Thread: "UK Immigration has made a decision on your visa...

Originally Posted by somtamslap

I could try again - but the fact that they've apparently totally overlooked half of paperwork we submitted has left a very sour taste and I actually feel physically ill when thinking about it.

Will breathe deep for a week or two and reaccess.

Know several people who failed with the first application, applied again with almost identical paperwork and passed.

I reckon they do it just to thin out the applicants a bit since many who try once don't try again.

Also, a nice little earner for the thieving bastards.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Almost all the Thai wives I've seen in the UK have become fat, and only worked as cleaners or in restaurants - the usual. They are isolated, and unambitious, they don't adapt well at all. Only a very few genuinely adapt to being here - just as only the very few of us genuinely adapt to life over there. People who would be here anyway, spouse or not. The grass is always greener - I hate lots about life in the UK, but I'd probably hate lots about it in Thailand too (been there done that, might do it again ;p).

You must know a different bunch of Thais in the UK to me then, my misses must have 10+ Thai mates and all but one of them are grafters due to them realising they can make some proper coin for the first time in their lives and the all but one is also the one carrying any weight but she is still half the size of the average English lass. As to being isolated I guess that depends where in the UK you live, I'm lucky in Crewe in that there is a Thai shop here which is a de facto meeting place for Thais all over the place and they all seem to go out of their way to help each other. And as to being ambitious I must admit to having to kick the misses up the arris due to her constantly moaning about her boss saying he was a lazy cnut and she could do a better job and now she's the boss and loving it earns more in a month now than she did in a year working in a Bangkok hospital.

I don't "know" them, I've seen them a-plenty. I talk to them in Thai/Lao, Engrish etc..., but I'm not that excited about going round to a Taxi driver's house to listen to him talk in bloken engrish to his tattoed-cleaner wife.

....but I jest ...Actually, it more diverse than I said... so I'll correct myself... I've lived in both the north and the south.

I've encountered them at every level, the spoilt (and often chubby) chinky-thai brats at uni; the far less common more average Thais (a middle class couple from an Isan town doing PhDs in nanoscience), and other academic ones who got hooked up with a British postgrad whilst studying and ended up as a lab tech or similar; the birds who get visas to work in Thai restaurants; and the owners who got work permits to do JVs with chinkies or brits or indians (depending on the area); the tattooed whores with multi-father brown offspring; the more mature more classy ladies with older British husbands who've done well in business; the very frequently-encountered cleaner wives with blue-collar British husband; the also very frequently-encountered midly tattooed gobshite Patters-type women who may drink, smoke, play cards, shop, spend half their time on facebook uploading selfies and shag DJs to get into nightclubs with their mates whilst their young respectful-of-thai-culture meek British husband looks after their new baby (that happened when I went out on the town in a southern city with about 8 Thai working-class birds, one or two with large tattoos, one or two not and getting lots of attention, and dolled up to the max like birds in Patters; I know of another who works in London in a massage parlour 5 days a week whilst her two kids are dumped in squalor with a decrepid tramp in his council flat and junkyard shop; I know the ones who run businesses themselves as well, run not as well as they could, but are friendly and work hard. I've met the super rich Thais on holiday in the UK, and tribal/refugee ones from Burma, I think I've more or less encountered most categories of Thai bird in the UK, and got a feel for the percentages of each. On reflection, of the ones that actually live here permanently (it wouldn't be fair to include skinny young students only here for a short while), around half of them are definitely chubbier than they would be in Thailand - and some of them properly knob-floppily fat.

I have to say the oriental shops in Leeds behind the Headrow are miles better than the titchy little ones along the south coast. I imagine the shop in Crewe isn't a big one.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Receiving condolences from your mukkas with their added invective etc is fine but not helpful.

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Reading between what lines there are, it seems the visa officer may have concluded a visit visa was a ploy to circumvent a settlement visa for which she and you, as sponsor, might not qualify.

Despite the invective, I have helped a lot of people fix their bureaucratic and appeal-type problems, and have a good rate of getting positive results for people, because I'm not a touchy-feely type, but an objective-coldshower type, but anyway...

I think there are some visa staff who are going to reject whatever, and all but the best prepared will fail because of them - they look at every case presented as though it's a ploy and not a genuine application.

To win, you need to overprepare the case you're making, and get all the documentation in place, and resolve all the logical/intent and usually money issues cleared up and the argument made simple and consistent, so restrict what they can come back with - they'll go for any semblance of an inconsistency in what's presented, even if it's obvious that it's not a real inconsistency, because, as SeenkingAsylum says the pressure on them is to get numbers down - especially when they have stories of fake gay marriages and criminals not being deported to fend off.

It was probably too easy in the past, and now your intended needs to be the sort of person who would be let in with or without you; and then it's all about logical intent as to why each visa was applied for... that and them having assets, english, skills etc...

Look-khreung Kids born outside of marriage have a particularly raw deal if they were born outside the UK, and have none of the associated paperwork. Quite angering when you see the numbers of illiterate immigrant kids being pumped out in the ghettos by all the tinted folk who live in a parallel society, but I digress...



If you want help, type up the text or scan a redacted version of the letter, so someone can analyse it and come up with ways to patch up the holes.

About England...

...the words 'fuck' and 'this' spring emphatically to mind.

See you in a few months, chaps...

Originally Posted by somtamslap

About England...

...the words 'fuck' and 'this' spring emphatically to mind.

See you in a few months, chaps...

Fuck we got 2 weeks before our parole date.
Chok dee.

sorry to hear the news, hope it all works out mate

Cheers Boll.

Obliged mate.

Did you go through agency?, If not how much coin did it cost you?

There wasn't that much paperwork involved... compared to the bible. But after all the photocopying and translating had been done it came to some 10,000 baht all in...

I just spoke to a friend regarding holiday visas, he has a friend who charges 8 or 9000 baht on top of the 10,000 baht you paid and what he does is make sure you do everything correctly with no mistakes and he will also advise on the things your Missus will need to show and say and whatlike.

He's very good at it I hear, if you need his number or email let me know mate, probably good to speak to him anyhow, he may be able to show you where you went wrong and how to put it right.

Cheers Bol... will bear that in mind. But in the meantime any visa applications made would strictly be for short visits, which is somet I will sort out when I'm there. Will probably be in touch about this a few months down the line...

Still think you should appeal slap, costs next to nothing and you get the satisfaction of writing an abusive letter telling them how they fucked up, presuming you still can appeal unless they changed that too.

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Originally Posted by Necron99
Have you thought of speaking to your MP?
Yes, and I have. Kunt's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Know how you feel mate ,, took my missus to meet our local MP when she first arrived here The Right Honourable Douglas C ( arse ) well ,, then when it came to one of the many hoops we had to jump through and I asked him for a letter of reference to show he had met her previously ,, his reply was a lecture about how there were too many immigrants in the Country and the government was determined to do something about it and sorry on this occasion he could not help me .

Fast forward 7 years ,, he knocked on my door last week with his cronies touting for our votes ,, KARMA moment ensued ,, I said hold on a minute , got his letter from my top draw by my bed ( ruffled around among numerous blue diamond shaped pills ) cough ,,, showed it to him and told him

" I wouldn't piss on you if you was on fire ! "

Goodnight

Always been the way go after easy targets, as far as I'm concerned everyone should have a right to family life as in if you're married to a foreigner and it's a genuine marriage they should automatically have the right to live with you in the UK, pretty much used to be that way. But they can't stop anyone coming from the EU as they are legally allowed to, they can't seem to stop illegal immigrants from entering by various means so all they can do to show they are trying to clamp down on immigration is decline spouse visas.

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

KARMA

A dish best served cold. Beautifully done, Nige...

Originally Posted by buriramboy

presuming you still can appeal unless they changed that too.

Nope, no official appeal can be made - although it didn't stop me from writing a strong letter; which probably didn't get read. Fucking ball-ache.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Still think you should appeal slap, costs next to nothing and you get the satisfaction of writing an abusive letter telling them how they fucked up

A letter ? This guy writes a thesis about his bowel movements...

wHAT i'D PAY FOR THAT LETTER IN EPUB FORMAT...

fukkin caps

I would love to see someone ( preferably me ) win Friday nights £90million jackpot and take this bastard government on .

I am sure that the highest barrister in the land ,, you know the kind of man who got Fergie off for using the hard shoulder around Manchester claiming he wanted a shit )
,, would somehow be able to dig up some clause whereby any 2 people legally married especially with children should be allowed to live together wherever .

Until then we have to keep smiling as we pay our taxes here so the big fat single Lithuainian mothers , who are Jack shit to do with England , can continue to send they're family benefits back home to they're children

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Yes, it's really left me in limbo... but as long as I'm earning I won't complain.

You might try taking Por off the list.

Originally Posted by bowie

Somtamslap;

First my condolences, I know the denial is a shock and a slap-in-the-face. I also know the anger you feel.

Take your deep breath and think about it before you make a decision. Don’t let anger cloud your judgment.


I’m American, so, no apples-to-apples comparison here. However, in the USA, earlier times, some 13/14 years ago.

Back then, in the USA, if your wife was eligible for an immigration visa, she would be denied a tourist (visitors) visa. The USA would want her to apply for an immigration visa.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

^ Visiting family / or tourist visa I think the chap said they are now called.

Again, I offer my condolences, and I’m not comparing apples-to-apples as I don’t know your immigration system. But, is it possible that her “tourist or visitors” visa was denied because she is eligible for and should be applying for "permanent legal residence" as the spouse of a citizen?

Because of the financial implications and benefits I would not consider leaving the job until I had exhausted all my options. If I was in your shoes, I would be investigating an immigration visa for my wife.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

Seems us embassy either denies a lot or is way more efficient then the uk. Appointments for interviews are less then 2 days out and processing time is only one day. In theory if your approved you can have a us tourist visa in lessthen a week.

Got the bastard thing at last.

One question. The mrs has been told she isn't able to travel until a certain date; is this normal?

Originally Posted by Necron99

It's aa pretty sad state when a genuine marriage with sprogs no less has to go through all this fuckwittery but a romainian beggar can just get on a ferry.....

Seems to be the same way in Australia, boat people sailing straight in but if applying through the proper channels it was an expensive laborious frustrating process.

Something not right about that EH.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Got the bastard thing at last.

One question. The mrs has been told she isn't able to travel until a certain date; is this normal?

Dont know about travel dates, but well done, congrat's
Visiting Brighton ?

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Got the bastard thing at last.

One question. The mrs has been told she isn't able to travel until a certain date; is this normal?

The visa should have a valid from or until date on it, if you put down on application form wanted to travel on 1 Jan 2015 for example that maybe when they issued it for.

Good news.