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    Does that mean some sort of pension, free medical, free education? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Well done to the both of you, perseverance pays off in the end.

    I will toast you both tonight.

    how was her "UK test"?
    Cheers OO mate , as with everything else along the way the UK test went wrong for us to , Jan took her first test just at the time they changed the poxy thing , so the first edition book I had bought her and she had learnt was not applicable so she failed I had to but the second version another tenner for the government to waste and then passed at 97%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha
    Does that mean some sort of pension, free medical, free education? Just curious.
    I know what your having a go at here and I wasnt gonna even bother answering but just for the record and to put your mind at rest , my wife has lived in the UK now over 3 years and where we live there is very little in the way of work especially for those who have a poor grasp of the lingo .

    However apart from keeping our home spotless and looking after me etc the first 18 months she was here she was doing voluntary work to keep herself occupied untill an opurtunity came along , since then she has worked in a care home on the minimum wage including Sundays Xmas day Boxing day New years day etc and has saved her money and has now bought 15 rai of rubber trees back home to help me a little in my early retirement.

    Please do not tar / assume all Thais are skanks who are over here to get a free ride .
    Yes she will be entitled to some form of tiny pension as and when it occurs because since she began working she has paid her full stamp so by the same way she will qualify for healthcare as and when she needs it , allthough up to now any dental work she has had done , like myself as there are no NHS dentists around here I have paid for privately .

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    Quote Originally Posted by astasinim
    Thats all good and well, if your only planning on travelling to and from Thailand. If a couple plan on travelling to other destinations, then it can be a right pain obtaining visas every time. My wife wasnt bothered for citizenship, it was I who insisted she get it, in order to make our lives easier.
    Cheers mate very similar here to . Having 3 grandchildren it will be good to be able to come back to see them together. Were also looking forward to some holidays in Europe in the coming years with a pleasant 2 hour flight instead of the long haul to the warm

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    allthough up to now any dental work she has had done , like myself as there are no NHS dentists around here I have paid for privately .
    As for dental work, exams, cleanings or anything more serious, you should do what we do (me, hubby, my mother and stepfather). Just do it all in Thailand. It's far more professional, decent and lower priced than in the west. I go for my checkups and cleanings every year when I'm in BKK and the highest it has ever cost me was 800 baht. Both my mom and stepfather have had more serious work done and they are very happy with one particular dental clinic in BKK. If you need this info, I can pass it on to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha
    What benefits is the lady entitled to once acquiring citizenship?
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    The same as any other British Citizen i guess, unless she holds dual nationality ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha
    Does that mean some sort of pension, free medical, free education? Just curious.
    she would get the same benefits as anybody with a "Right to abode" visa

    she can work, claim benefits and get free NHS stuff

    so what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    since she began working she has paid her full stamp

    For those not of UK extraction the "stamp" is the term for social security taxes, she will also be paying "income tax" on her earned income and "VAT Tax" on her spending. So she will be paying 20 to 50 % of her earnings staright back to the UK government. This allows HMG to spend it on what the "voters" agree

    As she is also married to an upstanding British citizen she will not be able to claim any benefits herself, she can try but she wont get any. Her pension entiltlement will be based on the number of years she contributes, with present trends she will be 85 years old before she is entitled to one. Probably the main benefit she will get now is the good old NHS - which remains free at the point of service (free doctors appointments and free hospital charges, outpatients drugs are subsidised).

    Not sure if she can get free education, up to the age of 18 years normally, I am assuming she is way past that age not having met her. If she wanted anything further she would be charged. Any kids schooled in the UK would get free state education irrespective of sex, race, colour or religion.

    All the above benefits, wrenched from the ruling classes by the trades unions and their political parties, are currently under attacked due to financial impropriety by the last few governments helped along their way by financial experts who got it right for themselves, but not their clients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post

    However apart from keeping our home spotless and looking after me etc the first 18 months she was here she was doing voluntary work to keep herself occupied untill an opurtunity came along , since then she has worked in a care home on the minimum wage including Sundays Xmas day Boxing day New years day etc and has saved her money and has now bought 15 rai of rubber trees back home to help me a little in my early retirement.
    There are lots of useless and crooked Thai women who come to the UK and I know quite a few. My wife has just celebrated her tenth year of working at our local hospital as a domestic. She gets to mop floors that patients have peed over. Best of all she gets to clean shit off the toilets. After she has washed her hands she gives cups of tea to the patients. The streets are paved with gold over here.

    The reality is that my wife has given more to society than the vast majority of big fat lazy bastard women who live in my town. She puts them to shame. I married a Thai because I didn't want to marry a lazy slag.

    We have a lot in common, Nigel. More than you would think

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    Best of all she gets to clean shit off the toilets. After she has washed her hands she gives cups of tea to the patients. The streets are paved with gold over here.
    Yep well thats exactly what my missus is/ does she is a housekeeper in an old folks home ,, now without going into too much detail incase people reading this have just finished their meal , 90% of the residents have severe dementure , so yes ,lets just say things can and do get very messy

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    As she is also married to an upstanding British citizen
    ( puffs chest out , big smile )

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Any kids schooled in the UK would get free state education irrespective of sex, race, colour or religion.
    ( falls off chair , uncontrolebly shakes and sweats on the floor )

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    I keep seeing this NHS stuff, but I can't really believe you are being serious about it being a benefit to a Thai? 30 baht and you're in for life. Better doctor's for the most and unfortunately, longer lines.

    What really is the benefit to a Thai national of gaining citizenship anywhere else but Thailand? Without a sponsor in the country of selection I see a rather dismal life unless they are highly educated or have wealth of their own? Memories of a Man City owner spring to mind.

    I certainly would never subject my Thai wife to the insult of becoming a citizen of the USA. There's absolutely no benefit to be found there. Well, perhaps a couple but its a long hard road from immigrant to citizen. She's happy as she is and why would I want to change that?

    I wanted a Thai wife, not an American wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt
    but I can't really believe you are being serious about it being a benefit to a Thai
    When you are seriously ill and require immediate action the NHS is probably as good as any health service, with no worries as to "can I afford this". Which I am led to believe causes bankruptcy to some in countries with a "better" private system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt
    I wanted a Thai wife, not an American wife.
    Well good on you mate , I'm lucky now I have a UK wife and a Thai wife ,, but I like her when she wears her Thai hat

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha
    Does that mean some sort of pension, free medical, free education? Just curious.
    I know what your having a go at here and I wasnt gonna even bother answering but just for the record and to put your mind at rest , my wife has lived in the UK now over 3 years and where we live there is very little in the way of work especially for those who have a poor grasp of the lingo .

    However apart from keeping our home spotless and looking after me etc the first 18 months she was here she was doing voluntary work to keep herself occupied untill an opurtunity came along , since then she has worked in a care home on the minimum wage including Sundays Xmas day Boxing day New years day etc and has saved her money and has now bought 15 rai of rubber trees back home to help me a little in my early retirement.

    Please do not tar / assume all Thais are skanks who are over here to get a free ride .
    Yes she will be entitled to some form of tiny pension as and when it occurs because since she began working she has paid her full stamp so by the same way she will qualify for healthcare as and when she needs it , allthough up to now any dental work she has had done , like myself as there are no NHS dentists around here I have paid for privately .
    Didn't assume that at all. Just curious why citizenship is so important. I can see having a British passport makes traveling the world easier. I'm not a Brit. Getting a US passport offers the same travel ease and alllows a person to stay without too many hassles. No pension though if you don't work. No real education benefits and no medical at the moment. It might be better for starting a business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    I paid around 30k dollars for the residence visa
    Blimey, thats expensive- I only remember it costing a few hundred bucks, in 2004. (Assume you mean Oz)
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    after 2 yrs continuous stay
    We upped sticks and moved to Thailand within a year. So a wasted excercise really.



    Congratulations Nigel and Jan.

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    ^ Sorry if I missunderstood your meaning ,, its just a lot of people have a go assuming people come here for a free ride so they all get put in the same box.

    Basically non EU people can come here work pay tax etc but draw no benefits , I think they can after about 5 years , but to be honest were talking piddling amounts anyway.

    My missus actually hates the sponging single mums she shes waddling around here with theyre council flats provided taking theyre children to school yacking away on theyre iphone4's then hurrying up to get back home in the warm to eat cream cakes watch the shopping channell and jeremy Kyle show

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    the sponging single mums she shes waddling around here with theyre council flats provided taking theyre children to school yacking away on theyre iphone4's then hurrying up to get back home in the warm to eat cream cakes watch the shopping channell and jeremy Kyle show
    In Canada, these people are rewarded more and more every year. They have huge trashy mouths, they scream at the fathers of the babies to stay away so that they can be guaranteed their welfare handout. They are given all the rights to their kids and fathers are treated like garbage. Ah, yes, Canada is such a good country *huge violin*

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    At least there's enough space to be able get away from them.

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    This thread turned into a bit of an opportunity for the ignorant to have a go at those of us that have natrualised thai wives. My mrs has 2 jobs both of which she pays tax on, she is earning her state pension as well as her company pension. We pay our own way and of her wide circle of Thai friends in the UK i can't think of one that is living off the state. And acheiving British Citizenship doesn't entitle you to any additional benefits from the state. So congratulations Nigle and Jan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Had a mate who did this with his Russian internet bride. As soon as she got all the paperwork, she was off.
    God your bad Harry! You'd piss on your Grannies birthday cake to put the candles out.

    Well done N ans J. I will never complain about Canadian immigration again! Well I willbut with more understanding of the plight of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astasinim
    At least there's enough space to be able get away from them.
    Watch out for the northern beaver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by astasinim
    At least there's enough space to be able get away from them.
    Watch out for the northern beaver.
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    I find them a little difficult getting into the crevices myself. A cut throat is more satisfying, trust is required though. She starts to squirm as soon as she spys the belt.

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    Thanks Oxy J , you will be well familiar with all the hoops + hurdles we have negociated let alone the small fortune it costs , unfortunately for my wife this area isnt flooded with Thais but the 10 UK/ Thai couples we do know here all work fulltime bar one of the girls who has a two year old son and good on her for being a full time Mum I say .

    Just as an aside my wifes best friend who is married to an Austrian and lives there works multiple jobs 7 days a week

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    Just a little update for anyone interested .

    Yesterday we had to go to County Hall in Chelmsford Essex for Jan's certificate presentation , you ger to sit in the Council chambers for the presentation , this includes the people recieving their paperwork swearing the oath and pledge , they have to stand individually , identify themselves to everyone and we had to listen to about 30 mins of history all about Essex quite interesting indeed.
    The Queens rep for Essex was there plus the Council leader plus some other dignatries , all in all not so bad as I thought it was gonna be .

    Now then just an observation ,,,,,,,, ( I have to say it did'nt suprise me ) the day in question was graced by no less than 15 different nationalities and everyone including myself was dressed up in our best whistles ( except one group ) yep you got it in one , our African friends who could muster no more respect for the occasion other than to wear jeans and trainers . Now before we went into the chamber tea and coffee was provided , also the same table was laid out with a lovely spread of food and cakes and fruit for AFTER the event ,, and yes you know don't you , our African ( sorry now UK ) friends piled in before just about cleaning the table . I did point out to one of them the rest of us wer'nt on a diet , but he looked at me as if I was speaking a foreign language ,, and probably to him I was

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