Thread: thank god for linux.windows is a pile of shit

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Vexed in that you haven't made any attempt to talk about what you did.

i told you twice.

windows is still flashing on and off like a fukker.

i managed however, between the flashes to get my mouse over the shutdown menu and turn it off tidily.

windows still doesn't work, but i can at least mount the windows stuff.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

but i can at least mount the windows stuff.

How? What did you do?

you couldn't mount it before.

^

sigh.......

if windows isn't shut down properly, you can't mount it in ubuntu.
FACT.

i managed to switch windows down properly, now i can mount it.

that's it.;.....

So your ubuntu is automatically mounting it with no help from you.

Turn it on and it's there. Waiting for you?

is that correct?

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

if windows isn't shut down properly, you can't mount it in ubuntu. FACT.

Wrong.

Fact

You can force mount and NTFS partition that hasn't been shut down properly. As mentioned on page 2 of this thread.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

So your ubuntu is automatically mounting it with no help from you.

no.

i go to my places folder and click on new volume where all my media files live and it mounts.

want a screenshot?

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Wrong.

Fact

not wrong.

I can't mount if i don't switch windows down properly.

FACT.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

want a screenshot?

We are getting somewhere now.

Put some effort in

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

not wrong. I can't mount if i don't switch windows down properly. FACT.

Wrong

Rationale
I work in IT and choose ubuntu live cds to do windows data recovery from. However when a drive hasn't been cleanly shutdown on NTFS, nautilus wont open it, it just gives a message saying type this very long command 'mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdx# /some/folder/that/doesn't/exist -o force'. And you have to go and type it in the command line and create a directory. Why can't they make a button in that message box that asks your root password and does it for you? Or just say 'unclean shutdown detected. force mount? [yes] [no]'.
The average user doesn't know about journaling and log files on partitions.
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Solution #1: Ask if user want's to force mount the drive
Written by qb89dragon the 13 Feb 09 at 16:35.
Push the command automatically for the user behind the scenes.
Ask if they want to continue is a better flow than 'error. push this button to fix'.
I'm not sure if there's a better way to do that command so you can get it to mount and unmount without being root and without creating (and then remembering to delete) a folder, i.e. gnomeVFS or something.

Push the command automatically for the user behind the scenes. Ask if they want to continue is a better flow than 'error. push this button to fix'. I'm not sure if there's a better way to do that command so you can get it to mount and unmount without being root and without creating (and then remembering to delete) a folder, i.e. gnomeVFS or something.



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sf_007 wrote on the 14 Feb 09 at 06:27
The latest version of NTF-3g seems to include tools that can fix an NFTS volume:
NTFS-3G Read/Write Driver Release History
SzabolcsSzakacsits wrote on the 14 Feb 09 at 13:04
The latest version of NTFS-3G solves this issue without any user intervention.

^ as said originally

there are tools to fix it in ubuntu.

there are ways to force it to mount with out doing the correct shut down check.

I was transferring files via a USB portable drive (NTFS format). Unfortunately when I plugged it into Ubuntu it said:

"$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)

Failed to mount /dev/yadayada

Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly."

But I found an easy solution via "http://linuxevangelist.blogspot.com/2008/07/fixing-ntfs-mount-error-in-gnulinux.html"

After you follow the instructions, you just unplug the USB, and plug in back in and voila! its reads perfectly!

(This is a follow up from an archived thread which asked for feedback but unfortunately the user did not so I'm writing to say it works!)

Or you can just force the mount with the included command, which i'll repeat here:
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/portable -o force

Replace /dev/sda1 with whatever the heck you want to mount, and /media/portable with whatever the mount point is.

...............

fukking google search.........................

^ worrying search in that screenshot

^

worrying results.

give it a go.

that's only one problem solved.

shoud i do another thread about the windows problem or leave it here?

i obviously can't burn stuff mounted on my windows system via ubuntu, so what ae my options?

i would like to get everything off there, then totally dispose of windows and make my whole computer ubuntu.

sod the dual boot.

i only ever need windows for 2 hours on a saturday evening.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

shoud i do another thread about the windows problem or leave it here? i obviously can't burn stuff mounted on my windows system via ubuntu, so what ae my options?

Do you consider it to be a Windows problem that your Ubuntu burner program can't burn files from the Win partition?

Copy a movie from the Win partition into the Ubuntu partition.
Burn the movie.
Remove it from the Ubuntu partition.
Repeat for each movie.

^
it will take too long.

i have already written off that solution.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

it will take too long.

Your computer dealer can supply you with an external drive that isn't full.

Originally Posted by lom

Your computer dealer can supply you with an external drive that isn't full.

i might go this route.

ones i have aren't that great though.

hard drives stuck into some flims external casing.

get very hot, very quick.

what type would you recommend?

You can't burn movies from your win partition in Ubuntu? How is that possible? Are the movies in .avi format or compressed?

Surely if your Ubuntu setup is reading your NTFS drives then it is capable of burning the files to DVD by reading.

I never had any problems doing that with my Nix setup

I don't think you are ready for a computer yet CMN.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

You can't burn movies from your win partition in Ubuntu?

impossible to do.

i use K3B to burn.

when i click on open file, it won't allow me to open files that live in New Volume, only files that live in the ubuntu system.

tell me how i can make it work.

A brand name, Seagate or Western Digital external cabinet + disk.
I have an old Maxtor OneTouch (now Seagate) that has never failed on me.

Alternatively, go for a Network Attached Storage (NAS) cabinet without disks and buy the disks separately. Easy to upgrade into bigger disks when the need arises.

Some cabinets has a combo of USB and Ethernet.
I have a FreeCom 250 Gb of that kind which I bought during travel when the laptop disk became full.
Works well on USB but drops the Ethernet connection during copy of huge files.

Buffalo is another good brand for external cabinets or NAS.
Lacie is yet another.
Google them and see what suits you

what sort of price range?