Google SEO Traffic Questions

**Nietzsche** · 29-05-2009, 01:54 PM

I sell SEO for a living.

It's a scam, but if these people don't check the T's & C's that's their problem.

**dirtydog** · 29-05-2009, 02:11 PM

SEO isn't a scam, the idea is to get top placements for the search terms you want, obviously knowing what search terms people are likely to use is quite helpful aswell, ie the differences between English and American spellings will make a complete difference in search results and where you maybe.
Lets say your an American company selling red knickers and want to break into the UK market, some American keywords would be (color, panties?) aint going to get no English rose finding that website

**friscofrankie** · 29-05-2009, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

I sell SEO for a living.

It's a scam, but if these people don't check the T's & C's that's their problem.

you sell lies and fantasies masked as SEO, it is NOT SEO.
From the sounds of it your company is scamming; them hiring you as "telemarketer" kind of proves it. The industry is not a scam but many so-called SEO experts are full of shit. it's tedious and detail oriented work.
Submitting to Search engines is NOT SEO.
Gettng link exchanges is NOT SEO.
But they both make good eye-wash.

As a real SEO worker you get scammers and BS artisit filling your customers head with so much shit that when you knuckle down and explain the campaign it looks like work; it is. There ain't no magic bullet.

I'll not line out a campaign here, or even any more details. But SEO a a very real field of endeavor it is not a black art but a combination of art & science. Results can be measured to some degree and tagetnig a high-competition niche with a new domain will require much ground work and analysis immediate results are not your goal but a foundation and consistent improvement fidning unuse niche terms that can gain real benefits, you work in phases, you continually define new targets, maintaing your old ones. SEO NEVER STOPS! You get to be number one you have to work to stay there. People will be studying you for weaknesses you have to study your own weakenesses and strengthen them. SEO algorithms change you must adapt. But the core never changes. you build on that. You adapt keeping your core strong.

You put up a site hire an SEO 'service' and forget it? You are throwing money away; a good SEO man will give you work to do and a good analysis of your current site, then assign you work to do to improve it a continued amount of work to do on a regular basis.

Just becasue you know fuck all about SEO and work for a scammer do not paint every SEO service with the same brush. Good luck in your career choice.

**Nietzsche** · 30-05-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

As a real SEO worker

Where's you're website ranked for the service you offer?

Nowhere.

SEO is bollocks.

**friscofrankie** · 30-05-2009, 04:23 PM

don't have one, work on referrals & word of mouth. Don';t even have time to write content for my own site (non-SEO). don;t need to advertise. don't cold call people. I get results.My referrals come from customers, not spammy emails or some dummy making cold calls. Have SEVERAL sites with multiple pages on page one of google for selected niche terms germane to their business. These are my customers sites revealing sucesses and how these successes were acheived serves to reveal to their competition that a. they are being targeted. B. How they are being targeted. If I had time to finish my own site it wouldn't be about SEO, but would reap the benefits of it. Then I'd have to allocate way too much time to keepig it updated. I wouldn;t mind having less work right now so I could, but someone told me once never turn down honest work.

What SEO sites sell is not SEO what spam emails touting SEo sell is no SEO. Doubt I'd trust anyone with a website. SEO is daily, weekly work. Not signign up with some hustler with a website. SEO work is advising your client on content, web design, phrase placement. SEO begins when you decide to build a website. what phrases might be used to find your product? How many searches are there? Choosing he domain name, Barnding? or Keywords? Can you get both? Then coding the site. then

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

SEO is bollocks.

Wrong again duck breath. You have no knowledge on the subject. What you sell over teh phone is bollocks - Now, go make some more cold calls.

**Nietzsche** · 31-05-2009, 10:57 AM

What's with all the insults?

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

don't have one

An SEO 'expert' without a website demonstating his albility?

Convienient.

I get results

For websites selling purple chickens, or something, I don't doubt you do, but you've got nobody on the front page of Google for a single keyword, or anything useful, have you?

My referrals come from customers, not spammy emails or some dummy making cold calls

Both of them?

selected niche terms

You mean things nobody types in?

SEO begins when you decide to build a website. what phrases might be used to find your product? How many searches are there? Choosing he domain name, Barnding? or Keywords?

Is that your pitch? Adwords would tell you most of that just by typing in your product.

Sounds like you deal with old blokes without a clue how to use Google, let alone build a website.

You have no knowledge on the subject

It's hardly rocket-science. I could ask the dopey bird in the office who does the SEO what's involved if I was inclined to & within five minutes would know everything you know & more. She got us #1 for over 17,000,000 results, for an SEO term.

Can you match that?

Can you fuck.

**friscofrankie** · 31-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

For websites selling purple chicken

How did you know?

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

It's hardly rocket-science. I could ask the dopey bird in the office who does the SEO what's involved if I was inclined to & within five minutes would know everything you know & more.

But you re not inclined, are you?
You just said SEO is bollocks, now you tell us it not only works, IT'S EASY!

**Nietzsche** · 31-05-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

But you re not inclined, are you?

No.

I already know it's a load of bollocks.

You just said SEO is bollocks, now you tell us it not only works

I mean the concept is bollocks, not the maths behind it. Like I said, purple chickens or some other shite nobody ever types in - sorry, I mean selected niche term - is a piece of piss.

Getting someting people actaually type in often front-page is a myth.

IT'S EASY!

It must be.

Here's our job advert for an SEO guy.

Search Engine Optimisation Experts

The UK's leading Internet marketing company is looking for enthusiastic people to work in its search engine optimisation and adwords department.

Benefits and responsibilities

Liaising with clients by telephone and email.
Conducting research, report writing and optimising websites for search engines.
You must be IT literate and have excellent knowledge of HTML and associated disciplines.
You should have a background in Search Engine Optimisation or Pay Per Click.
Customer service skills would be advantageous.
Management opportunities are available for talented individuals.
Excellent working environment in prestigious city centre offices.
Normal office hours are Monday to Friday 9:00am to 5.30pm.

Please email your c.v

IT literate?

A child could do it!

**dirtydog** · 31-05-2009, 03:30 PM

Try these in google

lopburi tourist attractions
chumphon tourist attractions
udon thani tourist attractions

**Nietzsche** · 31-05-2009, 03:39 PM

How many times has 'lopburi tourist attractions' been typed into Google this month?

Whoever paid you for that had his pants pulled down.

Good sale!

**friscofrankie** · 31-05-2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Please email your c.v

Why the fuck would I want a job on some dreary, foggy island?

I'm doing fine. Thanks any way.

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

IT literate?

Who? ME?
Nah...

**Nietzsche** · 31-05-2009, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

Why the fuck would I want a job on some dreary, foggy island?

It was part of the cut & paste

**melvbot** · 31-05-2009, 04:47 PM

Got any recommended reading on SEO frankie?

**Nietzsche** · 31-05-2009, 04:49 PM

SEO Google

**Butterfly** · 04-06-2009, 08:16 AM

wiki also a nice page on the topic,

In summary, can't we just summarize SEO as tricks to put keywords in your meta tags, text and image links ?

**Nietzsche** · 04-06-2009, 11:11 AM

A serious question - is there such a thing as off-site SEO?

I'm selling it at the minute, but can't see how it works.

**dirtydog** · 04-06-2009, 03:45 PM

off site seo? ie not on the domain your promoting? 1 way links from high ranking page ranks works, links from similar interest sites, ie you got a forum for gay black people, links from gay sites, links from say foreign country forums etc.

**Nietzsche** · 05-06-2009, 03:37 AM

Imagine 'plumber manchester', off-site.

What's his chances?

**lom** · 05-06-2009, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Getting someting people actaually type in often front-page is a myth.

Have you told your employer?

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Here's our job advert for an SEO guy.
The UK's leading Internet marketing company is looking for enthusiastic people

It fekkin works!
Googling that phrase tells me that your employer is firstfound.co.uk

**melvbot** · 09-06-2009, 10:36 AM

I set a new site up about a week ago, submitted the URL to Google 2 days ago and Im now on the first page (position 8) for my keywords. Granted its not a massively competitive term (2,480,000 results) but the keywords Im aiming at make up the URL. Im slightly chuffed with that, first page within 2 days.

**Butterfly** · 09-06-2009, 10:45 AM

^ how did you submit your URL to google ?

I thought that was the job of the google bots

**melvbot** · 09-06-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ how did you submit your URL to google ?

I thought that was the job of the google bots

The bots will get to your site but if I google the URL and it doesnt show up after a week I do this

Submit URL Google

**dirtydog** · 09-06-2009, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Imagine 'plumber manchester', off-site.

Google it, see whose in the top 10 and what incoming links they have, tie in with other Manchester web sites and also UK plumbing supply shops.

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