Thread: Preventing the issuance of a Thai passport

Now my marraige is totaly over I wish to ensure that passports are not organised for my Thai children without my OK.
My ex has been threatening to leave Thailand for god knows where with the children in tow.
My understanding is that for a Thai passport to be issued consent must be given by both mother and father. Is this true and how would this work when the marraige is over?

in theory a parent cannot take children on a plane o/s without both parents consent also.....

reality is that it tends to apply to fathers only...

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Yes that is how I feel as well. I just want to be able to prevent her from doig something really stupid

You need to have permission from the legal guardian not the parents.

When you got divorced the thai mother will in 99% of cases become the legal guardian.

You are stuffed, you have no say in the matter.
It happened to me with our daughter but in the end the ex didn't send her to America.

^ my mate's x took herself and their daughter to the states, nothing he could do either.

Consult a lawyer.....

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Thanks.

If,through the courts etc, you get to see your kids on say weekends,doesn't that allow you some protection.In NZ,if a parent takes the children without permission of both parents,it's called kidnapping.

I agree with Thetters, a friend had a similar situation but was lucky enough to become the legal guardian and as such in control of decisions like passports.
During his divorce his ex used to call up demanding 5 million baht for their 2 kids. She wanted money more than her own children!

I havent been in the situation myself but having ur kids grow up in a country like America might be a great start in life for them. Difficult one though.

Originally Posted by Troubled

Now my marraige is totaly over I wish to ensure that passports are not organised for my Thai children without my OK.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. But this is toatally possible and does happen on a regular basis.

This is what happens. The wife and a friend go down to the amphur. The officials ask mom "do you know the dad?" Mom says no. Her friend says "Yes, that is true."

Then a few weeks later the child has a Thai passport.

I'm wondering does she have the means to move overseas.

Meanwhile, getting a Thai passport is one thing, getting a visa in a Thai passport is something completely different.

If, and I suspect it is a big if, she does try to run overseas, your best bet at preventing this would be to issue a court order on the embassy of the nation she wants to run to preventing the child's movement overseas.

FYI the international convention governing this is the HAGUE CONVENTION.

If I can also correct something else. The mother may indeed get guardianship, you should in anycase fight for shared guardianship with agreed minimum access rights. But even if you did not, EU law and US law protects your children's rights to have contact with the father.

OK we all know women ignore this on a regular basis. BUT EMBASSIES DO NOT.

You could therefore prevent any 'civilized world' embassy from issuing a visa in order to protect yours and your children's rights.

If she does infact have the means and the will to move overseas, get a lawyer.

If she does not and remains dependant on your financial support - Stick it to her. She plays the game or no money.


My own attitude under the circumstances you mention would be to use the advantage fathers have in Thai courts and take custody of your child.

Best of luck

Originally Posted by Itchy

If I can also correct something else. The mother may indeed get guardianship, you should in anycase fight for shared guardianship with agreed minimum access rights. But even if you did not, EU law and US law protects your children's rights to have contact with the father.

That also means nothing in the US, My kid is there but I only have contact with my kid if the mother wants and I have no recourse if she moves and does not tell me.

Like I say, what mothers get away with and what Embassies absolutely will comply with are two different things.