Thread: Going Nuts With New Build

Originally Posted by DrAndy

If you have any knowledge about bulding at all (and maybe you don't, with your nik), get proper building plans drawn up. You can probably find someone in the local council offices who will happily do it in his working hours,

Then get a contractor to bid for the main foundations and cement works, including roof

once that is nearly complete, start finding subcontractors for the electrical/plumbing/tiling etc

Yes, absolutely spot on- nick and all, I am white collar, know nuts about any technical stuff, and looking hard for what you guys are advising.

Originally Posted by lesdunbar

Hi, We are having a 2 bed room house house built at Ampher Phen. approx 50k,s from Udon Thani It includes 2 separate toilets ( one En Suite) / tiled roof/ extra large lounge / dining room . Small red bricks not the large besa/concrete blocks.
All materials supplied painted and built for Baht 850,000

What is your built in space, if i may ask, Les? If it is around my plan, i'll be delighted if you could ask him if he'll do my place. I'm okay with red bricks - in fact thinking of these. and the cheaper trilon roof...easier for the builder, i am told. thank you so much! Please PM me if your builder will build in Loei

Originally Posted by FarangRed

I almost forgot, dont use any of the extended family or else the job will take longer than the sound of music (film)

hahaha...i love "sound fo music" and julie andrews....but, point taken, and acknowledged as I almost fell for this

Originally Posted by BallBreaker

OP get a proper set of plans drawn up. It should include list of materials required and then you might be able to get a decent quote for the job.

Loei must really be laid back place because in my neck of the woods north of Korat you couldn't get electric without house number and that required a set of plans before government office would issue. Like you I just had floor plan drawing so government office sent out to have proper plans drawn up including list of materials. Cost only 4k baht at the time. Well worth the price.

BB, i am not a scrooge with the proper plans; i just had a few lousy experience with the people i approached for the plans...they either took a long time to respond or never bothered to reply when I wanted some minor changes.....and on top of this, i gather local builders don't bother with plans...so I did my own (with some semi professional help). Plus i am am told - just go ahead, build it...do whatever you want! I got my water and electric without house number or anything near official! Perhaps the sister in law being in the local orbortor office paved the way?

Originally Posted by buycondojomtien

Seems like it should be a lot cheaper in Esan.

I agree 1000%! which is why i need guidance....

Originally Posted by Headache2

I've just finished building a house in a northern Loei. Mine came in roughly in the range that Loy Toy mentioned. We're in the same neck of the woods, if you want to compare notes some time let me know.

Good luck with the build.

For sure, mate....i don't want your "headache" (and you have 2???) though! seriously...i am about 50km from Loei, in Phu Luang. Please PM if we are anywhere close - perhaps we can exchange plans and cost...and maybe meet up for beers and such!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

My friend had this place built in Loei a few years ago. I can try and see if he knows of a reasonable builder in the area for you.

WOW!!! This looks like 800 sq m compared to my meagre 80sg m! But...if it goes for below 1m...I'll go for it!

Hi All. Can anyone teach me how to insert my plans and drawings? I would like to submit my simple plan for your comments and advice...

I'm building a house in Nong Bua Lam Phu and you are welcome to come and see it and talk with contractor. I have been very pleased with his work. I have a provincially approved floor plan and with it, he was able to give me a labor quote. We are purchasing all materials ourselves. My email is: retiredone2007[at]gmail.com or you can call me at 087-017-1330. My name is Gary.

I built a house near Ubon Ratchathani 18 months ago. It has all western standards, bathrooms that work, a European kitchen with hob and oven, three bedrooms with a/c and large living areas and open verandas. I bought all the materials and had a labour contract - well I had two actually! The first "team" put up the structure and as I was not very happy with their work (I was glad I only got them to quote for the work they did) I found another "team" to build the walls, instal all the plumbing and electrical works and do the finishes etc. This second team was fantastic - their price did not change and even if I made a few minor changes when we were building they did not take the opportunity to pull any "fast ones"! I was extremely lucky with them I now realise! In total I think my costs came to around Baht7,500/sq.m. OK I know building materials have risen in the past 18 months so you should be able to build 80sq.m for under 1 million baht, including ALL the materials! Good luck and I could NOT have done it without my Thai partner who did all the "on site" instructions, under my supervision!

The first house I had built in Thailand was 10 years ago I have to say I had not one problem with builder I told them what I wanted and make some changes and it was done.

I guess I was lucky to find this builder but he had already built a house on the plot next door so I could see exactly what he had done.

This builder had everything in house so to speak he did all the drawings and the building permits, the lot

Try and find a builder who can do everything for you, I know here many builders who can do.

There are some good books you can buy would be helpful to you, even I have one

"How to buy land and Build a House in Thailand"

Originally Posted by retiredone2007

I'm building a house in Nong Bua Lam Phu and you are welcome to come and see it and talk with contractor. I have been very pleased with his work. I have a provincially approved floor plan and with it, he was able to give me a labor quote. We are purchasing all materials ourselves. My email is: retiredone2007[at]gmail.com or you can call me at 087-017-1330. My name is Gary.

Thanks for the invite, Gary. Will email you. Am heading for Udon in a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by alonia

I built a house near Ubon Ratchathani 18 months ago. It has all western standards, bathrooms that work, a European kitchen with hob and oven, three bedrooms with a/c and large living areas and open verandas. I bought all the materials and had a labour contract - well I had two actually! The first "team" put up the structure and as I was not very happy with their work (I was glad I only got them to quote for the work they did) I found another "team" to build the walls, instal all the plumbing and electrical works and do the finishes etc. This second team was fantastic - their price did not change and even if I made a few minor changes when we were building they did not take the opportunity to pull any "fast ones"! I was extremely lucky with them I now realise! In total I think my costs came to around Baht7,500/sq.m. OK I know building materials have risen in the past 18 months so you should be able to build 80sq.m for under 1 million baht, including ALL the materials! Good luck and I could NOT have done it without my Thai partner who did all the "on site" instructions, under my supervision!

Your prices are in line with my guesstimates; i do have a problem, being not so lucky with my Thai "partner"...who do not believe in checking on prices and will pay whatever is quoted. and i am handicapped with limited Thai. However, advice taken, am looking at costs between 700 to 800k for 80 sq m

If you need to get a building permit, then it's a good idea to get the house plans drawn up by the guy who is mates with the OrBortor, otherwise you might find that your plans do not meet OrBorTor standard number 31c/12

Simon

Originally Posted by Simon43

If you need to get a building permit, then it's a good idea to get the house plans drawn up by the guy who is mates with the OrBortor, otherwise you might find that your plans do not meet OrBorTor standard number 31c/12

Simon

I guess i'd better double check...was under the impreesion that being in the boonies,. you just build..no need for permits. Now i won't take the chance...

Originally Posted by muffdiver

Originally Posted by Headache2

I've just finished building a house in a northern Loei. Mine came in roughly in the range that Loy Toy mentioned. We're in the same neck of the woods, if you want to compare notes some time let me know.

Good luck with the build.

For sure, mate....i don't want your "headache" (and you have 2???) though! seriously...i am about 50km from Loei, in Phu Luang. Please PM if we are anywhere close - perhaps we can exchange plans and cost...and maybe meet up for beers and such!

Definitely. We're on opposite sides of Loei, so not quite next door. We're up on the Mekong. You're welcome to come by and see what we've done. Just been through it and happy to share what info I can. Don't think I can help with the builder though, looking for a new one myself as we have more building to do. Like you I seem to have limited rights here, can't to the PM thing, my number is 084-8435634.

Cover your ass^ what the fuk are you lot talking about? I mean man your only talking about fuking 80sqm not the fuking Empire State Building.

My swimming pool is bigger than that, get a life man and get out there and learn to live in Thailand or you will never survive.

If your are living in the country, no need for a building permit. If you are centered in a city or large town, then you may want to look into it. Not sure what FarangRed is on about, but you learn by doing. Never heard of anyone out my way needing a building permit. There are no building code inspections and no real oversight of remodeling or building a new structure unless you are in the city limits. So take all the thread information with a grain of salt. There is nothing for certain here in Thailand except you will be cheated out of money if you do not watch over things. This happen in every country when it comes to construction and is not isolated to Thailand.
If you want to get a building permit and go through all the steps you would in your homeland, that is your choice. Personally, I live in the country and nobody gives a fuck what and how you build.

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

Originally Posted by muffdiver

Originally Posted by Simon43

If you need to get a building permit, then it's a good idea to get the house plans drawn up by the guy who is mates with the OrBortor, otherwise you might find that your plans do not meet OrBorTor standard number 31c/12

Simon

I guess i'd better double check...was under the impreesion that being in the boonies,. you just build..no need for permits. Now i won't take the chance...

Yes - cover your ass. It is possible that the current OrBorTor is fine with this; I don't know - but what happens when a new one comes in? If you don't have the proper papers, you are ripe for extortion by anyone who knows. Better safe than sorry, always.

i am flabbergasted how all this works....i've actually asked around, seems like 90% around this neighbourhood have never heard about having to draw a plan...or a permit from the orbortor....! but, nonetheless, i AM going to cover my ass in case some palms come outstretched....

Just completed my 3x bedroom,2x bthroom,living room and kitchen. 110 sq metres near khorat,Price 1.1 million....Paid in 3 x instalments...300,000 bht deposit,500,000baht when floor ,outer walls and roof built,then another 300,000 on completion of which i recieved 35,000 bht refund,My friend,there are good honest thai -builders around but they are just hard to find but keep looking,The price of 1.3 million that you"ve been quoted,WELL, all i can say is he"s having a f**king laugh and thinks you are a really, really stupid farang.GOOD LUCK mate....