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    Ok guys this is great stuff learning more about flushing and the need to bolt the toilet down and all.

    Now the link I found indicates there is at least a method to seal this joint between the toilet and the 4 inch pipe. If a person really wanted to and did not have the flange kit to anchor the toilet correctly then why could you not mark out 4 holes on the floor, drill it and put some threaded studs in and then using this wax gasket mount the toilet and secure it to the now added studs with nuts and you essentially have a properly installed toilet.


    If you take the time to do the job right the first time you won't need to "find" the time to go back a second time

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    Quote Originally Posted by HINO View Post
    Ok guys this is great stuff learning more about flushing and the need to bolt the toilet down and all.

    Now the link I found indicates there is at least a method to seal this joint between the toilet and the 4 inch pipe. If a person really wanted to and did not have the flange kit to anchor the toilet correctly then why could you not mark out 4 holes on the floor, drill it and put some threaded studs in and then using this wax gasket mount the toilet and secure it to the now added studs with nuts and you essentially have a properly installed toilet.
    You can........ that's how it's intended on concrete, the above example is on a wood floor...But mark it out, install the anchors and wait until the bathroom floor is finished first before finally mounting the toilet.. protect the hole with duct tape so the locals don't think it's something to pour concrete in and make sure they don't tile over it. give it enough surrounding reveal to allow for your wax ring or whatever your going to use but enough overlay so that your toilet will be properly supported evenly..

    Before you mount it put a nice bead of white silicone calk all the way around the base and then set it.. Use an ice cube to smooth the calking that squeezes out at the base that way you'll get a nice finished seal and you won't get any on your hands, you'll get a nice smooth finish because it won't stick to the ice cube..

    Your probably going to have the best working toilet in Thailand, lucky you!!!

    BTW A few years ago I did see some wax rings sitting on a bottom shelf somewhere just catching dust and I was shocked to even see em, but damn if I can remember where I saw em at, I can narrow it down to BKK though if that's any help!
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    DrivingForce thanks for the tips and advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyTits View Post
    Are these not needed in Thailand ?




    Seems every damm toilet here is just lined up over a tiled hole and then sealed around the outside of the bowl gluing it in place.

    WTF ???
    Now if you will notice the keyhole shaped slots on each side of the flange, these are for the bowl hold down bolts and the wax ring goes on the nub that stickes out of the bottom of the bowl and goes into that dished out cavity where the rag is that keep the sewer gas from getting in the bathroom while the bowl is off.
    Then when the bolts are tightened they compress the wax ring and forms the water tight seal between bowl and flange.

    Wrong, you have to have this flange or you are just doing it the Thai way with a varation,, Wax is soft and unless supported will not seal properly, it sets around th 2 1/2 inch nub on the bottom of the toilet and seals onto that nub and the bottom of the casting, ansd when set on the flande seals into the cup shaped hole in the flange,As you tighten the bolts the ring takes the shape of the bottom of toilet and fills that cup indent in the flane as there is plenty of wax to do that, and when you remove the toilet from the flange for any reason, like she flushed to many kotex or baby diapers and the toilet had to come up, be sure you have a new beeswax ring to do the job correctly going back in,

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