HAND GUNS

You just need to be a young punk in the village and go around shooting it in the air. This is what happened here last night. I was told he has done this before so I asked, "why don't you just call the police?" and got nothing but a blank stare.

I guess what I am saying is that anyone can carry a handgun "illegally."

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Americans and your guns, fuk me you're all insane (not you, Davis, the others... :)).

If I had a gun, I think I'd get drunk and shoot someone(s); & I'm relatively sane(ish); I just can't see how a gun culture can be of benefit to society. Sorry. I'll get me hat...

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Guns ownership requires a significant level of personal responsibilty. The mistake in the USA is they let people who misuse firearms off lightly while throwing the book at someone who smokes reifer. Its insane how poor implemented the judicial system is.

Take a country like Switzerland where ownership of a firearm is mandatory for everyone. Everyone recieves training and is required to practice at the shooting range. Misuse of a firearm has severe consequenses.
Note that firearm related violence in Switzerland isn't even high enough to chart, while per capita ownership of firearms is higher than perhaps anywhere else on the planet.
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This is not correct. It is not mandatory for inhabitants in Switzerland to own firearms. If, however, you have done military service, you are allowed to keep your gun even after you no longer can perform military duties. Also the ownership per capita is highest in the US globally, Swizerland has position four. Second in Europe, Finland has more.

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Originally Posted by FailSafe

I've still got a Sig 226 in my dad's safe in the States- it never jammed with over 1K rounds through (even shitty range ammo- it would feed everything)- it's about twice what a decent Glock costs, so I would guess it to be over 150K in LOS (I don't remember seeing one in the shop).

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Loads in the shops around Chinatown, start at 120k.

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Think about this; governments feel a whole lot safer with the general public disarmed. Hence the move to demonize firearms and remove them from law abiding citizens. Then you end up with the situation were only criminals posess firearms ....

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The criminals ...yes. And the police. And the military.

Only carry what you are prepaired to do the time for.

In the USA there are now 49 of 50 states that have some method of concealed carry.

The most law abiding citizens, with almost 20 years of data, are the ones who have a carry permit. Period.

just because you state it does not make it true. Period

try giving a link

here in thailand
permit is no less than 20.000 for thai national/foreigner forget it
carry it in holster, forget it (not easy as you may think)
in a case, unloaded no problem,(only the stupid mindless police may go nuts because you have a gun, and you're not one of them,) but having said that why would you carry it in a case unloaded(no point)
in your property you can use it,(if feels threatened by someone, anyone) family (father) included,:ourrules:

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Originally Posted by poorfalang

carry it in holster, forget it (not easy as you may think)

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My missus carries hers in her handbag. Some kind of chink .38 I think, the weapon not the missus. Loaded too, again weapon only. Bloody annoying as it makes lifting the odd B5,000 from her purse for a night out a fairly risky busines.

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Originally Posted by poorfalang

permit is no less than 20.000 for thai national/foreigner forget it

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Dunno what price a farang has to pay, never met one who owned a frirearm legally in Thailand but the total price (about 3 years ago) for all the permits required by a Thai was B2,000.