Thread: Getting Divorced

Why would you have to register it at the Embassy, they don't give a fuck and anytime she wants to go to the Embassy, before you pop your clogs or after, she will have to have certified copy of your marriage license.
She will have to go there and get a form from them to dispose of your carcase either for burial of cremation and present it to Thai police before anything can be done or your body will be shipped home.
She will have that right as your Next Of Kin, which is proved by a copy of the marriage license you got from the amphur when it was recorded.

I have already checked and have things in order.
But my wife will still have to take our marriage license to the embassy to obtain the form for the police.

PS. Fabian, no one can touch a SSA pension, No One.
The FBI can file a warrant for your arrest and can delay payments if they plan to extradite you from where ever you are, but if they refuse to extradite you then your pension starts back up. Retroactive from suspension date.

Originally Posted by CRSD

After being happily married for quite some time, my wife still hasn't caught on to why I really keep putting off buying a condo or house. My income is from the US Treasury dept (translated social security pension) and as such is untouchable in divorce (my American wife found that out). She also only recently realized (I think a friend said something to her) that I have never registered our marriage with the US embassy. We only go to the states for short visits and she goes on a tourist visa. Now that she has caught on to our marriage only being recognized in Thailand, she's on my tail to get to the embassy...lol...not that divorce is on the mind, just been there before and believe in covering my arse. Never know what could happen. The last marriage lasted more than 20 years, didn't see it coming.

Think I know what you mean, however, a few questions.

a. Is your marriage recognised in the US for widow pension benefits?
b. In the event that you do divorce at some time, do you know the route to inform the US treasury that you're no longer married?

To be honest, think that you're making more of this than actually exists. If you were talking about a million dollar insurance policy etc, then yes, I could be sympathetic with your concern. Think you need to review your relationship, and whether the future welfare of the wife (and children/family?) are important to you. If they are, then obviously you need to put into place whatever notifications are necessary to ensure that they receive the maximum benefits on your (hopefully not soon) demise. Nobody needs to make a 'spin' out of that, only common sense.

Originally Posted by PAG

a. Is your marriage recognised in the US for widow pension benefits?

Not unless she has resided in the country for 5 years it is not..

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by PAG

a. Is your marriage recognised in the US for widow pension benefits?

Not unless she has resided in the country for 5 years it is not..

I believe you, just seems odd that recognition of marriage is related to a term of residency and not actual certified proof. On my part, I've got a company pension, which recognises the 'good lady' (even though we're not married at the moment) who is nominated as my next of kin for widow pension purposes. Not enough for her to have me 'whacked', but good to know that she'll have a reasonable level of income support in the future.

I was wondering about that a few years ago and checked with getting my wife a SSA card and if she would qualify as my dependant when I died for my SSA pension,
The laws have changed and since 9/11 they can not get a SSA card and number, but you can get a # to use as a deduction for tax purposes, but to claim a pension again my SSA benefits at retirement age, my wife will have to have lived in the USA for a period of 5 years.
But that has nothing to do with private pensions, only SSA,
But for her to qualify for my union pensions, we would have had to have been married at the time of my retirement and the boundrys set at that time.

The embassy here has told me that they give a fuck about registering a Thai marrage, but upon my death, my next of Kin (wife) will have to come in with our Thai marriage license and get a letter from them that she can dispose of my remains, and that is required by the Royal Thai police,,now thats according to the Embassy and so I take it as FACT, if I would have heard it from Thai immigration or the Thai govt, then I would question it.

Originally Posted by Fabian

CRSD, I would not feel that secure in your case. Have you checked with a lawyer?

Yep....lol...always got me arse covered. US social security is untouchable by any litigant and the US will not recognize a foreign marriage if it is not registered with the US embassy and that I got from the embassy before I got married.

Hi All,
I hope someone might be able to give me a rough idea of where I stand in the following situation please:
I was married to a Thai national in Dec 2003. She subsequently moved over on a spouse visa in Feb 2004. We have a son together who was born later that year. Due to violence I persuaded her to return to Thailand mid 2005 and informed Uk immigration that the spouse visa was no longer valid as I refused to have her living with me. Although I haven't been to court for any official documents I have brought up my son as a single parent since she left for Thailand and she has had no contact with him apart from the odd phonecall once or twice a year. I have not been back to Thailand since and have no intention of ever going back there again. As I have been a single parent I no longer own any property in the UK and survive currently on Tax credits in the UK living in rented accomodation. I also have no assets. I have copies of the marriage certificates and my son was born and his birth registered in the UK not in Thailand. My question is really how would I best go about getting an official divorce in order to remarry in the UK (to a UK national). I have never registered the marriage in the UK at any point though they did 'recognise' the marriage for the purposes of registering my son's birth. (I went alone to register the birth and was able to do this as I was married to the mother. I also have some concerns about causing myself any trouble with regard to custody over my son -as you can imagine he does not know his mother and the thought of him being shipped over to a foreign country with complete strangers gives me nightmares and there is no way I would let him out of the country to stay with her even if it was supposed to be a temporary arrangement. If there was a possibility of having some sort of arrangement like that forced upon me then I would rather not get married again and leave well alone!
Apologies for the long winded first post but if anyone can advise it would be greatly appreciated.