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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I have run a cheap Huawei chinese modem for 4 years - no issue

    ok - what we are going to do for now is remove the ethernet cable from the WAN port of the dlink

    then you need to access the web GUI config of the dlink and change its LAN address to 192.168.1.250 and turn off DHCP server and save - then connect the modem LAN to the dlink LAN
    ( I am assuming the modem LAN address is 192.168.1.1 )

    ok - confirm that works and you get back on the net and we will go from there.

    if it does not just plug the computer LAN straight to the modem LAN and come back to tell us its fcuked
    Like I say, I have a basic connection - Iggy Pop - The Old Grey Whistle Test - You Tube - I Wanna Be Your Dog - I don't want to spoil it, if you can help make it quicker, then hat's off, if not...

    you really have to address this as if you were talking to a four year old! (I am not stupid, only haven't used this stuff before, so please be partient)
    I really would appreciate it if you could send me a PM as it would help me save face/Kreng Jai, as I am sure to be embarresed by my total stupidity with this!
    Otherwise, I will nod my head smile and lie pretending I understood everything and secretley have a non fuctioning modem that I would (for the lack of face) be too shy to discuss!

    Not being a Kreng Jai Twat- What is GUI??? Something interface? and, beforef going down the path of no return (not that I don't trust you) is there any way I can backup my latest settings ..you know, just in case you destroy my router! or hack into it and fire off a few nuclear warheads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    I really would appreciate it if you could send me a PM as it would help me save face/Kreng Jai
    but , this can help some one else without having to explain it all again - much better - forget the face bullshit , we all had to learn the basics at the start




    just a little dribble to explain somme things

    your dlink is a modem + router/switch/wireless access point.

    the wireless access point and the switch ( 4 LAN ports ) are bridged together and can be routed to the WAN port .

    the chinese billion unit ( we will need an exact manuf and model for later to get it working the way you really want it ) is a modem + router.

    so as you had it before - the telephone connection is controlled by the modem part of the billion unit and then routing is done between that side and the LAN port side . the LAN port side operates a DHCP server ( hands out IP addresses , subnet info and gateway info in the specified range ) to any computer that askes on the LAN side. it also does NAT ( network address translation ) for packets/requests form the LAN side ( your computers ) - but to open a port on the outside ( the telephone line side ) to listen and to pass anythng that arrives at that port to a computer and port on the inside you need to set the forwarding.

    the same as above happens on your dlink also between the WAN port and the LAN/wifi bridge/switch.

    so you would have had to port forward twice to enable the packets arriveing at the port on the telephone line side were forwarded to the port on the computer you wanted them at.

    now as we are not using the WAN on the dlink , only using the LAN/wifi side you will only have to forward across the modem.
    though using UPnP ( it is an option in most torrent clients ) the computer on the LAN can tell the modem to automatically open/listen/forward.
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    ok - I just read your post - I will start again slowly

    give me a little time to type


    from your computer that is connected to the LAN port of the dlink you should be able to open up a web browser ( internet explorer is probably best ) and type in http://192.168.1.1 and should get a username / password screen - this is the web GUI config for your dlink

    confirm you are able to access the dlink config

    now what we want to do is to change the LAN address of the dlink so it will not conflict with the LAN address of the modem - they are both probably 192.168.1.1 - so I suggest you change the dlink to 192.168.1.250

    and you need to turn off the DHCP server running on the Dlink as the modem will be running a DHCP server also and you should not have 2 running ont he same network.

    after you have changed the Dlink LAn address to 192.168.1.250 , you will have to put that address in the browser to get back to the config pages
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    I really would appreciate it if you could send me a PM as it would help me save face/Kreng Jai
    but , this can help some one else without having to explain it all again - much better - forget the face bullshit , we all had to learn the basics at the start




    just a little dribble to explain somme things

    your dlink is a modem + router/switch/wireless access point.

    the wireless access point and the switch ( 4 LAN ports ) are bridged together and can be routed to the WAN port .

    the chinese billion unit ( we will need an exact manuf and model for later to get it working the way you really want it ) is a modem + router.

    so as you had it before - the telephone connection is controlled by the modem part of the billion unit and then routing is done between that side and the LAN port side . the LAN port side operates a DHCP server ( hands out IP addresses , subnet info and gateway info in the specified range ) to any computer that askes on the LAN side. it also does NAT ( network address translation ) for packets/requests form the LAN side ( your computers ) - but to open a port on the outside ( the telephone line side ) to listen and to pass anythng that arrives at that port to a computer and port on the inside you need to set the forwarding.

    the same as above happens on your dlink also between the WAN port and the LAN/wifi bridge/switch.

    so you would have had to port forward twice to enable the packets arriveing at the port on the telephone line side were forwarded to the port on the computer you wanted them at.

    now as we are not using the WAN on the dlink , only using the LAN/wifi side you will only have to forward across the modem.
    though using UPnP ( it is an option in most torrent clients ) the computer on the LAN can tell the modem to automatically open/listen/forward.
    You know, I thought I was really clever just getting the bastard to work!
    Then along comes Baldrick!

    I need some help, but honestly, not tonight, if I touch anything tonight it will break!

    Can I talk to you tomorrow? or can you send me a PM? and, do you think it will significantly speed things up or not (not doubting your ability, only that of TOT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ok - I just read your post - I will start again slowly

    give me a little time to type


    from your computer that is connected to the LAN port of the dlink you should be able to open up a web browser ( internet explorer is probably best ) and type in http://192.168.1.1 and should get a username / password screen - this is the web GUI config for your dlink

    confirm you are able to access the dlink config
    Yes, Mr. Dipshit can do this!
    go on! Mr. Dipshit went into the advanced settings and typed in the port for BIT Torrent, 13950 or whatever, it came back with some shit about a subnet address, then I discovered I needed to enter my own computers address, 199....and the rest.

    Basically I entered Bit torrent as the program, my PC address, the IP in the other slot, and it still refuses to accept the port as open!

    Please be gentle, I am a virgin

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    ok tomorrow it is

    the best way to get it set up is to set the modem up as a pure bridge and then use your dlink to control the ADSL PPPoE connection via its WAN port

    this is all very easy really , just need to do things in the right order
    but when you have physical access to the devices it is not a big issue - only when you are thousands of kilometers fromm the devices and you make a sequence mistake taht locks you out that it becomes painful - but you will not have this problem

    will sort it out with you tomorrow - just get the make and model of the modem so we can google the usernames and passwords required to config it how you need it


    set bittorrent up after you have your network sorted - tomorrow

    ok - need to take mar sarm car for a hop, sniff and piss - later
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ok tomorrow it is

    the best way to get it set up is to set the modem up as a pure bridge and then use your dlink to control the ADSL PPPoE connection via its WAN port

    this is all very easy really , just need to do things in the right order
    but when you have physical access to the devices it is not a big issue - only when you are thousands of kilometers fromm the devices and you make a sequence mistake taht locks you out that it becomes painful - but you will not have this problem

    will sort it out with you tomorrow - just get the make and model of the modem so we can google the usernames and passwords required to config it how you need it


    set bittorrent up after you have your network sorted - tomorrow
    I really appreciate your help, it's just not feasible for me to go fucking around with anything after a few beers, it will only end in disaster, besides, I managed to get "Mommy loves Monster Cocks" streaming tonight, so...is it monster cocks and mommy or a headache with a router!

    Thanks Baldrick! I mean it, hope we can talk tomorrow...but now.. it's back to "Monster Cocks" It makes me feel a bit innadequate!

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    let me know when you are up and about.

    the way you want it set up physically in the end is the way you originally set it up - but to make it work efficiently configurations need to be changed first

    the first step is probably to get comfortable and familiar with the configuration of you dlink using a web browser - use internet explorer to do this as it is likely to work correctly with the config interface.

    on the computer plugged into the LAN port , open up a internet explorer window and type in http://192.168.0.1 - ( it may be 192.168.1.1 ) - and you should be confronted with a login page asking for user / pass , try admin / admin as that is a normal default.

    it then should take you to a overview page to enable you to configure your router - have a poke around , as long as you do not save ( there will be a save button on each page ) you will not change anything , so just have a look and get yourself familiar where some things are.




    also get hold of the piece of paper from TOT or whoever your ISP is which has your username and password - maybe you might want to put it in a text file and send it to your gmail account so you can then allow the dog to eat the paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    let me know when you are up and about.

    the way you want it set up physically in the end is the way you originally set it up - but to make it work efficiently configurations need to be changed first

    the first step is probably to get comfortable and familiar with the configuration of you dlink using a web browser - use internet explorer to do this as it is likely to work correctly with the config interface.

    on the computer plugged into the LAN port , open up a internet explorer window and type in http://192.168.0.1 - ( it may be 192.168.1.1 ) - and you should be confronted with a login page asking for user / pass , try admin / admin as that is a normal default.

    it then should take you to a overview page to enable you to configure your router - have a poke around , as long as you do not save ( there will be a save button on each page ) you will not change anything , so just have a look and get yourself familiar where some things are.




    also get hold of the piece of paper from TOT or whoever your ISP is which has your username and password - maybe you might want to put it in a text file and send it to your gmail account so you can then allow the dog to eat the paper.

    Morning!
    Ok, thanks for the help - the router and modem are on separate IP,s the router is on 192.168.0.1 and the modem is on 192.168.1.1, so that's a start I guess!
    Lead me onward.....

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    ok - the modem LAN port is 192.168.1.1 and it will be running a DHCP server handing out 192.168.1.x addresses - if you look on the status page of the dlink you will see that its WAN port has been assigned an address 192.168.1.x.

    now the dlink LAN is on 192.168.0.1 and also running a DHCP server handing out 192.168.0.x addresses - your computer LAN address will be 192.168.0.x - I am guessing the computer is on auto assign IP address.

    but because first what we want to do is put the Dlink LAN and the modem LAN together we need to give the dlink LAN a 192.168.1.x address and then turn of the dlink DHCP server ( as we will be using the modems DHCP server to auto assign any addresses )

    so locate on the dlink config page where it is assigned 192.168.0.1 for its LAN and change it to 192.168.1.250 ( I use 250 as it is way up the top of the range - top being 254 - so it is unlikely to be conflicting with anything ) , then also locate the checkbox which says enable DHCP server and un check the box , then save

    then connect the modem to the dlink LAN ( not WAN ) and you might have to disable -> enable the computer LAN ethernet adapter so it can recieve a new IP address from the modem DHCP server. even unplug and replug the LAN cable might renew.

    now you should find to access the config page of the dlink you will need to type 192.168.1.250 into the browser address bar.

    let me know how you get on with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Dynamic IP
    there be your problem
    so how do I get a static IP? complain? thats what I did with AIS and they gave me a static IP
    no doubt baldrick will get to this and other mysteries in due course .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ok - the modem LAN port is 192.168.1.1 and it will be running a DHCP server handing out 192.168.1.x addresses - if you look on the status page of the dlink you will see that its WAN port has been assigned an address 192.168.1.x.

    now the dlink LAN is on 192.168.0.1 and also running a DHCP server handing out 192.168.0.x addresses - your computer LAN address will be 192.168.0.x - I am guessing the computer is on auto assign IP address.

    but because first what we want to do is put the Dlink LAN and the modem LAN together we need to give the dlink LAN a 192.168.1.x address and then turn of the dlink DHCP server ( as we will be using the modems DHCP server to auto assign any addresses )

    so locate on the dlink config page where it is assigned 192.168.0.1 for its LAN and change it to 192.168.1.250 ( I use 250 as it is way up the top of the range - top being 254 - so it is unlikely to be conflicting with anything ) , then also locate the checkbox which says enable DHCP server and un check the box , then save

    then connect the modem to the dlink LAN ( not WAN ) and you might have to disable -> enable the computer LAN ethernet adapter so it can recieve a new IP address from the modem DHCP server. even unplug and replug the LAN cable might renew.

    now you should find to access the config page of the dlink you will need to type 192.168.1.250 into the browser address bar.

    let me know how you get on with this
    Think I know what you mean - will have a go at changing them when I get through the current download, thanks for that!

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    OK, I changed the settings to 192.168.1.250 and disabled the dhcp server, when I reboot, I cannot access anything, the web based ROM cannot be acessed at all with the new address - tried 3 or four times and every time I have to do a hard reset.

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    ok - you reboot ? what ? or do you mean save ?

    the LAN of your computer will still have its old 192.168.0.x IP that it got from the Dlink , now you want to renew it so it receives one from the modem -a 192.168.1.x address to bring it into line with the rest of the addresses - you can do this by just disabling it then enabling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ok - you reboot ? what ? or do you mean save ?

    the LAN of your computer will still have its old 192.168.0.x IP that it got from the Dlink , now you want to renew it so it receives one from the modem -a 192.168.1.x address to bring it into line with the rest of the addresses - you can do this by just disabling it then enabling it.

    See, I told you this wouldn't be easy! OK, got what you mean, will give it another go and get back to you, Thanks! (Strangely though today it's flying along, its downloading some software at over 80KB/s)

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    OK, tried again, after I rebooted the modem I disabled the network connection and re enabled it, still no joy, same problem as before.

    I then tried the windows "repair" option that tried to restore the IP address, but it was unable to that either!

    So I had to reset it again!

    Now I notice I have a second LAN connection "Microsoft TV/Video Connection" any idea what that is? Could it be something to do with a webcam or similar?

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    this is going to have to wait miggins - my phone line has gone down so I have only the mobile phone connection and am low on credit

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    this is going to have to wait miggins - my phone line has gone down so I have only the mobile phone connection and am low on credit

    No worries, I am running OK at the minute, so thanks for your help, it is interesting stuff this!

    Need to get a book or two to read up on the subject.

    Hope your lines are up and running soon!

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