of nights ago. Used Durkee chili powder and S&W Chili (Pinto) Beans. Turned the leftover chili into burritos, just added some fresh onion, bell pepper and cheese to the chili for the burritos. Ummmm......

Used basically the same recipe as FF, took the meat and onions out of the skillet after browning and put the meat less the grease in a big pot. Added everything else to the pot and let it cook down for about an 1-1/2 hours until the chili got really frigging thick.

Also found refried beans (all of this is from the foodland on Ramkhamhaeng). Going to make a bean and cheese sauce for a dip for chips.

[November Rain]

What a bunch of shit that is, I have got 2 -1 qt commercial jars of authentic mexican chili powder, 1 Chili en polvo claro and 1 regular chili, and I add ground pork 1/3 to 2/3 coarse ground beef, bell peppers, Onions, Garlic, and sometimes Jalapinoes when I can get em fresh and when not then I use canned or pickled ones and add some ground chili,

OK, I'd love you to tell me where in HH I can buy the jalapenos or the authentic chilli powder or the chili en polvo claro or where people who live out in the sticks can get them. We're not all within easy reach of a Foodland or Villa, you know.

I didn't say it was Mexican, BTW, I said it was Texan.

[friscofrankie]

That be "Texican"

Don't worry NR next time I pick up a big box of Jalapenos or Habaneros I'll PM you for contact details Send them down on the bus; they'll keep for the 20 hours or so it'll takes to get 'em there in the heat, I think. Up here we get 'em two three time a year.

My tirade was just humor Food is for experimenting with, eat your fuck ups to be sure but Those trail beans sure never had no wine or mushrooms in 'em. To me it just don't sound right. Hell MtD wanted to put Potatoes in it!

The dish in the OP takes about a half hour or so to prepare.

Used basically the same recipe as FF, took the meat and onions out of the skillet after browning and put the meat less the grease in a big pot. Added everything else to the pot and let it cook down for about an 1-1/2 hours until the chili got really frigging thick.

For a more authentic pot of beans I'll cook up the beans add the tomato paste and tomatoes then cook up the meat, spices & onions and dump that (grease and all the fat has so much flavor and the the local beef has very little of it) in with the beans & cook them till the flavors meld. That's an all day pot of beans though.

Not a real fan of the "texas cook-off rule book chili" personally. But Red Chili prepared mexican style is one of my favorites.

[November Rain]

Don't worry NR next time I pick up a big box of Jalapenos or Habaneros I'll PM you for contact details Send them down on the bus;

Oh, thank you. I'll be hugely grateful.

Actually your chilli does look extremely good!

[Jet Gorgon]

I just use Hungarian paprika and chili powder. It tastes OK, but not the same as cooking it out back of the chuckwagon and then you gotta pick up the stove and all the hot pots and get moving when a war party whoops down on ya. Blazing saddles for shore. Ah, dreaming again.

[Marmite the Dog]

Mushrooms? Fucking BACON???

Excellent additions to improve on the rather 'lacking' original. Mmmm...

[Marmite the Dog]

Hell MtD wanted to put Potatoes in it!

Another improvement.

The Thais are just as anal about some of their dishes. I cooked a Penang Gai and bunged some pumpkin in it. The guests said that Penang shouldn't have pumpkin and that they know what's best blah-dee-blah. Anyway, after eating it they all told me how good it was with pumpkin and have started cooking it the same way at home. They admit that they can't do it as well as me though.

I'll do you a proper English chilli one day Frankie - show you how it should be done mate.

[blackgang]

I'd love you to tell me where in HH I can buy the jalapenos or the authentic chilli powder or the chili en polvo claro or where people who live out in the sticks can get them. We're not all within easy reach of a Foodland or Villa, you know.

Well Phetchabun is a hell of a long way from Villa or foodland, but we could buy fresh jalapenos that came down to a shop from Chiang Rai and a friend in Pattaya says that he is buying fresh jalapenos there. But I also buy em by the case from my meat supplier, they have quite a list of Mex foods stuff.
FF and some folks coming over here for a BBQ tomorrow and I gonna thaw some chili I made and I will take a pic of the goings on and post em..

And my chili powder came in by USPS freight from USA, but you can do with ground Cumin and ground thai chilis and some little oregano

[English Noodles]

The Thais are just as anal about some of their dishes. I cooked a Penang Gai and bunged some pumpkin in it.

I would have thought the name would have been a give away that it's not a Thai dish.

[Marmite the Dog]

I would have thought the name would have been a give away that it's not a Thai dish.

Try telling them that!

I explained where it came from and they said that penang & Penang are pronounced differently in Thai and it's not the same.

[friscofrankie]

^spelled differently too!

FF and some folks coming over here for a BBQ tomorrow and I gonna thaw some chili I made and I will take a pic of the goings on and post em..

And there will Slow Smoked BBQ ribs, Cole slaw Corn on the cob. With my own secret BBQ sauce revealed...
Marmite can skip it though It's got sugar in it and NO POTATOES.
(or mushrooms or whine or pumpkin)

[English Noodles]

^spelled differently too!

If you mean 'Pinang' then Pulau Pinang is the Malay name for Penang, My grandfather used to call it Prince of Wales Island.

[friscofrankie]

Was thinking of the way Thais would spell it:
พะแนง = panang (curry)
ปีนัง = Penang (Malaysia)
and Pronounce it

Maybe you guys were talking about something else? Not unusual for me to come in from left field.

they said that penang & Penang are pronounced differently in Thai and it's not the same.

Then maybe not.

[friscofrankie]

The subject of Chili and curries is not unrelated. Chili powder is similar to curry powder in that is it a combination of herbs/spices (many of which they share in common) prepared and then used as an ingredient in the preparation of quite a few different dishes.
Chili beans; just old time fusion cooking Middle eastern influence -> Spanish Influence + native American + Where'd the Beans come from?

[English Noodles]

Was thinking of the way Thais would spell it: พะแนง = panang (curry) ปีนัง = Penang (Malaysia) and Pronounce it Maybe you guys were talking about something else? Not unusual for me to come in from left field.

No, i think your right, i never new that, learn something new every day.

Cheers.

[Marmite the Dog]

Marmite can skip it though It's got sugar in it and NO POTATOES. (or mushrooms or whine or pumpkin)

Was thinking of the way Thais would spell it: พะแนง = panang (curry) ปีนัง = Penang (Malaysia) and Pronounce it

Still from the same place though. It's kinda natural for a supposedly dominant country to bastardize spellings to suit prejudices.

[friscofrankie]

It's kinda natural for a supposedly dominant country to bastardize spellings to suit prejudices.

Yeah Kinda

[El Gibbon]

^spelled differently too!

FF and some folks coming over here for a BBQ tomorrow and I gonna thaw some chili I made and I will take a pic of the goings on and post em..

And there will Slow Smoked BBQ ribs, Cole slaw Corn on the cob. With my own secret BBQ sauce revealed...
Marmite can skip it though It's got sugar in it and NO POTATOES.
(or mushrooms or whine or pumpkin)

What no WHINE, and your cooking for whinging POMS?

Don't forget to boil the fuck out of everythint!

E. G.