Vista: The MacOS X Clone

[Butterfly]

got to try Vista, and the silly folks at MS for some strange reasons thought it would be cute to copy the MacOS X Interface and that horrible and unusable NeXT Finder that Steve Jobs had successfully conned Apple with.

Yes, the VISTA user interface is nothing more than the worthless MacOS Interface, completely unsusable. Actually it's worse, making the whole experience completely pointless and making ironically MacOS X a much better alternative.

Is there a way to switch Vista into a XP look alike, that is the best UI ever ?

Want to throw away the fucking laptop out of the window

[melvbot]

Yes, the VISTA user interface is nothing more than the worthless MacOS Interface, completely unsusable. Actually it's worse, making the whole experience completely pointless and making ironically MacOS X a much better alternative.

Quoted for posterity.

Ive used my dads laptop with Vista basic, after I turned off all the horrible nags/UAC bullshit it turned it into an altogether much better experience, for him. For me it was still as useless, hidden toolbars and the usual hangs.
Wait until Windows X, oops Im mean Windows 7 comes out, you'll love it Butters.

Microsoft will struggle to better XP as it still is the best product theyve ever made.

[Bigleg]

I'm using Windows 7 both in it's 32 and 64bitversions, it is in a word, outstanding. Wait for 7 to come available to all, you won't be disapointed

[melvbot]

I'm using Windows 7 both in it's 32 and 64bitversions, it is in a word, outstanding. Wait for 7 to come available to all, you won't be disapointed

No, I dont think anyone will be disappointed as theyre including a Windows XP mode. Unbelievable that a company can release a "brand new" OS yet still feel the need to include a copy of the OS from 2 versions before, half the time Microsoft just dont understand what their users want or are scared to admit they cant better XP.

[Butterfly]

Microsoft will struggle to better XP as it still is the best product theyve ever made.

agree, and that one could last another decade before the mass decide to switch, as they did with Win 3.11

Wait for 7 to come available to all, you won't be disapointed

only if you are a silly 15yr old with too much free time on hand

[Bigleg]

only if you are a silly 15yr old with too much free time on hand

Care to explain? It feels as fast as XP, while having the best parts and more of vista, it's XP and before compatible, has a fantastic home networking features that can also be implemented into businesses, it looks good and so far for me has been bug free.

[Butterfly]

^ yes tell us which best parts of VISTA it has ? pretty icons ?

VISTA feels like running Win95 again

[Bigleg]

Sorry I'm talking about Win7, far superior to XP and Vista, Vista had some nice features but more terrible ones, being a system hog was probably it's worse point. Win7 has addressed this and runs extremely well on older PC's.

OK, one for you, 'Start button' search, very nice feature of vista, so good that they even made it available as a DL to XP users, 7 takes it and improves it.

[Butterfly]

I really don't see how it's going to improve when they have that horrible MacOS X interface,

what is it that Win7 will bring that XP doesn't have already ? more disk swapping ?

[Butterfly]

OK, one for you, 'Start button' search, very nice feature of vista, so good that they even made it available as a DL to XP users, 7 takes it and improves it.

and that would justify a full upgrade ? please !!!!

[Bigleg]

If your interested, click here...

top windows 7 features - Google Search

[Bigleg]

I really don't see how it's going to improve when they have that horrible MacOS X interface,

what is it that Win7 will bring that XP doesn't have already ? more disk swapping ?

What planet are you from, don't you know we have HDD's these days

[bsnub]

I really don't see how it's going to improve when they have that horrible MacOS X interface,

what is it that Win7 will bring that XP doesn't have already ? more disk swapping ?

What planet are you from, don't you know we have HDD's these days

LMFOA!!! It is all win7 anything less is for the monkeys.

[slackula]

got to try Vista

So you've been railing against OS X all this time without even seeing what MS is punting until now?

Actually it's worse, making the whole experience completely pointless and making ironically MacOS X a much better alternative.

Yeah, we all knew that already Captain Obvious, anyway..

Is there a way to switch Vista into a XP look alike, that is the best UI ever

I have far more information and funtionality at my fingertips on OS X or Fluxbox with GkRellM in the slit than XP could ever hope to provide. And yes there is, Google is your friend here.

Want to throw away the fucking laptop out of the window

Please do, maybe that way you'll stop calling everybody that uses anything but XP a retard or gay. XP was a decent enough product for everyday use and playing Solitaire once it matured, Vista was a new version of Windows ME and Win 7 *might* help MS to recover lost market share, but I doubt it.

People who have switched to another platform after suffering Vista are unlikely to switch back, especially with the pricing structure of 7. Windows Server isn't too bad but for the price Linux spanks it into the ground, hands down.

Unbelievable that a company can release a "brand new" OS yet still feel the need to include a copy of the OS from 2 versions before

Not unbelievable with an idiot like Ballmer at the helm, but legacy support is a smart move imho, another thing they have learned from Apple.

half the time Microsoft just dont understand what their users want or are scared to admit they cant better XP.

And the other half they just market the hell out of something that is patently crap, bug-riddled and unsecure because they can (FrontPage anybody?). They are a pox on the world of computers.

[Butterfly]

don't you know we have HDD's these days

are you real or simply retarded ?

top windows 7 features - Google Search

so a few cosmetic changes and more pretty icons is justification for a full upgrade ? you do realize that some users actually use their computers for doing useful things like work. MS devotees are looking more and more like the silly Mactards, same stupid interface must have an effect on their little brain.

[Bigleg]

^ Go educate yourself...

Benchmarks: Windows 7 RTM versus Vista, XP | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com

Windows deathmatch: Windows 7 vs Vista vs XP | News | TechRadar UK

At first it seemed like our file transfer benchmarks would deliver the same results. Vista produced poor copy speeds in our small file tests, XP again placed second and Windows 7 came out on top. But when we tried transferring larger 1GB files, Vista surprisingly just managed to win out over XP. Both were beaten by the speedy Windows 7, though.
This proved true for our application tests as well. Open a small Excel spreadsheet or PDF file, say, and XP beats Vista, but heavy-duty spreadsheets and PDF files opened faster under Vista than XP. Once again, however, both were trounced by the newcomer.
You might have spotted the theme here. Windows 7 delivered excellent results, beating or coming close to the performance of the lightweight XP in just about every category. It's quite remarkable given that this is an operating system still in beta. When all the drivers are fully finished, we should see even better performance

[Butterfly]

So you've been railing against OS X all this time without even seeing what MS is punting until now?

what are you talking about ? WinNT4, Win2000, WinXP are far more superior than anything Apple ever produced, I am just noting that VISTA is far worse than MacOS X

I have far more information and funtionality at my fingertips on OS X or Fluxbox with GkRellM in the slit than XP could ever hope to provide. And yes there is, Google is your friend here.

I find this hard to believe, and I am a 20yr gay Mac veteran, you obviously never used XP for anything more than using Windows Explorer

Please do, maybe that way you'll stop calling everybody that uses anything but XP a retard or gay. XP was a decent enough product for everyday use and playing Solitaire once it matured,

Again speaking out of ignorance, most XP users don't play games all day like Mac users usually do but you wouldn't know as you can't do anything serious on MacOS X

but legacy support is a smart move imho, another thing they have learned from Apple.

legacy support has never been Apple moto, au contraire, they have been forcing us to abandon multiple platforms before therefore breaking all kind of compatibility. It's possible to run DOS application in the world of Windows, applications from the 80s. Try to run anything from System 6 or even System 7 these days on a MacOS X (pre-Intel), and it won't run. Between the Processor switch, system switch, and now MacOS X switch, Apple has broken every rules when it come to compatibility. You are showing your true delusional nature when it comes to speak about Apple products, in typical Mactard way.

[Butterfly]

^ Go educate yourself...

At first it seemed like our file transfer benchmarks would deliver the same results. Vista produced poor copy speeds in our small file tests, XP again placed second and Windows 7 came out on top. But when we tried transferring larger 1GB files, Vista surprisingly just managed to win out over XP. Both were beaten by the speedy Windows 7, though.
This proved true for our application tests as well. Open a small Excel spreadsheet or PDF file, say, and XP beats Vista, but heavy-duty spreadsheets and PDF files opened faster under Vista than XP. Once again, however, both were trounced by the newcomer.
You might have spotted the theme here. Windows 7 delivered excellent results, beating or coming close to the performance of the lightweight XP in just about every category. It's quite remarkable given that this is an operating system still in beta. When all the drivers are fully finished, we should see even better performance

yes, as I said cosmetic changes, thanks for playing

Welcome to the superficial world of Mac users

[bsnub]

So you've been railing against OS X all this time without even seeing what MS is punting until now?

what are you talking about ? WinNT4, Win2000, WinXP are far more superior than anything Apple ever produced, I am just noting that VISTA is far worse than MacOS X

I have far more information and funtionality at my fingertips on OS X or Fluxbox with GkRellM in the slit than XP could ever hope to provide. And yes there is, Google is your friend here.

I find this hard to believe, and I am a 20yr gay Mac veteran, you obviously never used XP for anything more than using Windows Explorer

Please do, maybe that way you'll stop calling everybody that uses anything but XP a retard or gay. XP was a decent enough product for everyday use and playing Solitaire once it matured,

Again speaking out of ignorance, most XP users don't play games all day like Mac users usually do but you wouldn't know as you can't do anything serious on MacOS X

but legacy support is a smart move imho, another thing they have learned from Apple.

legacy support has never been Apple moto, au contraire, they have been forcing us to abandon multiple platforms before therefore breaking all kind of compatibility. It's possible to run DOS application in the world of Windows, applications from the 80s. Try to run anything from System 6 or even System 7 these days on a MacOS X (pre-Intel), and it won't run. Between the Processor switch, system switch, and now MacOS X switch, Apple has broken every rules when it come to compatibility. You are showing your true delusional nature when it comes to speak about Apple products, in typical Mactard way.

Dud you are a complete buffon. You have no concept of reality. HHAAHHHAHAHA

[Bigleg]

I'm no longer going to...

[Butterfly]

^^ Mac user ?

^ typical Mactard response when can't find a credible answer

[slackula]

Again speaking out of ignorance, most XP users don't play games all day like Mac users usually do but you wouldn't know as you can't do anything serious on MacOS X

An interesting statement considering that one of XP's strongest points amongst the anti-OS X crowd is its gaming ability, but I digress..

I think the majority of XP users are office workers in a usual day to day environment. One of the biggest problems with Vista for IT managers supporting them was the hardware requirements, why does the girl in accounting need a machine with a 3D graphics card to run Excel? MS bullshiat.

How many concurrent users can you have logged in to your version of XP and how do you manage their permissions and hardware access? How is SSH support? How often do you have to re-install due to bit-rot? XP is a Fisher-Price operating system on a Fisher-Price file system for lazy admins and fanbois and script-kiddies. It's OK for a glorified electronic typewriter but not for anything serious.

legacy support has never been Apple moto

Obviously you have not heard of Universal Binaries or Rosetta. OS X was not an incremental upgrade to OS 9, it was a migration to Intel chips, but was compiled to run on Intel and PowerPC platforms. XP was an incremental upgrade to make a consumer version of NT. Remember the howls when Vista was first released? There is a reason that many, many companies have not "upgraded" to Vista yet: it's shite, as you have just discovered.

Now that MS is frantically building compatibility for a ~9 year old OS into their latest and greatest is proof enough that they know they are going to have to do something dramatic soon. Pricing for Win 7 is a joke, they have dropped the ball on netbooks, Zune is crap, Win CE and Mobile are under attack from all sides with Android and iPhones, Palm, Symbian etc. MS is in trouble and they know it, take a look at Apple's market share gains in June 2009 and the amount of webservers using Linux nowadays.


Anyway, I see that you have been comprehensively pwned (as usual) by other, more knowledgeable and mature members in this thread. You really need to give it up, get out of mom's basement and take a look around at what the real world is doing. Hint: it's not XP..

[Butterfly]

How often do you have to re-install due to bit-rot? XP is a Fisher-Price operating system on a Fisher-Price file system for lazy admins and fanbois and script-kiddies. It's OK for a glorified electronic typewriter but not for anything serious.

non-sense and further proof you have never used XP or a computer for anything serious or solid. Toying with 3D software is not doing things useful,

Obviously you have not heard of Universal Binaries or Rosetta. OS X was not an incremental upgrade to OS 9, it was a migration to Intel chips, but was compiled to run on Intel and PowerPC platforms. XP was an incremental upgrade to make a consumer version of NT. Remember the howls when Vista was first released? There is a reason that many, many companies have not "upgraded" to Vista yet: it's shite, as you have just discovered.

Can you run a System 7 app (FAT or PPC) on MacOS X Intel ? no you can't, how is it compatible ?

Again VISTA is an exception and you are jumping on an exception to make a case, you have no clue, like most Mactards. VISTA is at par with Apple philosophy of doing things, which is shit.

Now that MS is frantically building compatibility for a ~9 year old OS into their latest and greatest is proof enough that they know they are going to have to do something

again citing an exception to make your case, you are on thin ice

Anyway, I see that you have been comprehensively pwned (as usual) by other, more knowledgeable and mature members in this thread.

link ?

[DaffyDuck]

I'm no longer going to...

I'm glad you figured out that Butterfly is nothing but a boring troll. The ignore feature is your friend.

Unbelievable that a company can release a "brand new" OS yet still feel the need to include a copy of the OS from 2 versions before, half the time Microsoft just dont understand what their users want or are scared to admit they cant better XP.

Steve Ballmer at his very best -- isn't that the greatest? As long as that moron is in charge of Microsoft, Apple will continue to gain marketshare.

legacy support has never been Apple moto

Obviously you have not heard of Universal Binaries or Rosetta. OS X was not an incremental upgrade to OS 9, it was a migration to Intel chips,

Don't waste your time -- Butterfly's not only a troll, he's an ignorant and ill-informed troll..

[mrsquirrel]

Don't waste your time -- Butterfly's not only a troll, he's an ignorant and ill-informed troll..

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