Thread: DVD Encryption

Wonder if any of you savvy guys can help?
Recentley got a couple of DVD 9 Videos, 1 is Sony, dual layer, Hancock DVD, the other is Disney Wall E, I have been trying to "back them up" using various software, DVD Decrypter, AnyDVD etc.
I am beggining to wonder if these have new copyright protection, I can create an ISO no problem, it plays back with my PC DVD player perfectly, but if you burn this to DVD and try to play on a DVD player, the damn thing is all over the place, e.g. When I run the ISO on Power DVD, or run through it using AnyDVD or any other software it plays ok, menus etc. are all there. When I burn the ISO to DVD and try and play it on the DVD player (3 different ones) there is no menu structure, and the DVD starts half way through and plays about 4 seconds of video constantly repeating like a menu of its own.

If you jump chapters they are all in what appears to be random order, any ideas?

On older DVD's I have had no problems, only with these 2008 issues.

what software did you use for the ISO dump ? I always decrypt my ISO dump for good measure,

posted before here a nice utility that does this on the fly, making DVD decrypter obsolete

Originally Posted by Butterfly

what software did you use for the ISO dump ? I always decrypt my ISO dump for good measure,

posted before here a nice utility that does this on the fly, making DVD decrypter obsolete

Basically all I do is use DVD decrypter, in the read ISO mode to rip the DVD, if the dvd is the right size, eg. DVD5-DVD5, then I use DVD decrypter to write the dvd in reverse mode, ie read ISO burn DVD.

But each time I used it on these DVDs, it had problems, I have never had it before.

I can view the movies when I mount the ISO image (using Nero 8) and viewing them as a movie,(Power DVD) they are perfect,(using any software DVD player) I can burn the DVD's from the image, and they play perfect, on the PC. but take the same DVD and try and play it on a stand alone and it is complete garbage, the menus have gone, it plays scenes from half way through the DVD as if they were repeatable menus, the chapters are all to hell...I am at a loss!

I wouldn't use DVD decrypter to burn DVDs, try something else, the usual software like NERO etc... they can also burn ISO

What speed are you burning it at and what media are you using?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

What speed are you burning it at and what media are you using?

I'm using TDK DVD-R (16X) on a Samsung 223U or Pioneer dvr105, but neither works, maximum burn is 16X but it never gets there, maximum is 10X

If this can help, don't ask me more as I never copy DVD's:

AfterDawn.com: Guides: Copy entire DVD-9 movie to a single DVD-R using DVD Shrink

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

maximum burn is 16X but it never gets there, maximum is 10X

should always burn it at minimum speeds anyway.

Try DVD Fab, good for getting rid of reigons and copyright protection.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

If this can help, don't ask me more as I never copy DVD's:

AfterDawn.com: Guides: Copy entire DVD-9 movie to a single DVD-R using DVD Shrink

Nah, DVD shrink just makes life worse.
But cheers for the suggestions.

This might be more for AVI Xvid but you can have a look here

http://www.kibisoft.com/

How To: How to Burn Any Video File to a Playable Video DVD

Might be a silly question, but you are using a dual layer burner aren't you?

Originally Posted by melvbot

This might be more for AVI Xvid but you can have a look here

http://www.kibisoft.com/

How To: How to Burn Any Video File to a Playable Video DVD

Cheers for that but it seems to be more of a problem with DVD encryption.
Anyone here managed to burn a copy of Wall E?
Seems like Disney has tried a new encoding method.

I burnt an Xvid copy to a normal CD if thats any use.

Originally Posted by melvbot

I burnt an Xvid copy to a normal CD if thats any use.

Thanks, but all I want to do is make a copy of Wall E, DVD, my boy does not take care of them too well, and the original cost about 300 baht, but it seems it cannot be copied.

There (using AnyDVD) is quite a bit of anti piracy there, false read errors, false menus, there was quite a list, AnyDVD could find these, and block them, but couldn't rip an ISO from it, the other software can rip the ISO but cannot get rid of the anti copy shit, so not sure where to go from here.

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I had a few DVDs I couldn't copy, the trick for them was to have the "damaged" sectors take hours, if not days, for making the ISO dump

when you have thousands of read errors, then you know it's impossible to copy

I still think you should try to burn the ISO with a different software, make the dump and use NERO, might do the trick

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bob

Try DVD Fab, good for getting rid of reigons and copyright protection.

Tried DVD FAB, its just a clone of DVD de Crypter, regions are not the problem I have Region Killer already. No problem with CSS/CPPM, can get round all of those.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Might be a silly question, but you are using a dual layer burner aren't you?

Yes it can burn Dual layer, but I am converting Dual layer to 4.7GB. never a problem before, only these new Disney and Sony DVD's.

Originally Posted by baldrick

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Been there too, it appears that the DVD's may have a new encryption, when I run AnyDVD, it finds false bad sectors and a numerous ammounts of other bits and bobs put on there, it says it has bypassed them, and indeed all the software I use can play the DVD perfectly on the computer, from the original disk, from the mounted ISO, from the VOB files, but burn it ti a disc and it is a pile of shit!

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I had a few DVDs I couldn't copy, the trick for them was to have the "damaged" sectors take hours, if not days, for making the ISO dump

when you have thousands of read errors, then you know it's impossible to copy

I still think you should try to burn the ISO with a different software, make the dump and use NERO, might do the trick

The Wall E comes up with 64 read errors using DVD Decrypter, but the ISO it generates is fine, but burn it and it is complete rubbish.

If you don't disable the error checking the thing hangs for hours, it's some sort of "bad sector" encryption that is causing this, as I said, AnyDVD says it has found it, but it doesn't seem to be able to bypass it.

Strange.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

The Wall E comes up with 64 read errors using DVD Decrypter, but the ISO it generates is fine, but burn it and it is complete rubbish.

because you are burning it with the wrong software, try something different. Burning is not the same as dumping ISO, hopefully you can understand the difference

otherwise buy the original if it's only 300 THB, I wouldn't bother

64 read errors is quite reasonable, I had thousands. You need to get the right software to break all those securities and sometimes some of them don't do as advertised,

I use DVD43 to get around copyright protection, its a small program that runs in the background and fire's up automatically when you insert a copyright protected dvd...

takes about 5 seconds to do its thing then i poke em through DVD shrink (i dont have a dual layer burner)..

DVD43 v4.40 - Download Sites

Originally Posted by v8tfcorty

I use DVD43 to get around copyright protection, its a small program that runs in the background and fire's up automatically when you insert a copyright protected dvd...

That's the one I use, this is a great utility, might try a more recent version, thanks for the link

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

The Wall E comes up with 64 read errors using DVD Decrypter, but the ISO it generates is fine, but burn it and it is complete rubbish.

because you are burning it with the wrong software, try something different. Burning is not the same as dumping ISO, hopefully you can understand the difference

otherwise buy the original if it's only 300 THB, I wouldn't bother

64 read errors is quite reasonable, I had thousands. You need to get the right software to break all those securities and sometimes some of them don't do as advertised,

Thanks Butterfly, you are correct, I am not sure as to what the difference is between burning the ISO image to a DVD, and "burning". Is it important?
I have Nero 8 and loads of burning software, any suggestions how to rip the protection from the movie and then the best way to burn it back minus the RPC and copyright? It's not the cost, it just pisses me that something here is getting the better of me and would like to solve the problem.

Cheers

I burn all my movies at 4x speed and prefer to put them on a couple of VCDs rather than a DVD. As I've only got a small telly, there's no difference in picture quality and the sound volume is better on the VCDs unless I muck about with the DVD settings of course.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I burn all my movies at 4x speed and prefer to put them on a couple of VCDs rather than a DVD. As I've only got a small telly, there's no difference in picture quality and the sound volume is better on the VCDs unless I muck about with the DVD settings of course.

I know what you mean about the volume, some of these copies are terrible, you need the TV on full whack just to hear the audio, and the BUZZ becomes unbearable.
I found the DVD 9 to be a lot better, but copying them is a pain.
Tell me, I create an image on the hard drive (ISO), I then can mount the image (ooh err missus) and read it like a disk, but when I use Nero to try and copy it, it recreates an image of the image...it's a bit of a piss around for nothing!

All I really want to do is rip DVD 9, get rid of all the unnecessary shit, like Swahili subtitles, and compress it a bit to fit on a standard 4.7GB DVD -r...is life meant to be this taxing? A lot of the discs are about 5 GB anyway, not a lot of compression needed, removing some unwanted audio or subtitles should be enough, but the fuckers from Dismal Disney are taking it to a new level! Imagine paying full price for these things and you cannot make a backup..stinks!

Like I said in a previous post it is not the money, it is the fact I have bought this, and I want to back it up, and these fuckers make it so damned difficult..got to be a way around it.

Will perservere.

Tried burning to a dvd r/w, still problems, but I am re thinking dvd rebuilder, maybe, just maybe, something is coming to light!

Download the Wall E DVDr torrent and burn.

Use ImgBurn to burn images.