Thai Divorce law re: Extortion

**taffyapple** · 23-02-2011, 08:34 AM

yamaharr1 thinks give her 100k to get back on her feet shes on her back most of the time so she will want more than that.

**Bettyboo** · 23-02-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by drawp

Well, I'll make this simple, my marriage has failed due to trust issues.

How long have you been together? How much did she invest in the relationship (emotionally, financially, etc)? How much do you like her and wanna stay on good terms.

Been together a few months and she didn't put one dollar into the relationship, then tell her to fuk off... been together for 5 years, she sold some land to help you two get a place together and settle down, she moved from her Bkk office job to whereever at your request, etc, then settle things fairly for her losses...

**drawp** · 23-02-2011, 09:03 AM

Almost 2.5 years off and on. As for land and what not, no she didn't sell anything off to enter this relationship. She kept her job with her friend managing a restaurant/bar/lounge, and still maintains that job to this day.

In terms of everything, it was pretty much me investing my money and time into it. I've given up a few opportunities for higher paying jobs back in the states so I could stay in this area and be close to her as well as pay for the apartment she stayed in back in Thailand when she was basically doing visa runs. Not once did she pay for any of the flights to here in Macau, or really anything in this relationship.

With all of this is in mind, this is why I'm hesitant to give her anything as a parting "gift"

**rickschoppers** · 23-02-2011, 09:13 AM

Then like Bettyboo says, tell her to fuk off.............

**taffyapple** · 23-02-2011, 10:05 AM

reading through the lines i think she realized you had fuck all.

**Thaihome** · 24-02-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by drawp

TH, you mention 3 years, is this some clause that if none of the 12 reasons as previously mentioned are fulfilled you have to wait 3 years before filing in court (basically filing for divorce due to irreconcilable differences)?

After 3 years living apart she does not have to agree to the divorce and the court will give you one.

Doesn't appear to apply in your case but the property settlement is still another matter which would have to settled in court as well.
TH

**rickschoppers** · 25-02-2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by fwrendz

This stuff is horrifying

Facts of life in the LOS. Same old shit, different country.

**drawp** · 12-03-2011, 07:23 PM

Okay.. so it looks like she finally gave in, and we are just going to go to the amphur to get it done, however her friends are in her ears again and keep telling her all sorts of different things on how we need to do this.

My understanding is that we just go to the amphur, get the papers signed, and the process is done.

her friends had said something about having to go to the MFA, is that necessary?

**Larn** · 12-03-2011, 08:46 PM

I haven't read the whole thread so excuse me if I add stuff that doesn't apply to you.

If she's in agreement get her to the Umphur as soon as you can before she changes her mind.

If there's property, children etc involved have a financial agreement written by a lawyer that she agrees with prior to applying for the divorce.

You need both wedding certificates and she must have an up to date ID card that matches the name, details etc on their computer.

Make a few photocopies of your passport, entry stamp + her ID card and house card before attending the umphur.

If you don't have both wedding certificates make a police loss report and that covers the missing certificate. The police report is simple and shouldn't cost more than 10 or so baht to the police coffee fund.

If a financial agreement is needed take the lawyer with you to cover your bum. You will be asked if you understand the agreement before the Umphur official proceeds.

You'll need 2 witnesses so take a couple of friends altho witnesses can be obtained for a small fee at the Umphur.

If the Umphur is empty and things go smoothly you should be out of there a single man in under an hour.

There's no need to involve the MFA.

**DrB0b** · 13-03-2011, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Larn

I haven't read the whole thread

So why did you reply? As a matter of common courtesy you should at least read the other replies before responding. Even if you'd just read the very first post you'd realize that your reply, stating the totally obvious, wasn't relevant to the discussion.

**Larn** · 13-03-2011, 06:49 PM

^ If you bother to read my reply I've included everything he needs to get his umphur divorce.

A quote from his last reply

Okay.. so it looks like she finally gave in, and we are just going to go to the amphur to get it done

**DrB0b** · 13-03-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Larn

If you bother to read my reply I've included everything he needs to get his umphur divorce.

Yes, we already know that. Who the eff you you to say "If you bother to read my reply" when you've already said you couldn't be bothered to read the 100 responses before your post?

**Larn** · 13-03-2011, 08:32 PM

Give it a rest Bob she’s caved in. The guy has to take his chance while he can and before her mates convince her to change her mind. He’s only in town for a short time. Why involve lawyers or wait out years if you don’t have to.

Drawp I hope this is of help. It comes from personal experience and not just copied and pasted from some website.

It’s no use going to the Umphur if your documents aren’t in order.

You were only married a short time so the chances she didn’t update her ID to what she indicated on marriage registration are pretty high. Check she has updated her card. The Umphur will just tell her to go away and return with an updated card if she hasn't. I’ve seen it happen more than once.

You need to take originals plus 2 x photocopies of your passport and arrival stamp. She needs original and 2 x photocopies of her ID card and House Card.

Take both original wedding certificates. The Umphur keeps these and hands each person their own Certificate of Divorce plus Khor Ror 6 Registration of Divorce once complete. An addendum stating any agreement details of the couple made on the written application will appear on the reverse of the Khor Ror 6.

The official should suggest you make a few photocopies of the original Khor Ror 6 which will be officially stamped. Make a few each as it’s easier to do there and then rather than try to return and do it at a later date.

The procedure at the Umphur is quite simple. On arrival take a number, fill in the written application and wait for your number to be called.

An official will go through the application and take the original documents plus photocopies. They ask if you fully understand what is happening and what was written on the application.

Once you agree the official types the paperwork while you wait. You will then go through the paperwork signing documents and having them witnessed.

Once that’s done, you will be passed on to the senior official who will check for typing or details mistakes in the paperwork before requesting more signatures from you. He may suggest you take the signed Khor Ror 6 and have photocopies made.

On return he will place the official stamp on the photocopies. He will also hand you each a Certificate of Divorce. You each get to keep original Khor Ror 6 too.

That should be it. All over and done with.

P.S. Don't be surprised if she tries a last chance grab for cash when you reach the Umphur. Stand your ground.

**DrB0b** · 13-03-2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Larn

Give it a rest Bob she’s caved in.

You're awfully mouthy for somebody who couldn't even be bothered to read the thread, you must be yet another of those delusionists who mistakenly believe that other people are as interested in your verbal flatulence as you are.

BTW, wtf is an Umphur?

**drawp** · 14-03-2011, 09:28 AM

Thanks Larn for the advice, we acutally did get her ID updated the day after we married. Unfortunately the ID situation in Thailand means she only has the yellow paper that says she doesn't physically have the card yet, but I guess that's as good as anything at this point.

We do have all of the documents in order thankfully so hopefully this should be a breeze. I didn't get out of this unscathed unfortunately, she did quite a number on my personal belongings this past week (cleaning lady let her in and she broke everything electronic, two laptops, two tvs, xbox, ps3, etc. ~10k usd in damage) when she came her to pick up the remainder of her things. Maybe that's what she caved.. either way I'm glad to be finally getting this done.

**nidhogg** · 14-03-2011, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by drawp

, she did quite a number on my personal belongings this past week (cleaning lady let her in and she broke everything electronic, two laptops, two tvs, xbox, ps3, etc. ~10k usd in damage) when she came her to pick up the remainder of her things. Maybe that's what she caved.. either way I'm glad to be finally getting this done.

Get the cleaning lady to go make a police report. Useful ammunition if needed later...

**Davis Knowlton** · 14-03-2011, 11:43 AM

^My thoughts exactly. Take photos of the broken items with you, just in case it gets messy. Good luck to you Drawp. Sounds like you will be well rid of this bitch.

**Fabian** · 14-03-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

There's a Grade 'A' prick in Udon who's just paid his missus 2 million to leave. The funny thing is, she's still there.

My ex wanted 1 million at first but I laughed at her. After a bit of negotiation she just got a fraction of that.

Everyone is only talking about divorce in Thailand (at least on the three pages I have read) but the OP is living in Macao as I understand. So first thing should be looked into is if thai law applies. I was married in Thailand but german law applied.

**king of uranus** · 24-03-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Fabian

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

There's a Grade 'A' prick in Udon who's just paid his missus 2 million to leave. The funny thing is, she's still there.

My ex wanted 1 million at first but I laughed at her. After a bit of negotiation she just got a fraction of that.

Everyone is only talking about divorce in Thailand (at least on the three pages I have read) but the OP is living in Macao as I understand. So first thing should be looked into is if thai law applies. I was married in Thailand but german law applied.

We were married in Thailand and we each had our own lawyers for a prenupt, with docs in both languages.

We plan to relocate to Thailand fairly soon and you guys have me worried if I didn't waste my money on lawyers! Anyway, LOS can't be worse that the US state we live in now.

**Carrabow** · 24-03-2011, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by drawp

she did quite a number on my personal belongings this past week (cleaning lady let her in and she broke everything electronic, two laptops, two tvs, xbox, ps3, etc. ~10k usd in damage) when she came her to pick up the remainder of her things. Maybe that's what she caved.. either way I'm glad to be finally getting this done.

That stuff can be replaced, if she is capable of that. Your lucky she didn't cut off your jewels when she had the chance.

Now that is something to think about...

Why do you think Thai women always have that one big cleaver in the kitchen? It's their multi-tool.

**drawp** · 08-04-2011, 06:55 AM

I had one of the six law firms I contacted just for quotes re: interpretation services [at] the Amphur and one of them had the following in their reply as part of their service:

legalize the divorce certificate with MFA of Thailand

Anyone know what this is about? I thought all that was necessary was that you needed to go to the Amphur and have the papers signed. Is this necessary if you get the document translated, or is it needed in all cases?

**manpet** · 08-04-2011, 03:07 PM

Thai civil code books 1--6 intresting information ,

**Lorenzo** · 14-04-2011, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by hawaiianbrian

Interesting that not one person asked him if there was any way that the marriage could be saved. I guess they all assumed there was never any love involved it was all a matter of lust/money grabbing/whatever! Happy Valentines Day!!!!

Saved for what?

You some kind of kinky collector?

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