Thread: Clampdown on pirate programs in Phuket

^ Yep. 'BSA' is behnd it here. They advertise 'up to 250,000 baht reward for snitching on someone'.

With such rewards, no wonder it's a success in Thailand

like shooting fish in a barrel,

Originally Posted by peterpan

Thai employees will fvck a non Thai employer every chance they get, makes them feel bigger I guess.

Not only, I know of a Thai employer who grassed up for using copy Auto Cad, that was in Bangkok

what about all the intenet cafe's?

Originally Posted by FarangRed

what about all the intenet cafe's?

They pay the police monthly for their software license and the police pass the money onto Bill Gates in person.

good one, slack. Ubuntu for desktop is quite nice, even though it's slower than WinXP. Sadly.

I went into the university I work at today in Korat and everything has changed to Linux/Ubuntu, looks like it's going down in a lot of places.

Hypocrits, my gf bought home her bosses laptop the other day and besides having loads of images of horses doing rude things to women on the hard drive, also had a pirated copy of widows on it. The owner is the head of the Dept of Labour in XXXXXX province.

^ good one !!! LOL

Seriously, I can't understand why anyone with a small business in Thailand would even risk it.

Download any of the*ubuntu variants and they will do the job.

And it's not just the OS, it's ALL of the free applications that you can download just by selecting them from a list.

Our company (3,000 computers) spends a fortune on Micro$oft, and I'm not complaining because it keeps me in a job when it doesn't work, but we could probably ditch $4million a year we give to Microsoft for what most people here do on computers (send emails, surf the net, use web applications).

If you don't know Linux, you can just as easily look up a Linux problem on the net as a Windows one, and to be honest you'll probably find a more help response.

Go to Distrowatch.com, follow the simple instructions to download and burn a copy of Ubuntu and then boot it on your 'puter. Unless you specifically choose to install it, you can have a good old play and see what you think. If you don't like it, take it out, throw the disk away and carry using that pirate XP until the feds walk in to your office wearing a strap on

Originally Posted by Butterfly

good one, slack. Ubuntu for desktop is quite nice, even though it's slower than WinXP. Sadly.

Actually I am getting more and more disillusioned with the *buntus; the one box that couldn't see its nic is now running Slackware and now sees the nic fine and the KDE that ships with Slackware 13 seems to be a lot smoother than the Kubuntu one and also doesn't have so much crap in the menus. Fonts seem to render better on the Slackware box too.

I still haven't been able to figure out which Udev rule to change to get the Kubuntu machine to use a scanner with a regular user but the Slackware machine was a lot easier to configure, it pretty much worked on install.

I'll give it a couple more days but if I still can't get the scanners working on the buntus then all the boxes are going to be Slackware-ized.

I don't know if it is because I am old or old-fashioned but I find Slackware to be much, much easier to maintain.

I tried 2 versions of Linux on my laptop (Ubuntu and another one) and neither worked.

Most of the software on the computers in the Bangkok/Asia-Pacific headquarters of one of the world's largest organizations is pirate. Lucky the Thai police aren't allowed in there unless invited.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I tried 2 versions of Linux on my laptop (Ubuntu and another one) and neither worked.

Want to elaborate on "neither worked"?

You couldn't boot them?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Want to elaborate on "neither worked"?

Normally it's a euphemism for "I couldn't be bothered to use google to search for a solution to my issue or learn how to ask a question".

I'm not saying that is the case for MtD - he may have some exotic hardware issue or rely on applications that have no Linux equivalent.

That said, the issues I had this week getting a Brother DCP-165C multifunction to scan when connected to a Kubuntu 9.10 box have been a bit of a hassle, I can imagine it would have been a pretty daunting task for a Linux newbie (although I am a newbie when it comes to using *buntus).

I found it a lot easier and more logical to set up network scanning to the Slackware box.

From my humble perspective I am still not convinced that the *buntus are all they are cracked up to be, especially if I am going to have to support them! I am still giving serious consideration to putting Slackware onto the other two machines.

My rationale for using *buntus was that the users have never even heard of Linux before and I thought it would be better for them when they are plugging in music players and stuff but looking back it would have been a better choice to use Slackware and take the few extra minutes required to ensure all the device permissions/user groups etc were correct.

Originally Posted by slackula

Actually I am getting more and more disillusioned with the *buntus; the one box that couldn't see its nic is now running Slackware and now sees the nic fine and the KDE that ships with Slackware 13 seems to be a lot smoother than the Kubuntu one and also doesn't have so much crap in the menus. Fonts seem to render better on the Slackware box too.

I still haven't been able to figure out which Udev rule to change to get the Kubuntu machine to use a scanner with a regular user but the Slackware machine was a lot easier to configure, it pretty much worked on install.

yep, I see what you mean. Slack is very reliable. Best for servers also. Always laughing to those installing RedHat for servers. Fucking clueless clowns.

Originally Posted by slackula

From my humble perspective I am still not convinced that the *buntus are all they are cracked up to be,

There has been a lot of progress in the last few years, really impressed with their new GNOME desktop. Simple, elegant, easy. Slack is too sophisticated for most users. I would recommend going for Ubuntu, at least for the support if they need to ask questions later and you are not there to answer them.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

There has been a lot of progress in the last few years, really impressed with their new GNOME desktop. Simple, elegant, easy. Slack is too sophisticated for most users. I would recommend going for Ubuntu, at least for the support if they need to ask questions later and you are not there to answer them.

I hear what you are saying, and I also liked Gnome, in fact I was disappointed when Pat V. dropped it from Slackware but I understood his reasoning.

From a basic support point of view I think it is going to be easier to help them out in a KDE environment since we have an accountant who has been using it for a few months in another office nearby to the school and she has worked out how to do most stuff so they can call her, bear in mind that the full-time users of these boxes do not speak English much and have never seen anything except windows xp.

It is a bit of a mess at the moment to be honest (entirely my fault!) - I have the following now:
Machine A (used by sales girl) Kubuntu 9.10, also print and scanner server with direct USB connection to multifunction Brother printer shared over LAN
Machine B (used by office manager) Slackware 13, KDE
Machine C (used by everybody else) Ubuntu 9.10, Gnome

(all machines have a single user account except the Slack one obviously which has traditional root as well)

After a couple more hours of fiddling today everybody can print, scan and do email stuff etc but I am still not really comfortable with the *buntu way of using sudo and not having a root, it is only a matter of time until somebody works out that the sudo password is the same as the user one and starts installing & updating stuff I don't want them to and breaks something. I know I can fix the root issue but it just seems like another hassle I don't need. The biggest problems we had on this LAN before the crackdown was teachers coming in and using thumbdrives or IE and disabling the anti virus software I had put on the comps before

Also, it is a pain having to create sim links to get the Slack filesystem and Ubuntu filesystems to work the same way to find files when the *buntu package manager puts things into places that the Slackware one doesn't.

After today's efforts I am leaning even more to putting Slackware onto everything, at least that way they will only be able to wreck their /home partitions and the rest of the system will be resilient as long as I don't tell them the root password.

Apt(itude?) is a cool tool imho but for me that is about the only reason I can see for using a Debian derived distro and I can live without it as I have no problem managing dependencies manually.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You couldn't boot them?

The installs failed if I remember correctly due an issue with the RAM chip.

I didn't realize that Ubuntu had only one user, and root was disabled

doing shit through sudo is very annoying, but again the top priority is to be idiot proof

Originally Posted by slackula

It is a bit of a mess at the moment to be honest (entirely my fault!) - I have the following now:
Machine A (used by sales girl) Kubuntu 9.10, also print and scanner server with direct USB connection to multifunction Brother printer shared over LAN
Machine B (used by office manager) Slackware 13, KDE
Machine C (used by everybody else) Ubuntu 9.10, Gnome

You should consider Ubuntu Netbook Remix, it's an Appliance version of Ubuntu with a locked desktop, so no fucking around possible. I am testing it right now. A bit tricky though to customize the default menus. But could be very useful.

It's really hard to move away from Slack, since it's probably the most flexible of them all.