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    Anger about 'stitch-up' over Digital Economy Bill (UK)

    Ministers have been accused of a "stitch-up" to pass laws cracking down on digital piracy before the election.

    MPs voiced anger at the digital economy bill - aimed at supporting artists' copyright and tackle illegal file-sharing - being rushed into law.

    Former minister Tom Watson had argued it would be a "catastrophic disaster" if the bill was passed as constituted.
    However, the bill was approved by MPs by a majority of 142 votes and it passed through the Lords on Thursday.

    The legislation was one of more than 10 bills being considered by parliamentarians in the "wash-up period" - the remaining time before the legislature is dissolved.
    Parliament was prorogued late on Thursday afternoon, meaning any bills that had not been passed would fail to become law.

    'Repercussions'
    Under the terms of the Digital Economy Bill, internet service providers will be obliged to send letters to any of their subscribers linked to alleged infringements.
    Copyright holders will be able to app ly for a court order to gain access to the names and addresses of serious infringers and take action against them while ISPs would be able to suspend accounts of offenders.

    Mr Watson had expressed concern this could lead to innocent internet users being caught simply since they lived in the same building as infringers.
    "There might be a deal with the Tory front bench and the Lib Dem front bench but there are 20,000 people who have taken the time to e-mail their MPs about this in the last seven days alone," Mr Watson said of the proposals.
    "They are extremely upset that this bill will not have the scrutiny it deserves and requires."

    Labour MP Kate Hoey complained the bill was being pushed through by a "stitch-up" between leaders of the three main parties.
    And she added: "The reality is out there, the ordinary person who has only begun, many of them, to realise the repercussions of this bill are going to feel totally let down by Parliament."

    Ministers had made a number of earlier concessions in order to assuage the concerns of MPs.
    Restrictions on the activities of persistent copyright offenders will not come into force for a year and only on the basis of clear evidence of their activities.
    A clause on "orphan works" - material where the author was impossible to identify - was also dropped after opposition from photographers.

    Another proposal allowing politicians to block pirate websites without primary legislation was replaced with an amendment which lets ministers "make provision about the granting by a court of a blocking injunction".
    Google, which has repeatedly voiced opposition to the plans to block websites, said the bill had "escaped proper scrutiny".

    "We absolutely believe in the importance of copyright, but blocking through injunction creates a high risk that legal content gets mistakenly blocked, or that people abuse the system," a spokesman added.

    'Not victimless'
    The next Parliament will be able to study the most contentious aspects of the bill before they are enacted and there will be an extended period of public consultation.
    Culture Secretary Ben Bradshaw said the legislation struck the right balance between giving creative artists more protection and giving consumers a "fair deal".
    "Hundreds of millions of pounds every year is currently haemorrhaging from our creative industries because of unlawful file-sharing.

    "This is not a harmless or victimless activity. It deprives our musicians, writers and film makers and other artists of their livelihoods and if we don't do something about it, it will pose a serious threat to our creative sectors and Britain's in them."
    The Conservatives said the bill, as it stood, was an "Amstrad" when "we wanted an IPod".

    For the Lib Dems, Don Foster said it was a "disgrace" that a bill of such complexity was being given so little time for debate.

    Jim Killock of the Open Rights Group said the legislation was an "an attack on everyone's right to communicate, work and gain an education".
    The phone and broadband company Talk Talk said the revised bill was "in much better shape" but still contained "many draconian proposals".

    The Pirate Party UK - which campaigns for the legalisation of non-commercial file sharing - said the passage of the bill marked "a sombre day for Britain's digital future".
    However, UK Music chief executive Feargal Sharkey - former lead singer with the Undertones - said action was needed to stop pirates.

    He told BBC Breakfast: "People are taking someone else's talent, time, effort and ability and not paying for it, and doing it without their permission.
    "And quite clearly that's just wrong, and we need to try and do something to stop it."

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    this is all about the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that the seppos are trying to get passed into law in many countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot
    He told BBC Breakfast: "People are taking someone else's talent, time, effort and ability and not paying for it, and doing it without their permission.
    Quite right, nothing to do with 'file sharing' everything to do with theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot
    He told BBC Breakfast: "People are taking someone else's talent, time, effort and ability and not paying for it, and doing it without their permission.
    Quite right, nothing to do with 'file sharing' everything to do with theft.
    Its to do with how this bill was rushed through without proper scrutiny, the ridiculous idea of blocking websites that host pirated copyrighted material and the ability to enforce draconian measures on people who use the internet in the UK.

    Theres all this talk of a digital Britain but they havent got a clue about what it means

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    Just park outside your local mps house, get on his wifi and download some beastiality stuff, then inform his isp about what a disgusting pervert he is.

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    Heres an example of what happened with me the other day

    Ive been looking for an EP by a guy recording under the monicker of Jodey Kendrick, first place I looked was torrents, found one (rare) and tried to DL it with crap results so I searched again. I found that the label he was on (Rephlex) had recently started a store with the release in there, cost was £2.99, yep £2.99 so I quite happily downloaded it in mp3 and wav (close to 800mb to DL) and felt happy I was getting a good copy and supporting the artist at the same time.

    If someone were to take a look at my traffic stats they could quite easily think Im downloading illegally and I could be cut off without a fair trial.

    In theory they could block sites like Google and other search engines as they are providing access to pirated copyrighted content by indexing torrent sites.

    This bill was rushed through in the wash up phase of parliament in 2 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Just park outside your local mps house, get on his wifi and download some beastiality stuff, then inform his isp about what a disgusting pervert he is.
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    O2 slams 'red herring' Digital Economy Act | News | TechRadar UK
    Criticisms for the controversial Digital Economy Act are still piling in, with O2 accusing the newly created law of being a 'red herring'.

    In an strongly-worded open letter, O2's head of Home and Broadband Felix Geyr slammed the new legal requirements for internet service providers to send warning letters, telling the music and film industries to 'wake up and smell the coffee'.
    "O2 supports the important principle of protecting copyright but we believe the new legal requirements for internet service providers to send warning letters – and if they don't work take more serious action, including disconnecting customers – are a red herring," said Geyr's letter.

    Profound changes
    "The internet has brought about profound changes to the way we all live and work. New companies and industries have been created, and many long established companies have embraced the internet and are thriving in the new digital age.
    "Others have found out the hard way what happens when you fail to move with the time," it continues.

    "It may sound harsh but that's life in a market economy and that's what happens when a technology revolution takes place.

    "Some people vainly try to prop up the old system – like the luddites who smashed up the mechanical looms during the industrial revolution – while others recognise that change is inevitable and adapt to a new model.

    "The real solution to unlawful file sharing is not to send threatening letters or to cut people off from the internet. It is to come up with new products and services that give consumers the content they want, how they want it, and for a fair price.
    "So our message to the music company and film industry lobbyists who have been campaigning so hard for this change in the law is simple: you've got what you wanted. Now wake up, smell the coffee, and start really focusing on giving customers what they want. "
    The last part in yellow mirrors exactly what happened with me in post no.6

    Theres a lot of artists who recognise that they can provide their content to buyers at an affordable price and are beginning to do so. The days of record company execs making money hand over fist from someone elses work are quite rightly numbered unless they realise how people want content and what a fair price is for the customer and artist.

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