Thread: Rig Work

Originally Posted by baldrick

yes , but safety spankers who have never worked as a trade or production get exactly the respect they deserve

Even the room boy gets treated with more respect than a couple of the HSE knobs we have around here. We had two of the dick heads play cops the other day and pulled in front of the crew bus (SWAT style) and checked everyone had seat belts. I have told our drivers next time they do it to ram them and just tell everyone you couldnt stop in time

^ yes HSE is needed , but I don't like the fcuks who have not actually worked any industrial situation before they gained their HSE certificates.

Originally Posted by Rigger

We have just finshed a contrat for BG now for these guys it was their first time drilling on land so they had all sorts of weird foked up ideas. I couldnt put together a bigger bunch of softcocks if tried maybe it's a britsh thing, it's wonder you guys get any thing done at all offshore.
Last time the offshore guys went on strike in Australia (due to no chocalate ice cream)they took a heap of guys of the land rigs and sent them offshore. then didnt want the offshore crews back.
Plus we have more fun on land rigs, Offshore knuts are to anal

Right, Drill Crew rivalry is something I've only heard of by the Aussie Drill Roustie who wrote that book 'Don't tell my mum I work on the rigs...' He has a few sly digs at North Sea Drill Crews in it.
I've met a few of the drilling guys on rigs in the north sea as I go from the pipe deck to the modules back again etc but never done any work for them so I can't comment on how good or bad they are.
They all seem hard-arsed folk and are rough diamonds at best and big aggressive knts at worst.
I guess there are differences, there always are with different sea sectors
Are you an Aussie by any chance mate?

There are always gonna be differences between onshore and offshore operations!
No.1 You cant run like fu*k into the desert when you have a gas release.oil fire or blow out No.2 Offshore emergency training is not required for the desert or land operations. No.3 Because of the limited manpower in an offshore environment Fire and Emergency training for all personnel must be included in the emergency work parameters. Foe example in the desert here in Libya in certain fields they have a Fire and Emergency Department,not sure they could do that in an offshore environment. Any way it doesn,t matter what trade band you are whether you are on or offshore if you do you job right and follow the safety procedures in place you should be ok.
Problem is you will always get a fu*kwit who thinks his short cut is better than the work permits,thats when your problems start.
Piper Alpha comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Rigger

We have just finshed a contrat for BG now for these guys it was their first time drilling on land so they had all sorts of weird foked up ideas. I couldnt put together a bigger bunch of softcocks if tried maybe it's a britsh thing, it's wonder you guys get any thing done at all offshore.
Last time the offshore guys went on strike in Australia (due to no chocalate ice cream)they took a heap of guys of the land rigs and sent them offshore. then didnt want the offshore crews back.
Plus we have more fun on land rigs, Offshore knuts are to anal

Having drilled offshore for the past 35 years, the stupid poms obviously never realised the difficulties of drilling on land compared to in 3000+ - ft of water

I agree the North Sea hands arn't the best but legislation *ucks people up there, they go into shock wherever they go to.
For winging mothers Offshore Aussies take some beating!

I can understand your hurry to get things done quickly, I dont worry too much about speed anymore, I will when I see a poor oil company, they got the money...........

I worked most of my career on land rigs in Canada and have spent the last seven years in the North Sea. The North Sea is retirement with pay compared to land work in Canada. When I worked in Canada in the eighties we would get North Sea crews coming over to work land and they didn't last a week. We used to call them North Sea pussies. Now that I have worked offshore I could never go back to land rigs, its just not civilized.

Originally Posted by baldrick

dangerous to your credit card health.

huh, is there such a thing as credit card health?

Originally Posted by thehighlander959

Google NEBOSH and have a look I know that there are companies who need qualified Safety Officers.

haha. and whose arse is on the line in the event of a fck up??

No thanks.

Anyone watched the series "Oil Sweat and Rigs" on discovery channel. Mostly US land rigs with some real idiots running the show. I can't recall the last time I saw a kelly on a proper land rig but here it is together with the cliched fat company man. Maybe the industry in the states really is 20 years behind the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Begbie

Anyone watched the series "Oil Sweat and Rigs" on discovery channel. Mostly US land rigs with some real idiots running the show. I can't recall the last time I saw a kelly on a proper land rig but here it is together with the cliched fat company man. Maybe the industry in the states really is 20 years behind the rest of the world.

30 years behind more like, seen the show a couple of times, made me cringe, a lot of what they do would be considerd criminal 'elsewhere'
The company I work for has a rig going to the Gulf and have been trying to hire 'hands' so far little success as few can pass drug testing, guess the land rig guys dont get tested!

Originally Posted by Slipstream

Are you an Aussie by any chance mate?

What do you think mate

Originally Posted by Airportwo

guess the land rig guys dont get tested!

They do with our company

Originally Posted by thehighlander959

whether you are on or offshore if you do you job right and follow the safety procedures in place you should be ok. Problem is you will always get a fu*kwit who thinks his short cut is better than the work permits,thats when your problems start. Piper Alpha comes to mind.

Are you a HSE cock

As a matter of fact no, I am the OIM/RSES offshore. However I am responsible for all Drilling, Production, Process,Maintenace and Construction in this offshore field,so I suppose really that my four fu*kwit HSE Officer wont qualify for your land rigs.
Thats ok I will keep them here we are already over two years without an LTI and a decent bonus coming from Total on the 31st August 2008.
Seems my HSE guys are doing it right (Safety First and all that)
By the the way my trade qualification is as a Gas Turbine Engineer. Used to work for Rolls Royce but have moved onwards and upwards as they say

Originally Posted by thehighlander959

As a matter of fact no, I am the OIM

Yeh we have FOM here who,s a cock. I love stirring the old fucker up as they know fuk all about drilling and knows even less than his HSE minions and get fok all respect from us guys on the drilling side for some reason me and him clash over every thing
I am glad we finshed the contract far to many oxygen thiefs here with fuk all to do other than try and fok with peoples opertions.
My last rig had 12 years with out a LTI and all was done with out the help of any usless HSE guys hanging around being bottom feeders.
The rig I am on at the moment is coming up to two years as well. I dont know what we re going to get this year as now we are paid a safety bouns every well

When Safety Bonuses depend on no LTI is it any wonder you send some one to hospital then bring him back to the rig the same day so he can lie on a stretcher painting the wall.

^
Very true. There is a lot of "massaging" done to HSE figures.

Originally Posted by Begbie

When Safety Bonuses depend on no LTI is it any wonder you send some one to hospital then bring him back to the rig the same day so he can lie on a stretcher painting the wall.

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

^ Very true. There is a lot of "massaging" done to HSE figures.

Near on impossible now days as if someone breaks a nail and I dont report it, it could cost me my job so all injuried people no matter how small are sent to our on site doctor and he refures most the time to a doctor in town. Even worse with shell as you are sent to three doctors if it even looks half serous as everone is covering there ass.

OK, thanks for your input, trying to figure what the best direction is to take. I'm doing an SCR course in Sing with NOV which should get me on a land rig but the training guy is talking to me about joining them as a service tech (which I knocked back as I would have to relocate) and waiting to hear back about the construction work.

I think doing the course and getting on a land rig would be the go as it pays well and gives even time rotation. I don't care where I am, I just like to get my head down on the job and get home.

Like you say, it will get me exposure and contacts and I can always go back to yachts.

What pisses me off is that even though I went out and got MCA Chief Engineer tickets I am restricted to yachts so I can't take that license out of yachting even though merchant guys can jump on yachts easily.

I know it's a large file but take the time to down load it as it's some pretty cool footage

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Very true. There is a lot of "massaging" done to HSE figures.

as there is in many fields...I've been reading this with interest even though I don't understand all the abbreviations...OIM/LTI/FOM etc...but the safety thing pays so much money...remember QANTAS landing in the golf course at Don Muang...they spent millions - more than the value of the plane - to be able to fly it out...if they can fly it out it doesn't count as a 'crash' allowing QANTAS to still boast that 'they have never had a plane crash'...

excellent thread BTW...

These massaged figures are all important especially to the contractor companies. It enables them to produce figures saying that the have very few LTI,s (Lost Time Incidents) FAC (First Aid Cases) RWC (Restricted Work Day Cases) NMI (Near Miss Incidents) the better your safety record the more chance your company has of being successful with your bid.
I have been with Total eight years now and we have a hit and miss record with sub-contractors enough to say some are better than others, I can only speak for offshore operations when I say that there has been a big improvement since the 1980,s when all contractors did not give a shit about the guys who worked for them, it was all done through agencies ripping the guys off. With Total now we enforce all contractors to ensure they have written contracts for all offshore employees ie.the guy does not come from an agency and is fully employed by the contractor. This way the contractor is responsible for his work and not some guy from an agency who at the end of the day is not responsible to anyone that includes contractor or client.
There are always opportunities offshore for good engineers in most trades the black trades ie. welding and specialist classification welders, plating and fitters are all required in the construction field. Electricians, Instrument Technicians and Pipe Fitters will always be required due to rig maintenance programs. All the trades I have mentioned if you have a CV and are interested in offshore operations try www.gps.eni.it AGIP is an Italian oil company but is multi-national, sometimes they are looking for people and have vessels and platforms all over the world

Here's a good link for you Klongy

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thanks for the effort to keep us 'outsiders' in the thread...